Zappos

company on 24 shows · 47 statements across 12 episodes · said 270 times in 88 episodes since 2012

How I Built This 124 the Knowledge Project 48 Top Founders 23 the MAD Podcast 12 20VC 10 My First Million 7 Founders 5 the a16z Podcast 5 Startup Acquisition Stories 4 the Pitch 4 the Neon Show 4 Lenny's Podcast 3 Sourcery 3 TBPN 3 In Depth 2 We Live to Build 2 BigDeal 2 the Startup Ideas Podcast 2 Acquired 2 Mixergy 1 Another Podcast 1 WTF is with Nikhil Kamath 1 All-In 1 A Product Market Fit Show 1

Mentions by year, every show

tap a year for its mentions
00308601520122014201620182020202220242026episodesmentions
081520122014201620182020202220242026episodes it came up in
0047.581520122014201620182020202220242026episodesmentions per episode

How I Built This 124the Knowledge Project 48Top Founders 23the MAD Podcast 1220VC 10My First Million 7the a16z Podcast 5Founders 516 more shows

2026 10 mentions in 7 episodes 1 per episode
2025 55 mentions in 13 episodes 4 per episode
2024 15 mentions in 9 episodes 2 per episode
2023 16 mentions in 7 episodes 2 per episode
2022 16 mentions in 10 episodes 2 per episode
2021 7 mentions in 5 episodes 1 per episode
2020 47 mentions in 9 episodes 5 per episode
2019 41 mentions in 6 episodes 7 per episode
2018 3 mentions in 3 episodes 1 per episode
2017 41 mentions in 9 episodes 5 per episode
2016 9 mentions in 7 episodes 1 per episode
2014 8 mentions in 1 episode
2013 1 mention in 1 episode
2012 1 mention in 1 episode

every mention on every show, scene by scene, with the transcript →

47 statements about Zappos, every show

THE PITCH Assertion Partly supported
Muccio: Aunt Flow landed accounts with Princeton, Google, and Zappos
“Got her tampons into places like Princeton and Penn State. And over the next few years, they also picked up accounts for state office buildings in Ohio and Iowa, and even big tech companies like Zappos and Google.”
Josh Muccio Mar 4, 2025 ▶ 23:04 #96 A Test of Time
KNOWLEDGE PROJECT Assertion Contradicted
Zappos reached $1.6 billion in sales on just $10 million in equity
“Tony invested ten million dollars of his own money, but most of it was financed through being very, very creative, figuring out how to get merchants that we ordered from to give us credit and to increase the credit line. We had a, eventually got a line of cred…”
Alfred Lin Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 45:48 How to Win by Being Right and Contrarian: Lessons from Zappos to DoorDash
Lin: Startups Can Scale by Making First Orders Profitable via Service
“Or in sales, and here's a company that basically raised ten million dollars, and it probably was undercapitalized, but it really did highlight that you can build a company by having CAC be profitable on the first order, by being focused on customer service, an…”
Alfred Lin Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 46:33 How to Win by Being Right and Contrarian: Lessons from Zappos to DoorDash
KNOWLEDGE PROJECT Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lin: Only Amazon and Zappos Solved Unbatched E-Commerce Operations
“The solution to pick back and ship in four hours was to solve a operations flow issue and not batch the operations, which I don't think anybody else figured out in e-commerce back then besides Amazon.”
Alfred Lin Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 49:09 How to Win by Being Right and Contrarian: Lessons from Zappos to DoorDash
KNOWLEDGE PROJECT Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lin: 80% of Zappos's Daily Orders Came from Repeat Customers
“When we, on any given day, the orders that we had, 80% of it was from repeat customers, and we grew the business, some with marketing, but the majority was by providing great customer service, having high repeat rates, having high LTV, and having customers bas…”
Alfred Lin Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 50:18 How to Win by Being Right and Contrarian: Lessons from Zappos to DoorDash
KNOWLEDGE PROJECT Assertion Not checkable as stated
Zappos's most valuable customers also had the highest product return rates
“We then did this analysis and this is the type of analysis I really enjoy doing, like, let's take our best customers, and let's take our worst customers, and look at their return rates, and it turned out our best customers at the highest LTVs return the most”
Alfred Lin Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 51:45 How to Win by Being Right and Contrarian: Lessons from Zappos to DoorDash
Lin: E-commerce should optimize return processing costs, not return rates
“You want to keep the return policy as liberal as you can, but make the cost of processing as low as possible. And so, the first order issue there is exactly, going back to first order issue, the first order issue is not the return rate. The first order issue i…”
Alfred Lin Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 52:52 How to Win by Being Right and Contrarian: Lessons from Zappos to DoorDash
KNOWLEDGE PROJECT Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lin: Zappos pushed the retail industry from 30-day to 365-day return policies
“I think we changed the whole industry, and it originally was just a competitive response. We had a liberal return policy in 30 days, other people copy 30 days, then it was 90 days, other people copy 90 days, and then we made it three 65 days.”
Alfred Lin Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 53:24 How to Win by Being Right and Contrarian: Lessons from Zappos to DoorDash
KNOWLEDGE PROJECT Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lin: LinkExchange degraded its culture by hiring for conventional fit without defined values
“Tony Hsieh had this experience at Link Exchange where we didn't define the values of the company. We started hiring people that were conventionally right for the positions in the job, and one day he woke up and realized the company that he had founded and buil…”
Alfred Lin Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 55:32 How to Win by Being Right and Contrarian: Lessons from Zappos to DoorDash
Lin: Having ten core values fails because most employees only remember two or three
“The problem with 10 is that there are probably a handful of people that remember all 10. Most people remember the first one or two or three of them”
Alfred Lin Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 57:11 How to Win by Being Right and Contrarian: Lessons from Zappos to DoorDash
KNOWLEDGE PROJECT Assertion Partly supported
Banks called Zappos's $60 million loan during the 2008 financial crisis
“At Zappos, it was, what do we do after nine-eleven when sales went to zero, what do we do during the financial crisis when credit became very, very difficult, and we were borrowing sixty million dollars, and we had sixty million dollars that we did nothing wro…”
Alfred Lin Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 1:13:11 How to Win by Being Right and Contrarian: Lessons from Zappos to DoorDash
Investors who sat out the 1999 bubble missed Google and Salesforce
“And if you decided not to invest in that time, you would have missed out on Google, Salesforce, PayPal, Zappos, OpenTable. There are a lot of great companies that were still founded during that time, and Paying market prices for those investments would have be…”
Alfred Lin Jan 21, 2025 ▶ 1:38:45 How to Win by Being Right and Contrarian: Lessons from Zappos to DoorDash
MY FIRST MILLION Assertion Supported
Conway rescued Alfred Lin's startup overnight, leading to $800M acquisition
“By the next morning, Ron had done it. We got an eight-figure contract with that company that led to a nine-figure contract, all because of this desperate email, and eventually our company got acquired for eight hundred million.”
Shaan Puri Jan 16, 2025 ▶ 30:51 The Crazy Story of Google’s 7 Angel investors
NEON SHOW Disclosure
Flatheads Expanded to Zappos in the US to Hedge COVID Disruptions
“So then second wave, we hedged our bets. We decided to go international, right? Zappos had called saying, Hey you know, we need fresh infusion of interesting shoes and USPs for our core audience. So we are opening up an international program. Would you be inte…”
Ganesh Balakrishnan Jan 23, 2023 ▶ 26:11 Shark Tank India Behind The Scenes With Flatheads Founder - Ganesh Balakrishnan
KNOWLEDGE PROJECT Assertion Not checkable as stated
Burgis: Tony Hsieh demanded empirical proof of happiness before considering marriage
“His approach was, you know, basically in a very empirical one, you know, it was like, well, I need like evidence, right? I need evidence that I will be happier married than not married. And you know, I didn't really know what to say to that because like the on…”
Luke Burgess May 31, 2022 ▶ 1:59:24 Luke Burgis: The Power of Mimetic Desire
Otis Chandler: Amazon promised to run Goodreads as an independent brand
“Amazon made it a little easy in that they told us they would want to run us as an independent subsidiary and an independent brand, just like they run Audible and IMDB and Zappos and now Twitch, and they have a long list of track record of doing this.”
Otis Chandler Feb 7, 2022 ▶ 56:33 Goodreads: Otis and Elizabeth Chandler
Tony Hsieh: I only own two pairs of shoes
“Right now I'm wearing black Asics, and then I have a pair of flip-flops that I wear, and those are the only two pairs.”
Tony Hsieh Nov 30, 2020 ▶ 2:46 Remembering Tony Hsieh of Zappos
Hsieh: I Am Passionate About Culture and Customer Service, Not Shoes
“I'm actually not passionate about shoes at all. I'm passionate about customer service and company culture, so I can talk forever about those two things, but I can't say anything about shoes.”
Tony Hsieh Nov 30, 2020 ▶ 2:54 Remembering Tony Hsieh of Zappos
Tony Hsieh: A CEO should architect the greenhouse, not be the plant
“And for me, I really think of my role as more about being the architect of the greenhouse, and then the, all the plants inside will flourish and thrive on their own.”
Tony Hsieh Nov 30, 2020 ▶ 3:46 Remembering Tony Hsieh of Zappos
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
Hsieh: Zappos originally validated demand by manually buying retail store shoes
“In order to test out the whole concept for real, Nick would actually just go down to the local shoe store, take pictures of all the shoes that were on the wall, and then put it on the website, and if someone bought something, then go down to the local shoe sto…”
Tony Hsieh Nov 30, 2020 ▶ 14:40 Remembering Tony Hsieh of Zappos
Hsieh Liquidated San Francisco Apartments at a Loss to Fund Zappos
“And basically as Zappos was growing, it was also losing more money and we also need more money for inventory. And so I ended up one by one selling off the apartments and it's kind of like when in Monopoly, when you buy a hotel or houses and then you have to se…”
Tony Hsieh Nov 30, 2020 ▶ 15:47 Remembering Tony Hsieh of Zappos
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hsieh: Investors refused to fund online shoe companies after dot-com crash
“No, and also there were huge companies like pets.com that were e-commerce that were kind of imploding at the time, and so even if someone wanted to invest in an internet company, the last thing they wanted to do was invest in an online shoe company, because no…”
Tony Hsieh Nov 30, 2020 ▶ 16:41 Remembering Tony Hsieh of Zappos
Hsieh: Maximizing short-term profit would have prevented Zappos from building its brand
“You know, if we were just around trying to say maximize the profit margins, then we never would have gone down that path. And yes, we would have made more money in the short term during those days, but then we wouldn't have built our brand and reputation and s…”
Tony Hsieh Nov 30, 2020 ▶ 19:53 Remembering Tony Hsieh of Zappos
HOW I BUILT THIS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hsieh: Zappos could expand into airlines and hotels within 10–20 years
“We're hoping, 1020 years from now, people won't even realize we started selling shoes online, and I can imagine one day there could be a Zappos Airlines or Zappos Hotel that, Is really just about the very best customer service and customer experience.”
Tony Hsieh Nov 30, 2020 ▶ 20:36 Remembering Tony Hsieh of Zappos
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
Hsieh: Zappos rejected an early Amazon acquisition before Amazon launched Endless
“Amazon had actually approached us several years before 2009. They just wanted to acquire us, and then basically the company being acquired ends up joining the mothership, and kind of loses its original identity, and so we said, Know very quickly. And then they…”
Tony Hsieh Nov 30, 2020 ▶ 21:25 Remembering Tony Hsieh of Zappos
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
Hsieh: Amazon preserved Zappos' independent culture seven years post-acquisition
“They approached us again and said, okay, we will let you guys be your own separate subsidiary with your own separate culture and own separate way of doing business. And happy to report seven years later, they've remained totally true to their word. And we've b…”
Tony Hsieh Nov 30, 2020 ▶ 22:18 Remembering Tony Hsieh of Zappos
Siminoff: Amazon is the only tech giant that elevates acquired companies
“Amazon was the only large company that I saw or felt When they bought companies truly like brought it to the next level. Like I, you know, with audible and IMDB and Zappos and I mean, you look at Twitch, like you look at all the, they've just kept founders and…”
Jamie Siminoff Jun 22, 2020 ▶ 1:22:17 Ring: Jamie Siminoff
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Zappos signed as NeoReach's first brand customer for $5K
“The first real customer we got was Zappos. The CMO of Zappos actually responded himself, introduced us to his ad agency, introduced us to someone else at Zappos, and they signed up for, I think it was a small deal at the time, 5000 dollars for a year license, …”
Jesse Leimgruber Feb 19, 2020 ▶ 5:17 1670 How This 24 Year Old Built a $12M ARR Company on $4m Raised in Influencer Marketing Attribution Space
Tony Hsieh was passionate about customer service and culture, not shoes
“I'm actually not passionate about shoes at all. I'm passionate about customer service and company culture, so I can talk forever about those two things, but I can't say anything about shoes.”
Tony Hsieh May 20, 2019 ▶ 3:57 Zappos: Tony Hsieh (2017)
Tony Hsieh: CEOs should be greenhouse architects, not the tallest plants
“I'm probably different from a lot of typical CEOs where I like to use the analogy of imagine a greenhouse where maybe at a typical company, the CEO might be the strongest and tallest and Most charismatic plant that all the other plants strive to One day become…”
Tony Hsieh May 20, 2019 ▶ 4:29 Zappos: Tony Hsieh (2017)
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
Mail-order catalogs proved a $2 billion footwear market existed before Zappos
“And then the other interesting fact was that at the time, mail order catalogs, those paper catalogs, that was actually the fastest growing segment of the footwear industry in the U.S., and that represented five percent, so two billion dollars a year and growin…”
Tony Hsieh May 20, 2019 ▶ 13:54 Zappos: Tony Hsieh (2017)
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
Zappos tested demand by photographing local shoe store inventory for its website
“Yeah, I mean, so, in order to test out the whole concept for real, Nick would actually just go down to the local shoe store, take pictures of all the shoes that were on the wall, and then put it on the website, and if someone bought something, then go down to …”
Tony Hsieh May 20, 2019 ▶ 15:44 Zappos: Tony Hsieh (2017)
Hsieh sold his personal real estate at a loss to fund Zappos
“And basically, as Zappos was growing, it was also losing more money, and we also need more money for inventory, and so I ended up, one by one, selling off the apartments, and it's kind of like when in Monopoly, when you buy a hotel or houses, and then you have…”
Tony Hsieh May 20, 2019 ▶ 16:51 Zappos: Tony Hsieh (2017)
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Following the dot-com crash, investors refused to fund online shoe startups
“No, and also there were huge companies like pets.com that were e-commerce that were kind of imploding at the time, and so even if someone wanted to invest in an internet company, the last thing they wanted to do was invest in an online shoe company, because no…”
Tony Hsieh May 20, 2019 ▶ 17:44 Zappos: Tony Hsieh (2017)
Purpose-driven brands make nonsensical moves that competitors will not copy
“When you actually want your brand to stand for something or to have some sort of purpose, and in our case, it's about to be about the very best customer service and customer experience. You do things that are kind of nonsensical in some ways and that your comp…”
Tony Hsieh May 20, 2019 ▶ 20:39 Zappos: Tony Hsieh (2017)
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
Zappos initially rejected Amazon's acquisition offer to protect its company culture
“Amazon had actually approached us several years before 2009. They just wanted to acquire us and then basically the company being acquired ends up joining the mothership and kind of loses its original identity. And so we said no very quickly.”
Tony Hsieh May 20, 2019 ▶ 21:53 Zappos: Tony Hsieh (2017)
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Amazon kept its promise to let Zappos operate autonomously post-acquisition
“They approached us again and said, okay, we will let you guys be your own separate subsidiary with your own separate culture and own separate way of doing business. And happy to report seven years later, they've remained totally true to their word. And we've b…”
Tony Hsieh May 20, 2019 ▶ 22:46 Zappos: Tony Hsieh (2017)
20VC Insight
Emotional brand connection is the best weapon to beat Amazon
“I think there's the best way to beat Amazon is with heart. I think Amazon doesn't create the emotional connection with a brand that, say, a Chewy's did, or a Zappos did.”
Jason Stoffer Jul 23, 2018 ▶ 25:35 20VC: The Metrics That Matter In Early-Stage Consumer, Why Moats Matter More Than Brand Today and How VCs Deal with S*** Hit The Fan Moments with Jason Stoffer, Managing Partner @ Maveron
Tony Hsieh Owns Two Pairs of Shoes and Dislikes Footwear
“Right now I'm wearing black Asics, and then I have a pair of flip-flops that I wear, and those are the only two pairs. I'm actually not passionate about shoes at all. I'm passionate about customer service and company culture, so I can talk forever about those …”
Tony Hsieh Jan 23, 2017 ▶ 1:20 Zappos: Tony Hsieh
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
The US Footwear Market Was $40 Billion Annually When Zappos Pitched
“One was that footwear at the time was a forty billion dollar a year industry in the US. Yeah. And I'm not into shoes at all, so that was News to me. And then the other interesting fact was that at the time, mail order catalogs, those paper catalogs, that was a…”
Tony Hsieh Jan 23, 2017 ▶ 11:15 Zappos: Tony Hsieh
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Supported
Zappos Tested Demand by Fulfilling Orders From a Local Brick-and-Mortar Store
“So in order to test out the whole concept for real, Nick would actually just go down to the local shoe store, take pictures of all the shoes that were on the wall, and then put it on the website. And if someone bought something, then go down to the local shoe …”
Tony Hsieh Jan 23, 2017 ▶ 13:14 Zappos: Tony Hsieh
Tony Hsieh Sold His San Francisco Apartments at a Loss for Zappos
“And so I ended up, one by one, selling off the apartments, and it's kind of like when in Monopoly, when you buy a hotel or houses, and then you have to sell them, but you lose money on the sale.”
Tony Hsieh Jan 23, 2017 ▶ 14:21 Zappos: Tony Hsieh
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hsieh: Post-Crash Investors Believed No One Would Buy Shoes Online
“No, and also there were huge companies like pets.com that were e-commerce that were kind of imploding at the time, and so even if someone wanted to invest in an internet company, the last thing they wanted to do was invest in an online shoe company, because no…”
Tony Hsieh Jan 23, 2017 ▶ 15:15 Zappos: Tony Hsieh
Hsieh: Purpose-Driven Customer Service Requires Decisions Competitors Would Never Make
“And so I think, you know, when you actually want your brand to stand for something or to have some sort of purpose, and in our case, it's about to be about the very best customer service and customer experience. You do things that are kind of nonsensical in so…”
Tony Hsieh Jan 23, 2017 ▶ 18:05 Zappos: Tony Hsieh
HOW I BUILT THIS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Tony Hsieh Envisions Future Zappos Airlines and Hotels Within 20 Years
“We're hoping, 1020 years from now, people won't even realize we started selling shoes online. And I can imagine one day there could be a Zappos Airlines or Zappos Hotel that Is really just about the very best customer service and customer experience.”
Tony Hsieh Jan 23, 2017 ▶ 18:41 Zappos: Tony Hsieh
Zappos Rejected Amazon's First Buyout Offer to Protect Its Corporate Identity
“Amazon had actually approached us several years before 2009. They just wanted to acquire us, and then basically the company being acquired ends up joining the mothership, and kind of loses its original identity, and so we said, Know very quickly.”
Tony Hsieh Jan 23, 2017 ▶ 19:19 Zappos: Tony Hsieh
HOW I BUILT THIS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Amazon Kept Its Promise of Autonomy Seven Years After Acquiring Zappos
“Happy to report seven years later, they've remained totally true to their word. And we've been able to continue doing our own thing and our culture is very different and distinct from Amazon's”
Tony Hsieh Jan 23, 2017 ▶ 20:23 Zappos: Tony Hsieh

← every entity, every show

Made with StarZero

Turn any episode into a week of clips.

This entire site, thousands of episodes across every show transcribed, diarized, checked and made playable, runs on the StarZero media pipeline. Drop in your own episode and the podcast clipper finds the moments worth sharing, cuts them, captions them, and reframes them for every feed.