RevOps
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Traditional Siloed Sales Teams Operate Like Ineffective Assembly Lines
“You have SDRs or prospecting, AEs or closing deals, run ups or maintaining systems. The issue with this is it operates a lot like an assembly. And assembly lines aren't really good for sharing learnings and scaling ideas.”
Sam Blond: Traditional CRM Forecasts Are Fundamentally Wrong Due to Bias
“The only problem is it's entirely wrong. And, you know, you have like a sales rep that is adding their own like subjective Experience about the account. Like they may want to influence the sales manager to think that the deal is going to close, or they may be …”
Norton: Owner is hiring a dedicated GTM AI lead in RevOps
“I'm now hiring for a GTMAI lead, so somebody who will do nothing but this within the rev ops organization.”
Norton: RevOps teams deploy AI tools without designing human follow-up workflows
“I think I see this mistake where you have RevOps people investigating tools and then applying them, but then there's no thought of, okay, how does this get to a rep? How do they follow up? How does the manager then look at what's going on?”
Lemkin: CROs must manage 50/50 AI and human teams by year-end
“I think this year, To be a RevOps professional imminently in a CRO by the end of this year, you will have to know how to manage a fifty-fifty team. 50% AI, 50% human. Not just tools, but you will have to learn how to manage agents, agents, AIs, whether that's …”
Moreno: Delaying RevOps until $50M in ARR creates massive technical debt
“Generally, my experience has been when it's frustrating, it's because at around 50 to a hundred million in revenue, someone's like, oh, maybe we should use data to make decisions. And then it's like a multi-year process of unwinding a bunch of stuff that happe…”
Giffis: Hire strategic RevOps and People leadership early in company growth
“You go to market ops person or rev ops person is such a critical role. Do not skimp on that role. Hire that person early. I also think you should hire a head of people early, but hire go to market ops early and make sure that these are not just tacticians, but…”
Norton: Owner.com Scaled RevOps via Fractional Contractors Before Hiring Full-Time
“Hiring these two leaders on contract. So they were both from in my network. I could do it with a lot of trust and they started doing contract work with us like 10 hours a week and 15 and 20 until the team was big enough. And our ARR run rate was big enough to …”
Norton: Do Not Read Slide Decks Out Loud in Business Reviews
“Do not read the deck in MBR. This is like the old way of doing it. RevOps builds a deck. They spend 60 minutes flipping through the deck, telling people things. You don't ingest the data as much as you should to make or to have thoughtful discussions in my opi…”
Kellogg: Upgrading SaaS metrics often requires replacing non-strategic RevOps and FP&A staff
“The change management is hard. It may require staff upgrades, particularly key analytics roles like RevOps, FP&A. Sometimes those people are not that strategic. They're not that fast, right? That they're good at making a budget and they're good at getting comp…”
Goldberg: RevOps leaders will increasingly evolve into CRO roles
“And you're going to start to see the evolution of RevOps be moving into the CRO world. When you start bringing data and science together.”
Lopez: The best RevOps hires are analytical former sales reps
“Some of the best folks are people who maybe sat in a seat and they were a rep. Right. But they have an analytical mind and like maybe they, you know, studied economics or math or something like that.”
Lopez: Sales pipeline stages must be binary customer actions, not rep opinions
“I think that, I mean, one of the things that I think a lot of companies fail at is like, they have their, like, they build their stages and their stages are kind of like rep dependent. So it's like, oh, like a rep says, oh, I'm interested the next stage. It's …”
Lemkin: Rep quotas must hit 3.5x to 5.5x OTE to cover support costs
“And a simp, a simplistic way to boil it all down is, one, we have to revert back to sales closing three to five times what they take home. Three, at least three X for SMB, at least four X for mid-market, five X for enterprise. And you have to budget in there t…”
RevOps, Not Sales Leadership, Is the True Buyer for Data Software
“And I originally thought our buyers were sales leaders. Well, our true buyer is rev ops. So revenue operations has that analytical brain where they're thinking, you know, so they're by, they're reporting the CRO and they're reporting to the CFO. So they think …”
Suvanto: Revenue operations is booming in the US but trailing in Europe
“I know in us, the rev ops is, is already booming in Europe. It's sort of coming few steps back.”
Conant: 6sense unified sales and marketing ops under one RevOps team
“We didn't hire marketing ops, we didn't hire sales ops, because one of the most embarrassing moments of my career is me standing up with my revenue model that marketing ops put together, and my head of sales standing up with his, and they weren't exactly the s…”