RevOps

topic on 3 shows · 18 statements across 14 episodes

the Official SaaStr Podcast Top Founders 20VC

18 statements about RevOps, every show

SAASTR Insight
Traditional Siloed Sales Teams Operate Like Ineffective Assembly Lines
“You have SDRs or prospecting, AEs or closing deals, run ups or maintaining systems. The issue with this is it operates a lot like an assembly. And assembly lines aren't really good for sharing learnings and scaling ideas.”
Varun Anand Feb 11, 2026 ▶ 11:16 Going From Blobs to Billions. Clay's Co-Founder Breaks Down Inbound, Outbound, and AI-Powered Sales.
SAASTR Insight
Sam Blond: Traditional CRM Forecasts Are Fundamentally Wrong Due to Bias
“The only problem is it's entirely wrong. And, you know, you have like a sales rep that is adding their own like subjective Experience about the account. Like they may want to influence the sales manager to think that the deal is going to close, or they may be …”
Sam Blond Jun 11, 2025 ▶ 20:52 5 Ways AI Has Already Changed B2B Sales Forever with Perplexity's CBO Dmitry Shevelenko
SAASTR Disclosure
Norton: Owner is hiring a dedicated GTM AI lead in RevOps
“I'm now hiring for a GTMAI lead, so somebody who will do nothing but this within the rev ops organization.”
Kyle Norton May 28, 2025 ▶ 8:12 AI, Sales + GTM in 2026: This Changes Everything with Jason Lemkin and Owner CRO Kyle Norton
SAASTR Insight
Norton: RevOps teams deploy AI tools without designing human follow-up workflows
“I think I see this mistake where you have RevOps people investigating tools and then applying them, but then there's no thought of, okay, how does this get to a rep? How do they follow up? How does the manager then look at what's going on?”
Kyle Norton May 28, 2025 ▶ 14:24 AI, Sales + GTM in 2026: This Changes Everything with Jason Lemkin and Owner CRO Kyle Norton
SAASTR Prediction Not checkable as stated
Lemkin: CROs must manage 50/50 AI and human teams by year-end
“I think this year, To be a RevOps professional imminently in a CRO by the end of this year, you will have to know how to manage a fifty-fifty team. 50% AI, 50% human. Not just tools, but you will have to learn how to manage agents, agents, AIs, whether that's …”
Jason Lemkin May 28, 2025 ▶ 50:45 AI, Sales + GTM in 2026: This Changes Everything with Jason Lemkin and Owner CRO Kyle Norton
SAASTR Insight
Moreno: Delaying RevOps until $50M in ARR creates massive technical debt
“Generally, my experience has been when it's frustrating, it's because at around 50 to a hundred million in revenue, someone's like, oh, maybe we should use data to make decisions. And then it's like a multi-year process of unwinding a bunch of stuff that happe…”
Graham Moreno Mar 5, 2025 ▶ 31:53 How Windsurf Built A Billion-Dollar AI Leader and a Winning Sales Machine
Giffis: Hire strategic RevOps and People leadership early in company growth
“You go to market ops person or rev ops person is such a critical role. Do not skimp on that role. Hire that person early. I also think you should hire a head of people early, but hire go to market ops early and make sure that these are not just tacticians, but…”
Scott Giffis Feb 4, 2025 ▶ 12:56 Frame.io COO Shares How they Built Product to Hit 1m Users and Exited to Adobe for $1.25b
SAASTR Disclosure
Norton: Owner.com Scaled RevOps via Fractional Contractors Before Hiring Full-Time
“Hiring these two leaders on contract. So they were both from in my network. I could do it with a lot of trust and they started doing contract work with us like 10 hours a week and 15 and 20 until the team was big enough. And our ARR run rate was big enough to …”
Kyle Norton Apr 30, 2024 ▶ 21:47 How to Build Go-to-Market Efficiency in SMB Sales with Owner.com CRO Kyle Norton
SAASTR Insight
Norton: Do Not Read Slide Decks Out Loud in Business Reviews
“Do not read the deck in MBR. This is like the old way of doing it. RevOps builds a deck. They spend 60 minutes flipping through the deck, telling people things. You don't ingest the data as much as you should to make or to have thoughtful discussions in my opi…”
Kyle Norton Apr 30, 2024 ▶ 26:30 How to Build Go-to-Market Efficiency in SMB Sales with Owner.com CRO Kyle Norton
SAASTR Opinion
Kellogg: Upgrading SaaS metrics often requires replacing non-strategic RevOps and FP&A staff
“The change management is hard. It may require staff upgrades, particularly key analytics roles like RevOps, FP&A. Sometimes those people are not that strategic. They're not that fast, right? That they're good at making a budget and they're good at getting comp…”
Dave Kellogg Dec 13, 2023 ▶ 26:04 15 Signs You Have A SaaS Metrics Problem (and How to Fix it) with Dave Kellogg
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Goldberg: RevOps leaders will increasingly evolve into CRO roles
“And you're going to start to see the evolution of RevOps be moving into the CRO world. When you start bringing data and science together.”
Steve Goldberg Dec 13, 2023 ▶ 35:38 Steve Goldberg: Core Questions All CFOs Ask Today When Buying | E1094 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
SAASTR Insight
Lopez: The best RevOps hires are analytical former sales reps
“Some of the best folks are people who maybe sat in a seat and they were a rep. Right. But they have an analytical mind and like maybe they, you know, studied economics or math or something like that.”
Robert Lopez Aug 15, 2023 ▶ 13:44 10 Things Top CROs Wish They Knew Early in Our Careers with CRO Justworks
SAASTR Insight
Lopez: Sales pipeline stages must be binary customer actions, not rep opinions
“I think that, I mean, one of the things that I think a lot of companies fail at is like, they have their, like, they build their stages and their stages are kind of like rep dependent. So it's like, oh, like a rep says, oh, I'm interested the next stage. It's …”
Robert Lopez Aug 15, 2023 ▶ 46:57 10 Things Top CROs Wish They Knew Early in Our Careers with CRO Justworks
SAASTR Insight
Lemkin: Rep quotas must hit 3.5x to 5.5x OTE to cover support costs
“And a simp, a simplistic way to boil it all down is, one, we have to revert back to sales closing three to five times what they take home. Three, at least three X for SMB, at least four X for mid-market, five X for enterprise. And you have to budget in there t…”
Jason Lemkin Jul 12, 2023 ▶ 27:43 The Cold, Hard Truths About SaaS In 2023: Part 1 AMA with SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin
RevOps, Not Sales Leadership, Is the True Buyer for Data Software
“And I originally thought our buyers were sales leaders. Well, our true buyer is rev ops. So revenue operations has that analytical brain where they're thinking, you know, so they're by, they're reporting the CRO and they're reporting to the CFO. So they think …”
Ken Hoppe Jan 24, 2023 ▶ 5:51 Genius Bootstrapper Hits $1.7m ARR, Raised $300k But Kept 100% Equity, How?!
Suvanto: Revenue operations is booming in the US but trailing in Europe
“I know in us, the rev ops is, is already booming in Europe. It's sort of coming few steps back.”
Pietari Suvanto Nov 29, 2022 ▶ 16:36 How they hit $12m ARR with just $4m Raised helping RevOps teams with Firmographic Data
SAASTR Disclosure
Conant: 6sense unified sales and marketing ops under one RevOps team
“We didn't hire marketing ops, we didn't hire sales ops, because one of the most embarrassing moments of my career is me standing up with my revenue model that marketing ops put together, and my head of sales standing up with his, and they weren't exactly the s…”
Latané Conant Jan 27, 2022 ▶ 7:09 Scaling Your Startup 10x From $20M to $200M with Sapphire, Lightspeed, TripActions, and 6Sense
The RevOps Software Market is at Least $10 Billion
“We think it's at least, if not anything, it's at least a ten billion dollar market.”
Dharmesh Singh Nov 9, 2020 ▶ 12:41 FullCast Hits $1.1m ARR, Pure SaaS From $1m Agency in Rev Ops Space

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