Ken Hoppe

Founder and CEO, Modigie · 2 appearances on the record.

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Ken Hoppe is the founder and CEO of Modigie, a B2B sales intelligence and contact enrichment platform. Prior to bootstrapping Modigie, he spent roughly two decades in tech sales and leadership roles at companies including Google and Oracle.

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3 predictions · 20 assertions · 1 opinion · 3 insights · 10 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 23 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 2 are resolved, 1 is not yet assessed, and 20 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

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Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Hoppe: 28% of publicly traded companies were unprofitable in 2021
“A shocking statistic, 28% of the publicly traded companies were not profitable in twenty-twenty-one.”
Ken Hoppe May 22, 2023 ▶ 2:01 Profitable Growth is sexy again. How we hit $1.7M profitably with only 6 FTEs and plans to scale profitably by 5x YoY.

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Everything Ken Hoppe said on Top Founders that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Insight
Hoppe: Accurate contact data is more essential than advanced sales software
“I can sell without a CRM. I can sell without intent data. I can sell without conversational intelligence. These are wonderful technologies. I can sell without a sales engagement tool. I just need a spreadsheet, and I have to have the contact information for my…”
Ken Hoppe May 22, 2023 ▶ 5:47 Profitable Growth is sexy again. How we hit $1.7M profitably with only 6 FTEs and plans to scale profitably by 5x YoY.
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hoppe: 40% of sales prospecting contact data is inaccurate
“40%, we're finding about 40% of contact data that reps use to prospect is inaccurate. It's a shocking statistic, but it's real.”
Ken Hoppe May 22, 2023 ▶ 4:13 Profitable Growth is sexy again. How we hit $1.7M profitably with only 6 FTEs and plans to scale profitably by 5x YoY.
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hoppe: Modigi spent zero dollars on marketing
“We've spent zero dollars on marketing.”
Ken Hoppe May 22, 2023 ▶ 8:58 Profitable Growth is sexy again. How we hit $1.7M profitably with only 6 FTEs and plans to scale profitably by 5x YoY.
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hoppe: Majority of Modigi revenue comes from companies worth over $1B
“So the majority of our revenue as a new company comes from companies that are worth over a billion dollars.”
Ken Hoppe May 22, 2023 ▶ 9:21 Profitable Growth is sexy again. How we hit $1.7M profitably with only 6 FTEs and plans to scale profitably by 5x YoY.
Disclosure
Modigi uses 3-month performance exit clauses on 12-month enterprise contracts
“We're a SaaS that has a 12 month subscription. That's our typical contract. But if our buyer says, listen, I need, you know, I need assurances that, that if you shit the bed, that we can get out. So, on occasion, we will, we'll do a three-month contract where …”
Ken Hoppe May 22, 2023 ▶ 12:25 Profitable Growth is sexy again. How we hit $1.7M profitably with only 6 FTEs and plans to scale profitably by 5x YoY.
Disclosure
Modigi dropped a $150k deal to $99,999 to bypass procurement sign-off
“A cybersecurity company we're working with, we had about a hundred and 50,000 dollar deal on the table. And if you recall that ended last quarter You know, POs that anything had like 50,000 or 100,000 had to go to a higher level of authority. And so, our procu…”
Ken Hoppe May 22, 2023 ▶ 12:58 Profitable Growth is sexy again. How we hit $1.7M profitably with only 6 FTEs and plans to scale profitably by 5x YoY.
Disclosure
Hoppe refuses to give up Modigi equity to venture capitalists
“I'm not giving up equity to VCs.”
Ken Hoppe May 22, 2023 ▶ 18:50 Profitable Growth is sexy again. How we hit $1.7M profitably with only 6 FTEs and plans to scale profitably by 5x YoY.
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hoppe predicts Modigi will generate $3M-$4M EBITDA in two years
“I can spit off three to four million of EBITDA over the next two years, and I feel really good about that.”
Ken Hoppe May 22, 2023 ▶ 18:54 Profitable Growth is sexy again. How we hit $1.7M profitably with only 6 FTEs and plans to scale profitably by 5x YoY.
Insight
Sales Tech Stacks Are Useless Without Accurate Contact Data
“What we're saying is the most essential tool is overlooked, is, is the, if I don't have the right contact information to reach my likely buyer, None of the tech stack matters.”
Ken Hoppe Jan 24, 2023 ▶ 2:44 Genius Bootstrapper Hits $1.7m ARR, Raised $300k But Kept 100% Equity, How?!
Insight
RevOps, Not Sales Leadership, Is the True Buyer for Data Software
“And I originally thought our buyers were sales leaders. Well, our true buyer is rev ops. So revenue operations has that analytical brain where they're thinking, you know, so they're by, they're reporting the CRO and they're reporting to the CFO. So they think …”
Ken Hoppe Jan 24, 2023 ▶ 5:51 Genius Bootstrapper Hits $1.7m ARR, Raised $300k But Kept 100% Equity, How?!
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Modigi Hit $1.7M Revenue With Zero Dollars Spent on Marketing
“We, we've spent zero dollars on marketing. It's all been just brute force and word of mouth is where our leads come from.”
Ken Hoppe Jan 24, 2023 ▶ 17:00 Genius Bootstrapper Hits $1.7m ARR, Raised $300k But Kept 100% Equity, How?!
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Outbound BDRs Waste 10% to 20% of Outreach on Former Employees
“What we often find is BDR reps that are doing large volume outbound are oftentimes chasing or pursuing 10 to 20% or more of the prospects that don't even work at the target company.”
Ken Hoppe Jan 24, 2021 ▶ 3:42 Modigie Gets You Accurate Prospect Cell Numbers, Hits $300k ARR, 29 Customers
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Building Modigie Cost $300k Versus an Estimated $3M Five Years Ago
“So our application all in probably is just under 300,000. If you, five years ago, that might've been. To build it. That might've been a three million dollar a bill.”
Ken Hoppe Jan 24, 2021 ▶ 10:15 Modigie Gets You Accurate Prospect Cell Numbers, Hits $300k ARR, 29 Customers
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Modigie's Co-Founder Grew a Previous Solo Company to $120M Without Funding
“Keith's former company, he grew from himself to one hundred and twenty million in revenue. With zero funding.”
Ken Hoppe Jan 24, 2021 ▶ 10:35 Modigie Gets You Accurate Prospect Cell Numbers, Hits $300k ARR, 29 Customers
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hoppe: Modigi was profitable in both 2021 and 2022
“In 2021, we made profit. In 2022, we made profit.”
Ken Hoppe May 22, 2023 ▶ 10:59 Profitable Growth is sexy again. How we hit $1.7M profitably with only 6 FTEs and plans to scale profitably by 5x YoY.
Disclosure
Hoppe: Modigi accepts $25k to $50k land deals during budget consolidation
“There's a lot of consolidation in, in, in budgets, so I'm willing to take smaller deals that are maybe 25% of the size, 25,000 dollar deals, 50,000 dollar deals, just to get the insertion.”
Ken Hoppe May 22, 2023 ▶ 15:57 Profitable Growth is sexy again. How we hit $1.7M profitably with only 6 FTEs and plans to scale profitably by 5x YoY.
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hoppe: Audit showed 68% bad phone numbers at $25B enterprise firm
“Here's an example of a twenty five billion dollar cloud services company. They thought that mobile phone coverage is what our big bet is, right? That's what we're specialized on. That they had 28% mobile phone coverage. They didn't understand. They thought it …”
Ken Hoppe May 22, 2023 ▶ 16:50 Profitable Growth is sexy again. How we hit $1.7M profitably with only 6 FTEs and plans to scale profitably by 5x YoY.
Opinion
Salesforce Integration Covers 80% of the Market For Modigi
“We sit inside Salesforce. So it gives us coverage of 80% of the market we feel. We're a Salesforce managed package.”
Ken Hoppe Jan 24, 2023 ▶ 2:59 Genius Bootstrapper Hits $1.7m ARR, Raised $300k But Kept 100% Equity, How?!
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Modigi's Top Customer Contracts Approach $200,000 in Annual Value
“And our highest paying customers are close to 200,000 dollar ACVs, bookings.”
Ken Hoppe Jan 24, 2023 ▶ 4:38 Genius Bootstrapper Hits $1.7m ARR, Raised $300k But Kept 100% Equity, How?!
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Modigi Lands Initial Customer Contracts Exceeding $100,000
“Where we're getting our first orders are over a hundred K, which is hard.”
Ken Hoppe Jan 24, 2023 ▶ 5:31 Genius Bootstrapper Hits $1.7m ARR, Raised $300k But Kept 100% Equity, How?!
Disclosure
Modigi Models Platform Fees at 25% of Total Enterprise Contract Value
“The platform fee is, is will be roughly about 25% moving forward. That's how we've modeled it.”
Ken Hoppe Jan 24, 2023 ▶ 10:16 Genius Bootstrapper Hits $1.7m ARR, Raised $300k But Kept 100% Equity, How?!
Disclosure
Modigi Aims to Achieve 80% Gross Margins on API Model
“So we're trying to get as close to 80% gross profit while showing true value to the client based on the functionality.”
Ken Hoppe Jan 24, 2023 ▶ 10:32 Genius Bootstrapper Hits $1.7m ARR, Raised $300k But Kept 100% Equity, How?!
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Modigi Predicts Closing Three $500,000 Customer Accounts by Year-End
“We have companies that are now, by the end of this year, I, we will probably have Three companies that spend, have spent about a half million with Modigi.”
Ken Hoppe Jan 24, 2023 ▶ 10:57 Genius Bootstrapper Hits $1.7m ARR, Raised $300k But Kept 100% Equity, How?!
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Modigi Generated Between $930,000 and $950,000 in Revenue in 2021
“And then we just did a hair under a million. My goal was a million. I think we came in at nine 50 or nine 30.”
Ken Hoppe Jan 24, 2023 ▶ 13:41 Genius Bootstrapper Hits $1.7m ARR, Raised $300k But Kept 100% Equity, How?!

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Assertion Not checkable as stated
Modigi Reached a $1.7M Revenue Run Rate With Only Six Employees
“And they only have six full-time employees with a 1.7 million dollar run rate, really high revenue per employee.”
Nathan Latka Jan 24, 2023 ▶ 21:03 Genius Bootstrapper Hits $1.7m ARR, Raised $300k But Kept 100% Equity, How?!

Appearances (2)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Genius Bootstrapper Hits $1.7m ARR, Raised $300k But Kept 100% Equity, How?! Jan 24, 2023 12m
Modigie Gets You Accurate Prospect Cell Numbers, Hits $300k ARR, 29 Customers Jan 24, 2021 9m

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Profitable Growth is sexy again. How we hit $1.7M profitably with only 6 FTEs and plans to May 22, 2023 15m aired address
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