Payments

topic on 11 shows · 25 statements across 21 episodes

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25 statements about Payments, every show

a16z Insight
Levchin: Every niche in payments is at least $100 billion
“There are no niches and payments that are smaller than a hundred billion dollars, and so that's probably the most surprising thing I've seen.”
Max Levchin Sep 3, 2026 ▶ 5:49 Why AI Agents Could Finally Reinvent the Credit Card
a16z Insight
Rampell: Higher payment transaction sizes yield smaller percentage take rates
“What's surprising about payment area under the curve, if you will, is that, like, the bigger the dollar is, like, the smaller the rake, which I guess makes sense, because you're not gonna get two percent of that 40 trillion dollar payment”
Alex Rampell Sep 3, 2026 ▶ 6:52 Why AI Agents Could Finally Reinvent the Credit Card
a16z Insight
Levchin: Payments innovations either reach critical mass or fail completely
“There's some unobvious a priori, but clear a posteriori version of critical mass. And if you don't reach it, you're going to fail. Like there's not really a okay outcomes in payments. You either get there and everyone needs to have your widget or your network …”
Max Levchin Sep 3, 2026 ▶ 11:15 Why AI Agents Could Finally Reinvent the Credit Card
a16z Insight
Levchin: Convenience trumps all other factors as transaction size shrinks
“The convenience just trumps everything else as the total amount you're trying to send goes down.”
Max Levchin Sep 3, 2026 ▶ 16:59 Why AI Agents Could Finally Reinvent the Credit Card
Robinson: Easy money in payments usually signals fraud or criminal activity
“Usually in my business, it means there's criminal activity or there's something funny, right? If money's easy, something's wrong.”
Rodney Robinson Aug 18, 2026 ▶ 32:32 Eliminating Payment Friction and Mitigating Fraud with Rodney Robinson of TabaPay
Toast's business model relied on payments infrastructure opening up around 2012
“You know, back in 2012 and 13 is when payments were opening up without which the business model may not have worked.”
Aman Narang Jul 20, 2026 ▶ 49:18 Toast: Aman Narang. How a Long Wait for the Dinner Check Launched a $2 Billion Business.
Arnovitz: AI coding agents jumping straight to code causes severe bugs
“Planning is really important when you're implementing something technical and let's say you're implementing payments or something that's going to be a change to your database. If the coding agent is just like, all right, I got it and just starts writing code. …”
Zevi Arnovitz Jan 18, 2026 ▶ 9:27 How a Meta PM ships products without ever writing code | Zevi Arnovitz
Solana is still not great for payments, Abrams argues
“Solana is a great blockchain for a lot of use cases, but it's still not great for payments.”
Zach Abrams Nov 4, 2025 ▶ 38:30 Stablecoin special: Zach Abrams (Bridge) and Henri Stern (Privy)
IN DEPTH Assertion Not checkable as stated
Song: Most early identity verification startups ended up verticalized in fintech
“Cause like a lot of identity prior to this is very verticalized. You'd have all sorts of businesses who are all like, you know, they all have this idea of we're going to build this universal thing, but in reality, it oftentimes just a vertical, like, Hey, we g…”
Rick Song May 8, 2025 ▶ 15:01 From reluctant founder to $2B valuation: The story of Persona | Rick Song (Co-founder and CEO)
Sophinos: Every major vertical SaaS company eventually owns the customer's financial transactions
“Every single big industry specific software company owns the transaction.”
Luke Sophinos Sep 25, 2024 ▶ 46:46 How to build a $1M+ vertical SaaS business (step-by-step guide)
IN DEPTH Assertion Not checkable as stated
Seshan: Stripe did not expand multi-product until core payments was deeply working
“The engine that powers Stripe is payments. It is payments. It's always gonna be payments. Like, payments is really, really vital, and Stripe should not have, and did not, like, overreach into multi-product before payments was, like, really, really, really work…”
Tara Seshan Jun 22, 2023 ▶ 33:35 Lessons from Stripe on adding new products | Tara Seshan (Watershed, Stripe)
WTF Insight
Aatrey: Marketplaces cannot be commoditized like payment protocols
“Payments are same on every app. It's not that my, if I do payment with one app to the other, they stand for different things. Payments is a commoditized one simple thing. Products are not. Like it's two different stores you go to cannot be exactly the same. Th…”
Vidit Aatrey May 7, 2023 ▶ 1:48:39 Ep #3| WTF is E-commerce: Kishore Biyani, Udaan & Meesho Founders Reveal What Sells and What Doesn’t · Nikhil Kamath
20VC Insight
Kanovich: The payments industry is an onion with endless layers of complexity
“The good things about payments is that it's like a, it's like an onion. You keep peeling it and you're thinking, now we understand it. And then you realize that there are more and more layers.”
Sebastian Kanovich Sep 16, 2022 ▶ 1:03 dLocal CEO Sebastian Kanovich: The $8BN Company You Might Not Know | 20VC #926 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
WE LIVE TO BUILD Prediction Not checkable as stated
Wade: Cracking global in-chat payments will be messaging's next major evolution
“None of the chat ups have actually nailed payments at a global level. Like you can send messages globally, but you can't send payments globally. I definitely think that's the next frontier. Whoever cracks that, hopefully us that'll be, you know, the next sort …”
Robbie Wade Jul 12, 2022 ▶ 23:23 2 Billion People Use a Super App That Isn't One
20VC Assertion Contradicted
Carney: Payments account for about 8% of bank balance sheets
“About eight percent, depends on jurisdiction, but about eight percent of a bank's balance sheet is payments”
Mark Carney Jan 10, 2022 ▶ 21:23 20VC: Former Governor of the Bank of England, Mark Carney on Why "Only the Niche Will Survive" in Crypto, How Governments and Central Banks Retain Control in a World of Decentralised Finance & The Winners and Losers in Crypto Exchanges and NFTs
20VC Insight
No business sector compounds as effectively as payments
“I think nothing compounds like payments, so it's kind of hard to say, but I think it's going to be more growth, more people, more merchants, more products, more geographies.”
Guillaume Pousaz Apr 8, 2021 ▶ 30:18 20VC: Checkout.com Founder Guillaume Pousaz on The Transition From Bootstrapped Founder to Raising $830M and a $15Bn Valuation, What It Means To Have "3 Roadmaps For Life" & How Becoming a Parent Changes the Type of Leader You Are
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Amilia Generates One-Third of Its Revenue From Payment Processing
“One third of my revenue comes from payment.”
Francois Galliette Jan 4, 2021 ▶ 8:35 Amilia Makes $8m/yr From Event Organizers on 3 Revenue Streams
20VC Assertion Supported
Wilkes notes that 90% of payments in Mexico remain cash transactions
“For example, in Mexico, 90% of payments still are in cash to Today.”
Clay Wilkes Jul 31, 2020 ▶ 8:42 20VC: Why The Unbundling of Fintech Will Continue, How VCs Are Propping Up The Neo-Banking Industry & Why We Need A New Framework To Value Businesses Today with Clay Wilkes, Founder & CEO @ Galileo
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Wave offers free core software to monetize through embedded fintech
“We give away our invoicing and accounting software, 100% for free. And then we monetize by putting payments, payroll lending offers, et cetera, in the application and get those deeply embedded into what the small business owners are doing.”
Kirk Simpson Mar 9, 2019 ▶ 2:44 1323 How FinTech Company Wave Is Deploying $100m in Capital, $25m+ in ARR
Friede: Raising incremental funding tied to milestones preserves equity in payments
“In payments, you make money a little bit of a time. So it takes a while to get a payment company up to critical mass. And in that environment, it's much smarter to raise a little bit of money, show results, hit a milestone and raise more money. And that way yo…”
Carla Friede Nov 23, 2017 ▶ 7:11 852: FinTech: Businesses Process $10b+ In Supplier Payments Through NvoicePay
20VC Prediction Held up
Armstrong: Frictionless crypto payments will exceed Visa volume by 10x
“I actually think if payments become as low friction as I think they will in the future, you know, you could be doing dozens of payments as you walk down the street, or your phone as you're browsing websites, or like, we'll actually see an order of magnitude in…”
Brian Armstrong Aug 4, 2017 ▶ 20:29 20VC: Coinbase's Brian Armstrong on The Rise & Short Term Correction in ICOs, The Regulatory Framework Required For Blockchain To Succeed & How The Rise of Blockchain Disrupts The VC Industry
a16z Insight
Rampell: Payments drive digital wallet adoption due to high transaction frequency
“Because payments are, they're the most important one because they have the frequency of use. You might pay for things three times a day. Whereas, you know, how often do you pull out your frequent flyer card, or how often do you pull out your insurance card ver…”
Alex Rampell Jul 16, 2017 ▶ 4:02 What Happens When Mobile (Really) Hits the Wallet
a16z Insight
Chan: Mobile Payments and QR Codes Underpin China's Mobile Ecosystem
“Now, when you think about this online and offline world, there are actually two components that are the plumbing to make the seamless mobile society work, and those two things are payments and QR codes, and they're actually very intertwined in China.”
Connie Chan Jul 16, 2017 ▶ 4:59 A Whirlwind Tour Through Tech Trends in China
Le Moal: Payments remain fundamentally local and regional, not truly global
“I believe actually that payments are extremely local and regional.”
Laurent Le Moal May 22, 2017 ▶ 2:49 667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal
Le Moal: Merchants view buy-now-pay-later as marketing, not payment fees
“When you talk to merchants about this, they see it as a marketing. Yes. For them, it's like, oh, it's not the payments. You know, we are not talking about basis point of cost. For them, it's the marketing instrument to sell more.”
Laurent Le Moal May 22, 2017 ▶ 23:43 667: PayU Passes $180M Revenue, New Risk Assesment Product To Grow Financial Services Arm with Ex PayPal CEO Laurent Le Moal

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