Orion

“Even though we couldn't get the price to be one that we felt comfortable launching as a consumer product, we did intent when we designed it and developed it was a consumer design and intention.”

“At the time when we acquired Oculus, part of the rationale was there was a research division led by Michael Abrash that was looking at augmented reality technologies. Augmented reality translates into glasses and wearables. And right out of the gate, we starte…”

“Orion, the air glasses we worked on, I worked on most recently are a bit ahead of their time because they're using waveguides and micro LEDs that are not quite ready for mass production. The yields just aren't there. The cost is still high.”

“The great thing about Orion is you got a 70 degree field of view, binocular.”

“Ben Thompson wrote a big bull case for the meta augmented reality headsets, not just Orion, but also the meta Ray-Ban displays today talking about as AI models get better on the fly UI generation with less Chrome, which is like the top bar and the bottom bar a…”

“Orion is 20 years old, by the way, it hasn't flown humans yet.”

“That's why I said like the, Orion was the first thought time I thought Me. Like, the first, Orion, like, putting that in my head, I was like, okay, like, it could happen. Like, there does exist, like, a life for us as a species past the phone.”

“There were hopes that Orion could be used for GPT-V but its improvement was, like, not enough to be, like, really a GPT-V. Furthermore, it was trained on the classical method, which is, like which is a ton of pre-training, and then some reinforcement learning …”

“We think that the phone's just so dominant and it will be until we have the next generation, which is not going to be for five, you know, maybe some Orion type glasses that are cheap enough and like light enough, like that's going to take a long time before wi…”

“So my understanding is that the Orion headset is, like, multiple years out, and that when it arrives, it won't actually even be as good as the glasses that we tried on this year, because in order to make the cost work, they're just gonna have to, like, rip out…”

“By all accounts, I've heard Orion's amazing, but they're not going to release it any time. Like, there's no, Device coming. It's going to be a long time on the burn, and I think it's a totally different story in terms of what the progression is there.”

“Meta announced this Orion prototype. It costs 10 K to produce right now per unit, and it has like a, like maybe a two hour battery life.”

“Like, I think there will be a moment in human history where we look back and go, that was weird that we were all hunched over these, like, black rectangles all day.”

“I think it's going to be further than Zuck, you know, predicts. I think that my take is, it's going to be maybe, 20, 35, twenty-forty.”

“And then conversely, what they would see is your codec avatar. And we've really fooled some people with the codec avatars. When they've seen the codec avatar call in they don't realize it's a codec avatar. They think it's a real, an image.”

“Motorola is a strategic investor in Orion.”