Caitlin Kalinowski
Board Director, Axon · 1 appearance on the record.
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Caitlin Kalinowski led AR glasses and VR hardware at Meta's Reality Labs before building OpenAI's robotics hardware team. Earlier in her career, she worked as a technical lead and product design engineer at Apple on the MacBook Air and Mac Pro.
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The record, in short
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Kalinowski: Meta Orion’s waveguides and microLEDs are unready for mass production
“Orion, the air glasses we worked on, I worked on most recently are a bit ahead of their time because they're using waveguides and micro LEDs that are not quite ready for mass production. The yields just aren't there. The cost is still high.”
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Kalinowski: OpenAI lacked proper governance around its Department of Defense deal
“And I feel that what happened with the decision-making, the speed of the decision-making, the governance, and the lack of defined guardrails around the announcement of the Department of War deal is not how I thought it should have been done.”
Kalinowski: Digital AI will saturate and shift the frontier to hardware robotics
“What you can do behind a keyboard with AI is going to saturate. Now, I don't know when it's going to saturate. Nobody else knows either. But when that happens, the next frontier is the physical world.”
Kalinowski: Current humanoid robots are advanced prototypes unready for safe deployment
“So in my world, in my worldview, the humanoid robots are still prototypes. And they're advanced prototypes. What we need to do is show that this works at all, which is kind of where we're at right now. Once we have working prototypes, then usually, at least in…”
Kalinowski: Hardware memory prices will likely double due to supply shocks
“I think prices are gonna double, probably. I don't know on what timeline. If I knew what timeline the prices were gonna double on, I'd be trading, which I'm not very good at. Like, I'd really be, I'd do, be doing a different job if I could predict these things…”
Kalinowski: Hardware CAD automation requires AI world models to understand physics
“These LLMs and even video models, they don't know how to do that. They don't have the ability to understand friction or weight or contact pressure friction, surface texture. Like they're just not able to do these things. And this is the core of what we need. A…”
Kalinowski: Humanoids will only handle long-tail tasks while specialized robots dominate
“My suspicion is we'll have humanoids for some long tail things that we need to do that humans are currently doing. That will be important, but we'll also have robots that are for construction, robots that are for electrical work, robots that are for Very low v…”
Kalinowski: Home robots face tougher consumer adoption than autonomous vehicles
“There's a big difference between a car that is safer, that drives itself versus a car that a human drives, because you have an existence proof of the human driving car and you have the data. When you talk about homes, what is the delta? You have now a thing th…”
Kalinowski: World will not have 20 million robots within five years
“I'm not somebody who thinks that in five years, you're gonna have a you know, twenty million robots. I don't think that it's gonna be that fast. I think we have a lot of really deep work on supply chain.”
Kalinowski: Warfare will outpace consumer electronics innovation over the next two years
“I think there's probably more change in war than there is in consumer electronics in the next two years, for example.”
Kalinowski: Meta Orion’s waveguides and microLEDs are unready for mass production
“Orion, the air glasses we worked on, I worked on most recently are a bit ahead of their time because they're using waveguides and micro LEDs that are not quite ready for mass production. The yields just aren't there. The cost is still high.”
Kalinowski: Hardware teams only get to compile four or five times
“In hardware, we only get to compile our code, quote unquote, like four or five times. Total. Ever.”
Kalinowski: The US must invest significantly more in drones than aircraft carriers
“I think he's right to say that we need to invest a lot more in drones than in aircraft carriers.”
Kalinowski: Redesigning Quest 2 for cost created the best-selling VR headset
“And so what it required is a redesign Of the entire product essentially for cost, which then I think led to the highest selling VR headset of all time.”
Kalinowski: Top Chinese assembly lines have dropped from 200 to 10 workers
“When you really go and look at a modern manufacturing facility like in China, at the top tier of tier one suppliers, there's not very many people on the line anyway. The entire printed circuit board line is essentially got no people on it anymore. The raw boar…”
Kalinowski: Hardware giants will refuse to train AI on proprietary CAD data
“This CAD data is some of the most valuable IP that anybody has. And Samsung or Matic to pick on Matic, they're not gonna wanna give their three D CAD to a model vendor to model maker. Somebody make an AI model to teach it how to make great CAD. This is proprie…”
Kalinowski: Truly AI-native engineers are almost exclusively in their early twenties
“The only AI native people essentially
Who use AI so natively that it's like baked into their engineering process are 20 years old or 21 years old or 20. I mean, it's very hard to find someone who's in their thirties who can be truly fully AI native. And so we…”
Kalinowski: Frontier tech teams must still hire junior engineers alongside seniors
“I don't see it that way. I think we need them. I also think that we need to build new technologists. Like there's a, there's the obvious question of what happens if we don't have teams that were have senior and junior people. But I think what you find when you…”
Kalinowski: Physical AI and Robotics Will Rely on AR/VR Hardware Foundations
“The other part is there's this lineage of technology going through VR and then AR and now in, I'm using the term robotics, physical AI, but you really have to step back and look at autonomous vehicles, drones, obviously robots autonomy period, manufacturing, l…”
Kalinowski: US lacks great actuator companies to support domestic robotics manufacturing
“A lot of people are trying to move production here to the United States, which is very challenging because we don't have great actuator companies here yet, for example.”
Kalinowski: Drones and robot arms share the same base technology and supply chain
“You need essentially the same technology to make the rotor spin on a drone as you do to make an arm move on a robot. It's essentially the same base technology and supply chain.”
Kalinowski: I have chosen not to work on lethal technology
“I I've chosen not to work for companies that Create lethal technology.”
Kalinowski: Apple alumni excel because Apple trains for complex interdependent risk
“Apple also taught me and a lot of other people, actually, if you look at kind of the era that I was there, I was very, very lucky because if you look at the other folks who were there, I was there between oh seven and the end of 20 12. If you look at the other…”
Kalinowski: Mass-produced VR headsets are nowhere near retina display resolution
“So VR is not there yet. Not, not even close. So not in mass produced VR. We don't have retina displays yet.”
Kalinowski: Current AI models cannot generate true parametric solid CAD models
“Claude can do what is essentially surfaces or point clouds. This is not real CAD. Real CAD is in my world is dense. Like it has shape. It has nerves. Like you have an equation for how, how the surfaces work. And it's an entity that's designed in CAD. It's a so…”
Appearances (1)
| Episode | Date | Speaking time |
|---|---|---|
| Why the next AI boom is physical AI | Caitlin Kalinowski (ex-OpenAI, Meta, Apple) | May 17, 2026 | 1h 6m |