Caitlin Kalinowski, former hardware executive at Apple, Meta, and OpenAI, discusses why universal humanoid robots will not replace specialized automation in manufacturing and industry.
“My suspicion is we'll have humanoids for some long tail things that we need to do that humans are currently doing. That will be important, but we'll also have robots that are for construction, robots that are for electrical work, robots that are for Very low volume assembly, maybe robots for logistics. And most of them are gonna look different from each other.”
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