Orion

5 statements across 5 episodes · 1 bullish · 1 bearish · 4 people on the record · first statement Oct 4, 2024 by Andrew Bosworth · said 18 times in 8 episodes since 2024 · across every show →

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Oct 4, 2024 bullish
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Bosworth: Meta's Orion Codec Avatars Fooled Video Call Recipients
“And then conversely, what they would see is your codec avatar. And we've really fooled some people with the codec avatars. When they've seen the codec avatar call in they don't realize it's a codec avatar. They think it's a real, an image.”
Andrew Bosworth Oct 4, 2024 ▶ 3:06 Meta's Chief Technology Officer On Its Augmented Reality Dreams — With Andrew Bosworth
Jan 5, 2025 neutral
Prediction Open · timeframe Jan 2028
Newton: Meta Orion consumer glasses are years away and will be downgraded
“So my understanding is that the Orion headset is, like, multiple years out, and that when it arrives, it won't actually even be as good as the glasses that we tried on this year, because in order to make the cost work, they're just gonna have to, like, rip out…”
Casey Newton Jan 5, 2025 ▶ 20:51 Bold Predictions For Tech and AI in 2025 — With Casey Newton
Apr 23, 2025 negative
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Patel: OpenAI's Orion training run failed to reach GPT-5 performance levels
“There were hopes that Orion could be used for GPT-V but its improvement was, like, not enough to be, like, really a GPT-V. Furthermore, it was trained on the classical method, which is, like which is a ton of pre-training, and then some reinforcement learning …”
Dylan Patel Apr 23, 2025 ▶ 36:12 Generative AI 101: Tokens, Pre-training, Fine-tuning, Reasoning — With SemiAnalysis CEO Dylan Patel
Jun 11, 2026
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Himel: Meta began Orion AR development immediately following the Oculus acquisition
“At the time when we acquired Oculus, part of the rationale was there was a research division led by Michael Abrash that was looking at augmented reality technologies. Augmented reality translates into glasses and wearables. And right out of the gate, we starte…”
Alex Himel Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 41:11 Meta' Secret Plan To Kill The Smartphone — With Alex Himel
Jul 8, 2026 neutral
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Bosworth: Meta shelved Orion consumer launch due to unviable pricing
“Even though we couldn't get the price to be one that we felt comfortable launching as a consumer product, we did intent when we designed it and developed it was a consumer design and intention.”
Andrew Bosworth Jul 8, 2026 ▶ 30:47 Meta CTO Andrew Bosworth: Our Path To Frontier AI, Renting Models, Consumer AI's Struggles
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