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Mooney: Mangomint shuns Salesforce opportunities for account-level custom workflows
“You know, we could go into many paths here, but to the point where in Salesforce, I don't even use opportunities. I said that to a RevOps leader last night, and he just about keeled over. But you know, I realized for an organization like mine, our sales cycle …”
Benioff: Microsoft Used 'Dark' and 'Horrible' Tactics to Attack Slack
“You can see the horrible things that Microsoft did to Slack before we bought it. And yeah, that was pretty bad and they were running their playbook and did a lot of dark stuff. And it's all got in a written up in an EU complaint, but Slack made before we bough…”
Parker Conrad: Slack sold to Salesforce because Microsoft Teams was bundled free
“That's why Slack is owned by Salesforce now, because, like, Teams is free and the Microsoft bundle.”
Lemkin: Marc Benioff Is Repeating His Past Mistake by Cutting Sales
“I mean, Mark Benioff in his book wrote his biggest mistake in the last downturns was cutting sales. And what did he just do? Cut sales. So we're all, he's making them, he's making the same mistake three times.”
Salyers: SaaStr AI Agent Migrated 300 Campaigns in One Hour
“It literally took him an hour to move, like, 300 campaigns 10 years of data in those campaigns, right, of, like, who attended Sass Randall back in 2016. He moved them all into Salesforce on his own.”
Salyers: SaaStr Marketing Data Migration Cost Only $14.28 in AI Compute
“And then I looked at the cost and it was like, 14 dollars and 28 cents or whatever it was. And I was like, that's literally less than California minimum wage.”
Lemkin: Platforms managing hybrid human-agent teams will win; Marketo will lose
“I think Marketo is the loser here, but I think in a lot of cases, the leaders that are, that can manage a human agent interface are going to win because we need apps to manage hybrid teams.”
Lemkin: 99% of successful GTM agents are optimized around Salesforce
“In GTM, I think, 99% of the agents that are working today, that are successfully are optimized around Salesforce.”
Lemkin: All third-party AI agents are less secure than Salesforce
“The honest truth is no agents, no third party agents are more secure than Salesforce. They're all less secure is the reality of it.”
Lemkin: Mediocre Vertical SaaS Apps Risk Losing Customers Permanently to Vibe Coding
“I think there is a risk for folks building vertical apps, building niche apps. You should not build an agent if you can buy it or an app, but if you fall behind too far folks may build it out of frustration. And that's more what we did rather than try to cance…”
Lemkin: Vibe coding cannot build Salesforce, only demo-day prototypes
“You're not going to VibeCode Salesforce for real, but you know what you can VibeCode? Something for demo day that looks really good.”
Lemkin: Agentforce takes more setup work but outperforms in production
“Asian force is more work to set up than the rest of the agents, but it is good or better in production. It is as good because they're all good. Okay. All the good ones are good. They're all kind of the same. The emails are pretty similar, right? It is better b…”
Lemkin: SaaStr pays more for AI agents than for Salesforce itself
“The tough part is we pay more for those agents than we pay for Salesforce, which is an existential question that Mark and his team are thinking about because yes, Salesforce is more valuable, but the agents are even more valuable than Salesforce. So Salesforce…”
Lemkin: Enterprise Demand for Salesforce's Agentforce is Just Getting Started
“I'm not telling you to go buy public stocks, but I'd be long on Salesforce, even if the market wasn't true this year, because it's just getting going with the spike. The demand is just getting going.”
Lemkin: Salesforce Replaced Up to 4,000 Support Staff With Internal AI
“You know, Mark Benioff said, even at Salesforce, they're growing, they're adding more headcount in sales and marketing, but I think he's, I know the numbers, I think three or 4000 folks in support, they already replaced with AI and their own AI and support Cog…”
Lemkin: AI is shrinking software competitive advantages from years to months
“It's not that we're going to rebuild workday in Salesforce and Oracle, but our competitive edges are going to be measured in months. And when they used to be years and that compounds that compounds. And if you can't run at that pace, I don't see how you're goi…”
Queener: Customers make great PMs for agentic software solving pure pain points
“What is interesting now in a world, which you're not building screens, but you're solving problems, as long as you're smarter customers, at least they're actually very good product managers. They're giving you use cases or pain points that I want you to solve …”
Lemkin: Vibe coding apps like Salesforce in 10 minutes is dangerous bologna
“There's a lot of stuff on social media about, Hey, you can just vibe code your own HubSpot or Salesforce. You can vibe code your own notion. It will take. 10 minutes. That's Sony baloney. And it is almost dangerous Sony baloney because it's not just startups t…”
Benioff: Salesforce Will Demonstrate AI Agents Integrating Into Physical Robots
“And that fourth layer is going to be the robotic layer, but it needs the other three layers to operate because the agents are going to get manifested into these robots. So that will be a keep next step. And we'll see that by dream force. I'm sure.”
Benioff: Establishing a Standalone Enterprise AI Budget Is a Mistake
“I think that where there was an AI budget, that was a mistake. And that where it should be is like, you should be holding, at least this is what I do. I should be holding our service team accountable. Our sales team should be held accountable for that. And tha…”
Lemkin: SaaS vendors promise AI can cut 30% to 50% of staff
“Everyone in post sales, Salesforce, Intercom, Zendesk, Gorgeous, on and on. They are promising you can eliminate. 30 to 50% of your humans in support with AI. They're promising it today.”
Bendov: Marc Benioff and Salesforce need better conversion, not 3x more pipeline
“Salesforce, by the way, doesn't need three X more pipeline. They need a better conversion. Just advice to Mark.”
Benioff dismissed early Zendesk threats to Salesforce to avoid fear-based leadership
“I did a year at Salesforce in the middle of all that, and I was mentioning Zendesk. I was like, hey, there's these guys called Zendesk, and they might be a problem for, like, our customer service business and I got the kind of uh-oh moment where, like, oh, and…”
Liu: Airtable targets Salesforce App Cloud and ServiceNow for enterprise apps
“We want to position ourselves against the Salesforce app clouds and ServiceNow deployments out there. So really robust applications within large enterprises that now, you know, can be built in a much more agile and connected way with Airtable.”
Lemkin: EchoSign listed 20 fake integrations to gauge demand before building
“When we launched back in the, Adobe Sign, he put 20 integrations on our marketing site, of which we did none. Now other people do this. He's like, well, I'm not sure people want a Salesforce integration back then, but I'll make a page that says we have it, and…”
Bedecarre: Apple, Meta, Salesforce, and Slack back in offices by April 2022
“Big tech, you know, that Apple, Salesforce, Facebook, Meta you know, Slack all of these companies are kind of targeting over the next couple months, but by April, they will all be back.”
Box CRO: Microsoft and Salesforce will win enterprise SaaS consolidation waves
“Well, I think that the extra large vendors will benefit big time as they did in the client server era. And so if you think about the number one and the number two cloud investments at the app layer, not the infrastructure layer that organizations are making at…”
Deeter: Cloud leaders are superseding FAANG as tech growth drivers
“Our thesis internally is that those horizons and the growth rates of those markets are starting to pull back, and that you see a changing of the guard. And it's really the cloud basket, and we pulled out six names in particular with Microsoft, Twilio, Shopify,…”
Legacy CRM competitors cannot offer freemium due to software complexity
“Like if one of those companies wanted to do freemium, it would fall down on itself because it's hard to stand that darn thing up. It's really hard to use really hard to set up.”
Roberge: Why Big-Company Sales Reps Fail Under Technical Founders
“When you're two engineering-based founders bringing in that first salesperson, geez, that guy showed up at Oracle or Salesforce or wherever it was. He went through a month of training how to handle the top 20 objections. That process is not built. And if you d…”
Qualified's AI inbound agent booked 682 meetings for SaaStr, outperforming human BDRs
“I didn't know until Amelia presented the data this morning. I think it set up like 682 meetings. That is better than any BDR I've ever worked with could do.”
Marc Benioff told Lemkin he wished Salesforce customers only paid after deployment
“And I said to Mark, what do you think about FTEs? And he stopped and he said, I can't do this, but I wish every single customer at Salesforce had an FTE and did not have to pay me. Until they were deployed. That's what he wanted in the authentic age.”
Blond: GTM Agent Market Will Consolidate Into Single All-in-One Platforms
“Philosophically we believe that the like direction of the market is that you just want one vendor in one vendor is your inbound agent, your outbound agent, your insights. And it is all of your agents living on one data plane with full access to all of the info…”
Lemkin: Benioff Stated Envy of Palantir's Deal Size and FDE Model
“When Mark Benioff came on the TwentyVC with me and Maureen Harry, he said, my number one wish, my number one thing I'm jealous of Palantir's is one, their deal size. But two, I wish I could give everyone an FDE before I had to charge them.”
Lemkin: Marc Benioff has 2,000 Salesforce employees building Agentforce
“That's why Asian force has to win. That's why Mark has 2000 people working on it.”
Lemkin: Sierra grew from $1M to $100M revenue in a year
“Sierra just said they went from one to a hundred million in a year. Brett Taylor, ex, you know, ex CTO of Facebook, co-CO of Salesforce, just going out to people and saying, you can replace a lot of your support teams with AI.”
Marc Benioff Is Envious of Palantir's Forward Deployed Engineering Model
“He said, this is the number one thing he was jealous of Palantir was one of it was how, how, how, how well they charge their customers, but he was most jealous of what they've done in forward deployed engineers. He said, what I would love at Salesforce is that…”
Lemkin: Vibe-coding cannot replace complex SaaS platforms like Salesforce
“There's no way you're going to build an artisan, a Salesforce, a gamma. You could build the little bits of it. I mean, there's just no way there's too many man hours”
Lemkin: Drift security breach leaked Salesforce data from Cloudflare and Zscaler
“Poor drift, which sales off bot and Clary bot had a massive security breach and leaked cloudflare security data Z scalers, I mean, Salesforce data, cloudflare, Salesforce data, Z scalers, Salesforce data, tons of the cloud leader Salesforce data was all leaked…”
Norton: Owner increased rep selling time by 25% to 30% via automation
“We've, we're probably up 25 to 30% in terms of the revenue generating activity time because they don't have to fill out CRM after. They don't have to update the notes for the launch team. It's all done.”
Benioff: About 5,000 companies are implementing Agentforce
“There's about 5000 companies who are implementing AgentForce”
Benioff Uses an AI Agent to Author Salesforce's Strategy Documents
“And now for almost three years, when I write a V-to-mom, one, I always have a Salesforce executive with me. And two, I now have an agent with me as well.”
Lemkin: SaaS Startups Should Not Add Sales Friction Before Massive Scale
“I'm going to argue until you're at mass scale, until you're at the Salesforce scale, don't add any friction to the sales process. There is an argument when you're at hundreds of millions of revenue to add friction. There is an argument that friction itself is …”
Zinman: HubSpot captured the SMB market because Salesforce moved upmarket
“Eventually you abandon the mid-market SMB segment, and then you have this huge vacuum. You leave a huge vacuum in the market. I think to some extent, I'm not an expert, but that will happen with Salesforce and HubSpot. Salesforce moved up market in a way. HubS…”
Lemkin: EchoSign's first VP of sales hired 9 reps who closed zero deals
“And then I hired my first VP of sales from Salesforce. He hired 10 people, all of them, except Sam Blonde, who had done a lot with them, became Brex. All of them, all the other nine closed nothing. And with 10 people, that VP of sales closed less than me and J…”
Lemkin: Per-seat pricing was under 50% of SaaS revenue historically
“And it turns out going back to the beginning per seat was less than 50% of the SaaS revenue. When you add in API pricing, other pricing, just because we think everyone talks about blah, blah, blah, Salesforce, it doesn't mean it's most of software. And so it's…”