churn

17 statements across 11 episodes · 6 bullish · 5 bearish · 11 people on the record · first statement Jul 26, 2017 by Mark Roberge · across every show →

Everything said about churn, oldest first

Jul 26, 2017 positive
Assertion Supported
Roberge: HubSpot Churn Dropped 70% After Restructuring Sales Compensation
“And churn dropped by like 70% in six months.”
Mark Roberge Jul 26, 2017 ▶ 16:07 Sales Mistakes that Can Kill Your SaaS Business & How to Avoid Them
Oct 9, 2018 positive
Insight
Hale: Detractors predict churn, advocacy predicts growth, and purchasing questions predict ARPU
“NPS is really great because it helps you predict where churn is. It's, it, you know, if you have, ah, detractors, it's really, it helps you identify who's gonna churn. Advocacy really helps drive, you know, this is, would you recommend this product or service.…”
Tom Hale Oct 9, 2018 ▶ 9:29 SurveyMonkey's Secrets to Keeping Customers Happy for 20 Years
Jul 24, 2019 positive
Insight
Tying Sales Compensation to Churn Forces Discipline Around Ideal Customers
“By being responsible for churn, they're gonna do what they can to sell into the right ICP that's not gonna churn, and keep that customer whole so that they have to sell less new bookings.”
Theresa O'Neil Jul 24, 2019 ▶ 17:31 "Aligning Sales, Marketing, and CS to Scale Revenue and Retention" Theresa O'Neil, Showpad CMO
Aug 1, 2019 negative
Disclosure
Egnyte considers customers below 85% adoption within nine months a churn risk
“So we measure adoption, and we measure adoption three months from sale, six months from sale, nine months from sale. If you're not 85% or so consumed of the services that you purchased, Then we got alarm bells going off and trying to figure out how to rectify …”
Rajesh Ram Aug 1, 2019 ▶ 16:31 "Land, Expand, Explode: How to Win the Long-Game in SaaS" Egnyte Co-Founder Rajesh Ram
Aug 1, 2019
Insight
The greatest SaaS churn occurs in the first months post-sale
“The greatest churn happens in those first few months after you've sold something, because you haven't delivered on that promise.”
Rajesh Ram Aug 1, 2019 ▶ 13:39 "Land, Expand, Explode: How to Win the Long-Game in SaaS" Egnyte Co-Founder Rajesh Ram
Jan 10, 2021 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kellogg: PE firms recalculate all SaaS metrics from raw data
“In the VC side, frankly, I don't see as much recalculation, but when you meet PE people, they will literally take all your financials and just recalculate everything. You know, you're going to say your churn is, you know, only 10%. They're like, well, we'll fi…”
Dave Kellogg Jan 10, 2021 ▶ 19:37 Churn is dead. Long live Net Dollar Retention Rate with Dave Kellogg | SaaStr Software Community
Jan 10, 2021 negative
Insight
Kellogg: ARR is a fact while churn rates are an opinion
“There's a semi-famous quote that but cash is a fact, profit is an opinion. I feel the same way about ARR and churn, that ARR is a fact churn, And churn rates are an opinion.”
Dave Kellogg Jan 10, 2021 ▶ 30:29 Churn is dead. Long live Net Dollar Retention Rate with Dave Kellogg | SaaStr Software Community
Jan 10, 2021 positive
Insight
Kellogg: Net dollar retention measures customer base health better than churn
“Net dollar retention, which I think is actually a more effective way to get at what churn is trying to measure.”
Dave Kellogg Jan 10, 2021 ▶ 0:30 Churn is dead. Long live Net Dollar Retention Rate with Dave Kellogg | SaaStr Software Community
Jan 14, 2021 neutral
Disclosure
Willey: ForgeRock treats contract reductions lasting over six months as formal churn
“How, how we typically look at it is if there's a temporary reduction for a short period of time, let's say within, within the six month period, as long as at the end of that period, the customer is, is effectively renewing the full amount and kind of go get, g…”
Tim Willey Jan 14, 2021 ▶ 22:14 10 Rules for Defining Churn with ForgeRock and Solarwinds | SaaStr Software Community
Jan 14, 2021
Insight
Willey: Short-term contract extensions at full run-rate do not count as churn
“Even if the customer is just renewing for one extra month, as long as they're renewing at the full ARR value, there shouldn't be any churn.”
Tim Willey Jan 14, 2021 ▶ 20:26 10 Rules for Defining Churn with ForgeRock and Solarwinds | SaaStr Software Community
Jan 14, 2021 neutral
Disclosure
Webb: SolarWinds uses varied churn grace periods ranging from real-time to months
“In our case, we have different timing across different business units. One of our business units uses three months. One of our business units uses 30 days. And the other one is more of a real time whether we take, take churn on it or not, and then classify it …”
Andrea Webb Jan 14, 2021 ▶ 23:06 10 Rules for Defining Churn with ForgeRock and Solarwinds | SaaStr Software Community
Jan 14, 2021 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Willey: Lack of standardized SaaS churn accounting will face increasing industry scrutiny
“And unfortunately there isn't right now, you know, Gemini accept the counted principles for how to define churn. So I think it's going to be one of those things that as more and more businesses become cloud orientated, SAS orientated, ultimately customer succe…”
Tim Willey Jan 14, 2021 ▶ 35:10 10 Rules for Defining Churn with ForgeRock and Solarwinds | SaaStr Software Community
Feb 16, 2023
Insight
Fox: Brex customers using competitor products were most likely to churn
“The customers that were most likely to churn were those customers that were still using other competitor products, right? So they were using other credit cards. They were using other bank accounts. And we realized that when we would speak to these customers, t…”
Lucas Fox Feb 16, 2023 ▶ 20:56 SaaStr CRO Confidential: Brex GM of Startups Lucas Fox on Customer Retention and Expansion
Aug 3, 2023 negative
Insight
Zinman: Multi-year contracts can mask looming churn waves in hyper-growth SaaS
“And let's say you in hyper growth and sign a lot of revenue into two or three year contract, you know, you might find out in three years that you have a huge churn wave coming up that you didn't predict.”
Eran Zinman Aug 3, 2023 ▶ 23:32 The Most Important SaaS Metrics with Monday.com Co-Founders and SaaStr Founder Jason Lemkin
Sep 27, 2024 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Plank: Rippling tied AM comp to retention and massively beat churn baselines
“And we're going to actually tie comp to retention as a number. And like, just dramatically changed the behavior and the impact and results this year. Like our baseline of churn and from the account management org is like just a number that we just massively be…”
Matt Plank Sep 27, 2024 ▶ 35:27 The Revenue Playbook: Rippling’s Top 3 Growth Tactics at Scale with Rippling CRO Matt Plank
Mar 7, 2025 negative
Insight
Lemkin: Harder Offboarding Makes Purchasing Software Far More Stressful
“And the harder it is to leave, man, the more stressful it is to buy.”
Jason Lemkin Mar 7, 2025 ▶ 1:32 Why I’m Scared to Buy New SaaS Apps Now with SaaStr CEO and Founder Jason Lemkin
Aug 25, 2025 negative
Insight
Lemkin: Top-producing SMB sales reps often cause the highest churn
“He put the data in Snowflake, and he's like, okay, let me compare that to churn. And he found out the very best sales reps in the SMB motion had the highest churn, because they were shoving deals down the pipe. And so actually, none of the best reps were his b…”
Jason Lemkin Aug 25, 2025 ▶ 12:31 From PLG to Enterprise to SMB: Insights from Calendly's CEO Tope Awotona
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