Siri

“Siri is not gonna blow anyone away who's been day-to-day living with OpenAI and Anthropa and Claude but it's certainly gonna be good enough for the masses, and I think that they're gonna get some new experiences that those are not as versed in AI that they'll …”

“Well, and this is one of those devices that's apparently been on hold forever because AI wasn't ready, right? Siri was so bad that they had to postpone the release of this and maybe a few other devices, including new versions of the HomePod and Apple TV.”

“But I think it's going to be good, but it's going to feel not nearly as powerful as Town or GrokBot. Like it's not even going to be there in terms of its capabilities, but it'll be on your phone. It'll be convenient. You'll be able to like enable more data wit…”

“I don't think the new Siri is going to be that. So I'm just like not a believer in Apple for that reason.”

“They put the person on Vision Pro on Siri and he fixed it. Wait, Mike Rockwell.”

“I think it's gonna work. I think that the bar was also so low that they have to just show a little incremental progress, and everyone's gonna be like, wow, they did it, and I think that's absolutely what's gonna happen. They will clear the bar.”

“I would expect that actually a lot of people switch to using this or actually that it's their first experience with advanced AI in their everyday life.”

“Siri being what it is, is a disgrace”

“I just hope, I want them to, I don't think they can.”

“It's surprising how Siri for, Siri or iMessage, for example, have been so impossibly slow to keep pace with what appear to be things that AI startups with 10 or 12 people have been extraordinarily successful at, like text to speech or speech to text. Granola, …”

“The ChatGPT integration into Siri was one of the single worst product experiences I have ever seen. It was so clunky bad that, like, if a Series A startup put out something like that, I would be ashamed of it.”

“They, let me just say they had iPhone sales grow 21.7%. They don't have AI on the iPhone. Siri sucks. It's just the counterpoint to what we've been saying. They had quarterly sales of a 101 hundred and eleven billion.”

“They have obviously the deal in place with Google to use Gemini and Gemini is going to underpin You know, the Siri models and now the new reports that they're going to allow other third parties potentially to come in there, including obviously they've already…”

“Well listen, Apple still has Siri, and Siri is dumb as a doorknob.”

“It sounds more realistic, but again, it doesn't cross that threshold of actually sounding like a human and actually making you feel something.”

“The real opportunity is something more around audio interfaces, link it to Siri, have more ways to triangulate what the person's trying to say, what they're saying in a noisy environment, whether they're trying to be quiet and you still want to isolate what th…”

“Apple plans to revamp Siri later this year by turning the digital assistant into the company's first artificial intelligence chatbot, thrusting the iPhone maker into a generative AI race dominated by OpenAI on Google. The chatbot, codenamed Kempos, will be emb…”

“No one is gonna book a ticket, let AI book the ticket for them for a long time.”

“Estimates are around five hundred million active Siri users globally, which is huge, but there's 1.5 billion iPhone users, so Having only a third of your user base use your AI feature seems a little bit low, if that's the case.”

“I think that Siri will need an app. I think that the LLM chat interface is so dominant at this point that everyone has the experience of Going back and forth asynchronously, like it's chatting to a helpful assistant, like you're texting with a friend.”

“We're going from like a D tier product to now we're baking in a new model, Gemini, which is going to take it to like B tier.”

“Then there are a billion consumers in the world who would suddenly have access to not just one self-preference Siri, but a variety of American labs. And that would open up investment. That would open up prosperity.”

“Apple's currently hiring 300 Siri focus roles.”

“I mean, Google, I don't think Google or OpenAI could deliver the Siri demo that Apple gave two years ago. I mean, they could really do the demo, but they couldn't like consistently reliably make it work.”

“Google and Apple are doing a Siri deal, so Siri is going to be powered by Gemini, essentially, until, until Apple, quote, figures it out, but it, there seems to be this pattern here of Apple realizing Google is, is pretty good at this stuff, and they'll be pre…”

“The big AI thing for Apple is the revamped Siri coming out in the spring. They're using a Google Gemini model to power it, which I think is going to make it pretty top tier.”

“I don't think they're gonna make a name change, but they should.”

“Apple is paying Google.”

“You can also bet, at some point, they'll probably figure out their own model to replace the Google thing, so I don't think it's a long-term bet.”

“Anthropic wanted multiples of billions. I believe starting in a billion in year one and doubling every year thereafter, at least for the next three years.”

“They're not taking that away. They're not taking it away.”

“What they haven't talked about Is AI web search. And so the new Siri is also going to have a chat GPT perplexity competitor for things like deep research and summarizing search. That is going to be an Apple built, an Apple powered system.”

“When this new Siri starts working, when it has those upgraded technologies that mean that I can call an Uber for my phone and know that it's actually going to happen, then they'll be able to come to those financial agreements because people are going to start …”

“Siri is just as bad as it was in 2015.”

“If you sign into your ChatGPT account the Siri integration will actually use your subscription status to decide what type of model to use when it passes things over to ChatGPT. And so if you're you know just a free user you get, you know, the free model. But i…”

“Having Gemini integrated into the like system layer of the phone is so different Than trying to use Siri.”

“Apple I will admit, they, I have lost faith. Like, the demos they did with Siri two, a year and a half ago now, or two, a year ago, like, I don't, until I actually see the live translation in action working well, I just don't believe that it's real.”

“The company's reached a formal agreement this week for Apple to evaluate and test a Google developed AI model to help power the voice assistant.”

“Apple has been leaning towards using a custom built Google Gemini model for the summarizer. And it's also considering using a Google model for the planner function as well.”

“And the other one is Anthropic, which, you know, was going to charge so much money that it seems like it potentially lost this deal based off of, The cash.”

“During the development of the tabletop robot, Apple engineers have made heavy use of ChatGPT and Google Gemini to build and test features. Within Apple AI and Siri Teams as a whole, software developers are increasingly using third-party systems as part of thei…”

“They've got to replace Siri with something else, whether it be ChatGPT, or Claude, or Google Gemini, or one of the other products, because this is just really table stakes stuff that they should, you know, they've been working on Siri for 15 plus years”

“One of the reasons that I would worry about Apple going forward is they don't have the right internal mentality about doing this stuff, and you can see it in the sort of products that they've shipped to date, specifically, obviously, with Siri, Where they're c…”

“I think that's actually a fine strategy, but only if your AI works really well. And well, the state of Siri the actual ship stuff over the past 15 or so years suggests that it doesn't. They have to get their AI house in order and catch up”

“They're never gonna kill Siri. They're gonna, like, ride Siri to the grave.”

“They're just sort of not talking about it because they literally can't right now because they had to rejigger the whole team. They have to sort of, if not completely start over from scratch, at least sort of look at everything from, you know, starting over fro…”

“OpenAI already did it, and so either Apple just, you know, fully, more fully bakes it in, which I still think, by the way, they should probably do with Siri while they rebuild Siri, right? Just totally outsource it to ChatGPT.”

“There was like a trap with Siri and Alexa, which was that natural language processing worked, so you thought it was AI, and it wasn't. It was actually still just an IVR, it was still just a tree.”

“I would assume the latter.”

“They're not AGI filled enough, you know, like if you treat it like another feature well, I mean, even if you treat it like another feature, it's like mysterious why Siri doesn't work on my phone, but like, it's like more people basically. And if you take that …”

“Two years is like, you know, as other people have pointed out, two years in an AI world is an eternity. You might as well say I'm delaying something for 20 years or, you know, like two generations at this point. It's crazy. And so I think that's a serious prob…”

“My theory, which I think was borne out, was like, that maybe the kids wouldn't be weirded out by it in the same way that adults are, because they've grown up with Synthetic voices. Like, they've heard Siri. They've heard Google giving directions. Like, all tha…”

“Apple intelligence cannot find our flight information in our email when you ask Siri, which they pitched us as agentic, and that's my momentary Apple intelligence bashing”

“When we first created Siri, our vision was very specific. It was a do engine. For, instead of a search engine. And what we meant by a do engine was Understand a person's intent, a request to do something. It always had to be a request to do something. Buy me a…”

“Apple purchased Siri Steve Jobs, and they, in 2010, they took Siri as it was and reinvented it for the Apple purposes, so that would access Apple Calendar, Apple Mail, All of those things.”

“And Siri is the beginning of what will evolve over time into agentic sort of interfaces for humans.”

“Parents didn't want to give their kids phones for obvious reasons and so the compromise position was an Apple Watch. And the thing that Apple Watch has is, like, obviously, like, the screen is, like, it's really hard to do anything on the screen, so kids just …”

“And I think it's not going to be too long until we see Apple build a product like this of their own, if not one with an enhanced Siri to hit one of your most favorite things.”

“The AI thing has been really, really difficult for Apple, in my opinion, because they're two years behind ChatGPT. Like, the day ChatGPT came out, They should have ripped out Siri and had an LLM replace it in terms of just like what consumers would want.”

“I think Apple will eventually dial it in. I mean, the tech is just so good at this point, it's, like, really easy, and they have a bunch of interesting ways to integrate with all the data in your phone, so you'll just be able to talk to Siri more”