Convertible Note

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31 statements about Convertible Note, every show

TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Despite raising $7M, Kukun has never raised a priced equity round
“We never did a price valuation. We did convertible notes. so beyond that, I have not really pulled any money in the last four years, three years.”
Raph Howery Jan 21, 2026 ▶ 22:44 Bootstrapping to $5M ARR: How Kukun Scales SaaS for Banks and Fintechs
THE PITCH Insight
Convertible notes are debt; founders must ensure they mandate equity conversion
“Technically a convertible note actually is debt. It is technically an IOU, and sometimes there's this option to take your money back plus interest, and that can often harm the company if, you know, you're raising a lot on convertible notes. So I think the deta…”
Elizabeth Yin Mar 4, 2025 ▶ 23:24 #98 Hello! You’ve Reached The Pitch Helpline
THE PITCH Insight
Stacking convertible notes often causes unanticipated and severe equity dilution
“It can often feel like free money until it converts, and then you're trying to figure out all these notes with different caps, and different discount rates, and different interest accrued. Yeah. And all of a sudden you realize you sold off more of your company…”
Hunter Walk Mar 4, 2025 ▶ 24:43 #98 Hello! You’ve Reached The Pitch Helpline
THE PITCH Disclosure
Edwards: NARA raised $1.5M on an $11M valuation cap convertible note
“The terms that we've raised 1.5 on to date are 25 K minimum and eleven million pre money value cap.”
Georgia Grace Edwards Jul 10, 2024 ▶ 12:38 "From Dorm Room to Patented Zipper Technology: A Licensing Revenue Model in the Making"
20VC Assertion Supported
Hulme: Priced rounds are declining as founders avoid valuation write-downs
“Oh, I think we're seeing that firstly price rounds are less common because people aren't willing to accept the new and fair valuation. So you get convertible notes.”
Tom Hulme May 8, 2024 ▶ 7:16 Tom Hulme: Lessons from a 24x Angel Track Record, 275x on Robinhood & Making Billions on Uber |E1150 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
FOUNDER'S JOURNAL Assertion Partly supported
Lieberman: Morning Brew raised only one $750K round from 28 angels
“The nice thing about Morning Brew is we only raised one round of funding ever. We raised 750 K on a convertible note while we were it was actually right after I quit my job at Morgan Stanley and we raised from 28 individual investors. There's 28 individual che…”
Alex Lieberman Dec 15, 2023 ▶ 14:16 What I’m Doing Differently as a 2nd Time Founder
Allouche: Raising capital on convertible notes is super easy even in downturns
“It's super, super easy, especially when the market is hot, but even when it's not, super easy to raise on convertible note.”
Gil Allouche May 1, 2023 ▶ 18:44 How to recession-proof your SaaS: 3 keys to surviving just about any economic downturn
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Fischer: Swiss convertible notes are typically limited to just $25k
“In Switzerland, when you use notes, it's rather very small notes, like 20 to 25,000. So you would have to raise a lot of notes and that makes it very complicated.”
Nadia Fischer Apr 3, 2022 ▶ 5:08 Language Optimization SaaS Hits $23k MRR in 6 Months, 9 FTE's, $3m Valuation
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Supported
Yeomans: Atombeam crowdfunded via convertible note with $10M cap
“It was a cap and a, on a convertible note and the cap was 10.”
Charles Yeomans Nov 20, 2021 ▶ 6:08 How this SaaS Raised $2.4m Crowdfunding at $10m Valuation
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Supported
QuantHub raised a $1.25M convertible note in July 2018
“We raised we raised the note round early on in our existence in July of 18. That was a 1.25 million”
Matt Cowell Sep 26, 2021 ▶ 9:58 Quanthub Helps you Hire Engineers, Raised $2m on $8m Valuation, On Track to Break $1m ARR
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
SalesScreen Raised an Uncapped Convertible Note Ahead of Upcoming Growth Round
“And then we did a convertible note this year, just getting up to a bigger round. No, I was only on a discount on the next round.”
Sindre Haaland Jun 14, 2021 ▶ 13:29 Gong Competitor: "We'll Raise at a $120m Valuation" after breaking $6m in ARR
Tringas: Traditional convertible notes and SAFEs fail profitable, non-fundraising startups
“Most of the early stage instruments, convertible notes and safes really are orientated around the idea that you will raise another round. And if you don't raise another round, They either do stuff that's, you know, not great, like accumulate interest indefinit…”
Tyler Tringas Jul 8, 2020 ▶ 55:10 Tyler Tringas: How Earnest Capital Hopes to Re-Invent Startup Investing
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Trainual's convertible note blocked repayment once the startup hit revenue thresholds
“So we had an interesting trigger in our convertible note where once we hit a certain revenue threshold, the ability for me to pay back went away.”
Chris Ronzio Jun 19, 2020 ▶ 7:33 Trainual Hits $3m ARR, 3x YoY Helping 2500 Customers Document Key Processes
20VC Insight
Ralston: Debt notes were poorly suited for early-stage angel investing
“Debt was not a great model for this. It was sort of an accidental thing that were, that was used for bridge rounds, and it wasn't really meant for angel, for equity investing, and that's why we moved from convertible notes to safes.”
Geoff Ralston May 27, 2019 ▶ 25:45 20VC: Y Combinator's New President, Geoff Ralston on The Single Most Important Perspective An Investor Can Provide A Founder, The Biggest Lessons From Working Alongside Paul Graham & Why You Will Lose As An Investor If You "Profile Invest"
Y COMBINATOR Disclosure
Ralston: Y Combinator no longer recommends startups use convertible notes
“And a convertible note is a kind of debt as well, although we don't recommend you use convertible notes anymore.”
Geoff Ralston Oct 10, 2018 ▶ 13:06 Fundraising Fundamentals By Geoff Ralston · Y Combinator
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Linnanvuo notes that convertible notes are uncommon in Helsinki
“Convertible notes are not common here.”
Sami Linnanvuo Sep 19, 2018 ▶ 14:47 1152 How Screenful monopolized Trello marketplace to drive $15k in MRR
Liu advises founders against stacking multiple unconverted rolling notes
“Which is tricky, and I would not recommend it for other folks, which is why when I raised my money for the biotech company afterwards, we only took in one investor.”
Nancy Liu Jun 5, 2018 ▶ 14:56 1046 She Controls WeWork TV Screens, Passes $4.8m ARR
TOP FOUNDERS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Luke Beatty Predicts the Era of Open Convertible Notes Is Ending
“I think that's also starting to the sun's setting on a little bit of those sort of open note raises”
Luke Beatty Apr 13, 2018 ▶ 3:03 993 The Argument For Buildling a Product For Yourself First, $6.5m in Funding Later...
20VC Opinion
Waxman: Convertible notes make absolutely no sense for multi-million dollar rounds
“But when you get into a multi-million dollar round, I think that convertible notes make absolutely no sense at all.”
David Waxman Nov 29, 2017 ▶ 11:21 20VC: Why Convertible Notes Are Ridiculous, Why Party Rounds Are Bad For Both Founder and Investor & Why Pro-Rata Rights Are A Mess with David Waxman, Founding Partner @ TenOneTen Ventures
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
SAFEs and convertible notes are the new wave of investing
“I like them a lot. I think actually this is the new wave of investing.”
Elizabeth Yin Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 22:50 20VC: Why VCs Fundamentally Assess Founders The Wrong Way, Why VC Needs To Innovate On The Scouting Model & Why SAFE's and Convertible Notes Are The Future Of Investing with Elizabeth Yin, Founder & General Partner @ Hustle Fund
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Mariana IQ raised a $2M seed note at a $6M cap
“It was a convertible note round. Two million note was what we issued.”
Venkat Nagaswamy Sep 5, 2017 ▶ 8:19 773: Can $1m MRR Company Grow Into $10m Post Money Valuation?
20VC Opinion
Convertible notes and SAFEs are like alcohol: use only in moderation
“Oh, they're okay, but it's kind of like alcohol, and it should only be used in moderation.”
Phil Black Sep 4, 2017 ▶ 19:19 20VC: True Ventures Founder, Phil Black on 4 Major Risk Categories for Startups, Why The Funding Gap Is At The "Rational B" Round & Why VCs Must Start Small But Think Big
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Astronomer Raised $1.1M on Convertible Notes Across Four Separate Rounds
“1.1 million. Priced. Yeah, yeah. No, no, it was a convertible note. So we've actually done like four rounds of notes, which is something shocking to me.”
Ry Walker Apr 3, 2017 ▶ 10:31 EP 618: Astronomer.io 2 Yrs Old, Hits $60K MRR, $2m Raised Helping Companies Makes Sense of Data with CEO Ry Walker
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Chad Newell: Snapwire has never done a priced round
“In Snapwire's world, we raised venture debt, so convertible notes. We have never done a price round.”
Chad Newell Nov 20, 2016 ▶ 13:10 EP 484: $7M Raised with StartEngine CEO and CrowdFunding SnapWire CEO
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Cirrus Insight raised approximately $1.15M total via convertible notes
“About 1.15 million or so.”
Brandon Bruce Sep 5, 2016 ▶ 12:23 Cirrius Insights $640K MRR 100,000 Customers
Fredrickson: Founders should price early rounds and treat current cash as last
“If you can price something and price it now, it gives you something to work from and gives you more stability because you never know when your next financing round is going to come. And you should always assume that you're on your own with the cash you have al…”
Julie Fredrickson Aug 19, 2016 ▶ 2:59 EP 391: Why Gary V Led $1.5M Round In This Cosmetics Company
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
SidelineSwap is raising a $1.5M convertible note
“We're raising about 1.5 million on a note.”
Brendan Candon Jul 18, 2016 ▶ 11:53 EP 359: Hit $2m Revenue Buy/Sell Other Athelets Gear On Cheap with Brendan Candon of SidelineSwap.com
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Simply Insight raised on a convertible note with zero discount and interest
“No, it's a little bit more simple than that, so we're just doing a cap and no discount, no interest.”
Amanda Parker Jul 9, 2016 ▶ 12:19 EP 350: Toronto Based SaaS Doing $25k MRR with 10 Clients with Amanda Parker
Latka: It has never been a better time to start a company
“It's never been a better time to start a company. I mean, if you're like a little smart and you have kind of an idea, preferably a problem you're solving for yourself, it's never been better because the fact that angels are willing to do these convertible note…”
Nathan Latka Jul 9, 2016 ▶ 13:47 EP 350: Toronto Based SaaS Doing $25k MRR with 10 Clients with Amanda Parker
20VC Disclosure
Kumar: K9 Ventures refuses to invest using convertible notes
“And I walk away from deals all day long based on price and structure, so I also don't do convertible notes.”
Manu Kumar May 23, 2016 ▶ 12:06 20VC: K9's Manu Kumar on His Approach To Risk, Valuation & Believing What Other People Don't
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Gatenholm: Swedish convertible notes typically convert within 12 months
“But it needs to be converted typically within 12 months.”
Erik Gatenholm Apr 18, 2016 ▶ 11:00 He 3D Prints Body Parts And Will Do $4m in 2016 with Erik Gatenholm of CellInk EP 241

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