Convertible Note
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Despite raising $7M, Kukun has never raised a priced equity round
“We never did a price valuation.
We did convertible notes.
so beyond that, I have not really pulled any money in the last four years, three years.”
Convertible notes are debt; founders must ensure they mandate equity conversion
“Technically a convertible note actually is debt. It is technically an IOU, and sometimes there's this option to take your money back plus interest, and that can often harm the company if, you know, you're raising a lot on convertible notes. So I think the deta…”
Stacking convertible notes often causes unanticipated and severe equity dilution
“It can often feel like free money until it converts, and then you're trying to figure out all these notes with different caps, and different discount rates, and different interest accrued. Yeah. And all of a sudden you realize you sold off more of your company…”
Edwards: NARA raised $1.5M on an $11M valuation cap convertible note
“The terms that we've raised 1.5 on to date are 25 K minimum and eleven million pre money value cap.”
Hulme: Priced rounds are declining as founders avoid valuation write-downs
“Oh, I think we're seeing that firstly price rounds are less common because people aren't willing to accept the new and fair valuation. So you get convertible notes.”
Lieberman: Morning Brew raised only one $750K round from 28 angels
“The nice thing about Morning Brew is we only raised one round of funding ever. We raised 750 K on a convertible note while we were it was actually right after I quit my job at Morgan Stanley and we raised from 28 individual investors. There's 28 individual che…”
Allouche: Raising capital on convertible notes is super easy even in downturns
“It's super, super easy, especially when the market is hot, but even when it's not, super easy to raise on convertible note.”
Fischer: Swiss convertible notes are typically limited to just $25k
“In Switzerland, when you use notes, it's rather very small notes, like 20 to 25,000. So you would have to raise a lot of notes and that makes it very complicated.”
Yeomans: Atombeam crowdfunded via convertible note with $10M cap
“It was a cap and a, on a convertible note and the cap was 10.”
QuantHub raised a $1.25M convertible note in July 2018
“We raised we raised the note round early on in our existence in July of 18. That was a 1.25 million”
SalesScreen Raised an Uncapped Convertible Note Ahead of Upcoming Growth Round
“And then we did a convertible note this year, just getting up to a bigger round. No, I was only on a discount on the next round.”
Tringas: Traditional convertible notes and SAFEs fail profitable, non-fundraising startups
“Most of the early stage instruments, convertible notes and safes really are orientated around the idea that you will raise another round. And if you don't raise another round, They either do stuff that's, you know, not great, like accumulate interest indefinit…”
Trainual's convertible note blocked repayment once the startup hit revenue thresholds
“So we had an interesting trigger in our convertible note where once we hit a certain revenue threshold, the ability for me to pay back went away.”
Ralston: Debt notes were poorly suited for early-stage angel investing
“Debt was not a great model for this. It was sort of an accidental thing that were, that was used for bridge rounds, and it wasn't really meant for angel, for equity investing, and that's why we moved from convertible notes to safes.”
Ralston: Y Combinator no longer recommends startups use convertible notes
“And a convertible note is a kind of debt as well, although we don't recommend you use convertible notes anymore.”
Linnanvuo notes that convertible notes are uncommon in Helsinki
“Convertible notes are not common here.”
Liu advises founders against stacking multiple unconverted rolling notes
“Which is tricky, and I would not recommend it for other folks, which is why when I raised my money for the biotech company afterwards, we only took in one investor.”
Luke Beatty Predicts the Era of Open Convertible Notes Is Ending
“I think that's also starting to the sun's setting on a little bit of those sort of open note raises”
Waxman: Convertible notes make absolutely no sense for multi-million dollar rounds
“But when you get into a multi-million dollar round, I think that convertible notes make absolutely no sense at all.”
SAFEs and convertible notes are the new wave of investing
“I like them a lot. I think actually this is the new wave of investing.”
Mariana IQ raised a $2M seed note at a $6M cap
“It was a convertible note round. Two million note was what we issued.”
Convertible notes and SAFEs are like alcohol: use only in moderation
“Oh, they're okay, but it's kind of like alcohol, and it should only be used in moderation.”
Astronomer Raised $1.1M on Convertible Notes Across Four Separate Rounds
“1.1 million. Priced. Yeah, yeah. No, no, it was a convertible note. So we've actually done like four rounds of notes, which is something shocking to me.”
Chad Newell: Snapwire has never done a priced round
“In Snapwire's world, we raised venture debt, so convertible notes. We have never done a price round.”
Fredrickson: Founders should price early rounds and treat current cash as last
“If you can price something and price it now, it gives you something to work from and gives you more stability because you never know when your next financing round is going to come. And you should always assume that you're on your own with the cash you have al…”
Simply Insight raised on a convertible note with zero discount and interest
“No, it's a little bit more simple than that, so we're just doing a cap and no discount, no interest.”
Latka: It has never been a better time to start a company
“It's never been a better time to start a company. I mean, if you're like a little smart and you have kind of an idea, preferably a problem you're solving for yourself, it's never been better because the fact that angels are willing to do these convertible note…”