Bill.com

company on 11 shows · 47 statements across 14 episodes · said 249 times in 86 episodes since 2016

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SAASTR Disclosure
Ibarra: SaaStr runs its revenue cycle through headless Salesforce
“It shows you what he's hooked up to headless within Salesforce too, because there's multiple things running into this. So he's got class. I call it classic Salesforce for sales, right? So Salesforce CRM that our sales team has always used for like 10 years. He…”
Amelia Ibarra Aug 28, 2026 ▶ 15:45 Who Owns Your Data Now? Agents vs. Systems of Record on The Agents #013
a16z Prediction Not checkable as stated
Rampell: Software incumbents like SAP and Adobe will grow stronger with AI
“Bill.com is gonna be a stronger business, Or SAP is going to be a stronger business, or Adobe is going to be a stronger business because of AI.”
Alex Rampell Jan 19, 2026 ▶ 12:46 The AI Opportunity that goes beyond Models
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Rory O'Driscoll: Bill.com was second-quartile growth when ScaleVP invested
“For example, build.com It compounded to a huge network, right? And obviously, it was an amazing outcome for us, but the growth rate was always, I think, you know, second quartile, right? There were companies always growing faster.”
Rory O'Driscoll Jun 12, 2025 ▶ 46:46 Elon’s Empire: SpaceX, Tesla, Neuralink After the Storm & Anduril’s $2.6BN Power Move · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
SAASTR Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lacerte: Bill.com took a decade to achieve meaningful revenue before IPO
“It took us, like you said, it was probably, 10 years before we started having meaningful revenue that others like, huh, that company might go public. And then you fast forward kind of two years later, three years later, we're filing for the IPO. We're launchin…”
René Lacerte May 29, 2024 ▶ 3:10 René Lacerte, CEO Bill + Jason Lemkin: "It's Just Getting Good for SMB SaaS"
SAASTR Insight
Lacerte: Startups must bridge legacy habits to cross the digital divide
“You can't force a crossing of the digital divide overnight. So all of your listeners, everybody's trying to force that crossing. They had this great idea. We're trying to force that, but you can't, you have to have a bridge.”
René Lacerte May 29, 2024 ▶ 4:15 René Lacerte, CEO Bill + Jason Lemkin: "It's Just Getting Good for SMB SaaS"
SAASTR Assertion Partly supported
Lacerte: Bill grew its network by pricing ACH at 29¢ versus checks
“And on the payment side, we'd be like, we'll just cut you a check. So we didn't force people to connect their vendors, but then we did incentives from a pricing perspective, a check was A dollar 49 or whatever, a dollar 69 a day, and an ACH was 29 cents. So th…”
René Lacerte May 29, 2024 ▶ 4:43 René Lacerte, CEO Bill + Jason Lemkin: "It's Just Getting Good for SMB SaaS"
SAASTR Disclosure
Lacerte: An early Bill investor brought in outside counsel for regulatory compliance
“I think it was probably our series E or D. So we ended up getting to I for IPO. But in one of our investments, one of the investors is you know what? I'm not sure you guys have all the right regulatory stuff. I'm going to bring my outside counsel in to really …”
René Lacerte May 29, 2024 ▶ 15:42 René Lacerte, CEO Bill + Jason Lemkin: "It's Just Getting Good for SMB SaaS"
SAASTR Disclosure
Lacerte: Bill made heavy infrastructure investments that drove no direct revenue
“There's plenty of investment that we made over the years that didn't help us acquire customers. It didn't help us increase revenue. It was like, no, we just have to build infrastructure.”
René Lacerte May 29, 2024 ▶ 16:15 René Lacerte, CEO Bill + Jason Lemkin: "It's Just Getting Good for SMB SaaS"
SAASTR Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lacerte: Accounting firms make up bulk of Bill's client base
“So the accounting firms do represent a big bulk of client base.”
René Lacerte May 29, 2024 ▶ 18:48 René Lacerte, CEO Bill + Jason Lemkin: "It's Just Getting Good for SMB SaaS"
SAASTR Assertion Contradicted
Lacerte: Bill net revenue retention increased to 124%
“In fact, I think in the last quarter numbers, we announced that the net revenue retention had bumped up to one 24, right?”
René Lacerte May 29, 2024 ▶ 19:59 René Lacerte, CEO Bill + Jason Lemkin: "It's Just Getting Good for SMB SaaS"
SAASTR Disclosure
Lacerte: Bill quotas accounting channel reps on revenue and client count
“The accounts, we look at it signed in the same way as it would direct, but we look at the account, the revenue per accounting firm, right? So the quota is driven off of that. I see. And then they have an incentive to get X clients on board.”
René Lacerte May 29, 2024 ▶ 22:36 René Lacerte, CEO Bill + Jason Lemkin: "It's Just Getting Good for SMB SaaS"
SAASTR Disclosure
Lacerte: Bill.com requires upfront contractual commitments from bank partners
“The banks are very different, right? That's kind of elephant hunting. And so the teams there, they get the bank committed upfront and we drive that commitment in the contract to make sure that there is a commitment.”
René Lacerte May 29, 2024 ▶ 22:58 René Lacerte, CEO Bill + Jason Lemkin: "It's Just Getting Good for SMB SaaS"
SAASTR Assertion Contradicted
Lacerte: Bill.com has reached 121,000 customers
“Yeah, a 121,000.”
René Lacerte May 29, 2024 ▶ 30:23 René Lacerte, CEO Bill + Jason Lemkin: "It's Just Getting Good for SMB SaaS"
SAASTR Assertion Not yet assessed · timeframe May 2024
Lacerte: Bill.com has 3.2 million network members
“The opportunity for us to take this 3.2 million network members and give them something that is a paying product.”
René Lacerte May 29, 2024 ▶ 31:16 René Lacerte, CEO Bill + Jason Lemkin: "It's Just Getting Good for SMB SaaS"
LENNY'S PODCAST Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ramp built a Bill.com competitor in three months with five people
“We basically gave a team, you know, goal of building a competitor to build.com. It was three engineers, one designer, one PM, three months, and they hit it out of the park and that product is, is, is moving in billions of dollars a year.”
Geoff Charles Aug 6, 2023 ▶ 9:35 Velocity over everything: How Ramp became the fastest-growing SaaS startup ever | Geoff Charles
Incumbent market comparables de-risk business decisions for startup product teams
“When you look at, you know, bill.com, right, they're a publicly traded company, Expensify Public and Traded or Concur or Coupa. These are all like large players that are actually very motivating and largely de-risk some of the business decisions you're making.”
Geoff Charles Aug 6, 2023 ▶ 13:54 Velocity over everything: How Ramp became the fastest-growing SaaS startup ever | Geoff Charles
SAASTR Assertion Supported
Divvy went from first institutional round to $2.5B exit in four years
“We went from our first institutional round of funding to getting acquired in, in about four years, right? In a two and a half billion dollar exit.”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 0:16 Go to Market Strategies That Led To Divvy's $2.5B Exit with Divvy’s Former CRO, Sterling Snow
SAASTR Assertion Supported
Blond: Bill.com acquired Divvy for $2.5 billion in 2021
“Last year, two and a half billion dollar acquisition by Bill.com.”
Sam Blond Nov 17, 2022 ▶ 0:48 SaaStr CRO Confidential: Founders Fund Partner Sam Blond + Divvy CRO Sterling Snow
SAASTR Insight
Schuck: Startups must develop talent internally rather than hiring from tech giants
“Because you're not going to go out and get the best people from Salesforce or Bill.com or wherever. You're going to get people who are not those people who have an aspiration for the future of being those people, the same way we all do in our startup, and you'…”
Henry Schuck Jul 6, 2022 ▶ 32:03 10 Mistakes the CEO/Founder of ZoomInfo Made on His Journey to IPO (and Beyond)
SAASTR Insight
Clayton: Companies hit diminishing sales channel returns around $100M revenue
“Usually at zero to a hundred million dollars, you might have a couple of sales motions, maybe a couple, a few marketing channels. It's much simpler. You focus, but then after sometimes, sometime around a hundred million dollars, you tend to Start hitting dimin…”
Tom Clayton Mar 8, 2022 ▶ 0:22 The Path to a Billion Dollars: How to Create Multi-Revenue Streams with Bill.com CRO Tom Clayton
SAASTR Assertion Not yet assessed · timeframe Mar 2022
Bill.com transaction revenue has surpassed its subscription revenue
“If you looked at our quarter last quarter we have now surpassed our revenues. Subscription pricing revenue has now been surpassed by transaction-based pricing revenue.”
Tom Clayton Mar 8, 2022 ▶ 5:08 The Path to a Billion Dollars: How to Create Multi-Revenue Streams with Bill.com CRO Tom Clayton
SAASTR Insight
Clayton: Vertical GTM works without changing the underlying product
“Thinking about a go-to-market skin that's verticalized from messaging standpoint, from customer references, even segmenting customer, ah, sales teams so that they're calling specific verticals just makes you much more effective. You're not even changing the pr…”
Tom Clayton Mar 8, 2022 ▶ 8:38 The Path to a Billion Dollars: How to Create Multi-Revenue Streams with Bill.com CRO Tom Clayton
SAASTR Insight
SaaS startups must rely on self-serve or direct sales under $100M
“If you want to control your own sales, control your own destiny, you either have a great self-serve platform or you have your own sales force.”
Tom Clayton Mar 8, 2022 ▶ 9:20 The Path to a Billion Dollars: How to Create Multi-Revenue Streams with Bill.com CRO Tom Clayton
SAASTR Insight
Clayton: SaaS bundling only works for similar-sized companies with complementary products
“It works if you're like-sized companies, and you have a very complimentary offering that's selling into the same buyer persona.”
Tom Clayton Mar 8, 2022 ▶ 9:52 The Path to a Billion Dollars: How to Create Multi-Revenue Streams with Bill.com CRO Tom Clayton
SAASTR Assertion Supported
Clayton: Bill.com revenue growth accelerated in each quarter since IPO
“If you look at our last four quarters since we've been public, every quarter it's accelerated in terms of growth.”
Tom Clayton Mar 8, 2022 ▶ 18:22 The Path to a Billion Dollars: How to Create Multi-Revenue Streams with Bill.com CRO Tom Clayton
SAASTR Insight
Clayton: M&A before $100M in revenue is just a distraction
“Before a hundred million, it's just a distraction.”
Tom Clayton Mar 8, 2022 ▶ 23:36 The Path to a Billion Dollars: How to Create Multi-Revenue Streams with Bill.com CRO Tom Clayton
SAASTR Disclosure
Clayton: International Expansion Is Currently a Distraction for Bill.com
“Bill.com. It's almost, outside of one recent acquisition, it's almost a hundred percent domestic. We have, you know, depending on how you count it, if you count all our acquisitions, yeah, maybe we have 300,000 customers. There's six million SMBs in the US alo…”
Tom Clayton Mar 8, 2022 ▶ 24:31 The Path to a Billion Dollars: How to Create Multi-Revenue Streams with Bill.com CRO Tom Clayton
SAASTR Disclosure
Tom Clayton still personally interviews every candidate joining his team
“I interview every single person, even to this day, and when I first start, the teams hate it.”
Tom Clayton Mar 8, 2022 ▶ 27:25 The Path to a Billion Dollars: How to Create Multi-Revenue Streams with Bill.com CRO Tom Clayton
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Partly supported
Practice Ignition charges 270 bps on US credit cards and max $1 on ACH
“We've got 270 bips in the US on credit card, and this is a headline rate but we have a flat fee charge for ACH presently, and so if you're processing, ah, B to B payments, similar to say like a bill.com, but you're running it through us, ah, between the two pa…”
Guy Pearson Jan 4, 2022 ▶ 4:56 Practice Ignition Breaks $24m Revenue, Raises $50m at $330m Valuation Helping 5,000 Accounting Firms Scale
SAASTR Assertion Supported
Lemkin: The majority of Bill.com's revenue no longer comes from software
“The majority of bill.com's revenue is no longer from software.”
Jason Lemkin Sep 17, 2021 ▶ 21:24 Nick Mehta CEO Gainsight + Jason Lemkin CEO SaaStr on "The Latest in Leveling Up Customer Success"
SAASTR Assertion Partly supported
Lemkin: Bill.com's net retention rate expanded from 110% to 130% post-IPO
“Bill.com has gone from one 10 to almost one 30 since IPO.”
Jason Lemkin Sep 17, 2021 ▶ 21:33 Nick Mehta CEO Gainsight + Jason Lemkin CEO SaaStr on "The Latest in Leveling Up Customer Success"
20VC Opinion
Matan Bar: Bill.com targets finance pros; Melio targets owner-operators
“As these tools, Bill.com, Avid Exchange, all these wonderful accounts payable automation solutions are mostly built for finance professionals, like an accountant, a bookkeeper, a finance team, and Melio is targeting these owner operators, these small businesse…”
Matan Bar Feb 11, 2021 ▶ 13:13 20VC: Scaling to a $1.3Bn Valuation While in Stealth, The Power of Different Network Effects Within Payment Platforms & How To Leverage Your Board and Investor Base for the Most Value with Matan Bar, Founder & CEO @ Melio
20VC Disclosure
Settle built a better Bill.com and found extreme product-market fit
“Oh, that's easy. Definitely settle. It's at Settle.co. Alec, the founder, was the head of credit at a firm, and he and his founding team built a betterbill.com and have found extreme product market fit.”
Avlok Kohli Dec 21, 2020 ▶ 33:26 20VC: Why the Theory of Pro-Rata is Often False, How Rolling Funds Impact Both Pricing and Competition & The Biggest Lessons from Working with Jack Dorsey with Avlok Kohli, CEO @ AngelList Venture
20VC Opinion
Harry Stebbings is amazed Bill.com remains a surviving public company
“I'm amazed that that's still a surviving company, let alone a public company, but I'm totally with you.”
Harry Stebbings Dec 21, 2020 ▶ 33:44 20VC: Why the Theory of Pro-Rata is Often False, How Rolling Funds Impact Both Pricing and Competition & The Biggest Lessons from Working with Jack Dorsey with Avlok Kohli, CEO @ AngelList Venture
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Partly supported
Lacerte: Bill.com processes $40B annually with a $1,700 average transaction size
“We do close to forty billion dollars a year in money movement, and the average transaction is 1700 to 2000 dollars”
René Lacerte May 24, 2017 ▶ 2:26 668: Will Bill.com and Intuit Lead Small Business FinTech Space?
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Bill.com reduces customer paper payments from 95% to 35% in one year
“When a customer comes to us, 95% of their payments are paper-based. And we're able to move that to, you know, probably 35 to 40% over the course of the first six to 12 months.”
René Lacerte May 24, 2017 ▶ 3:45 668: Will Bill.com and Intuit Lead Small Business FinTech Space?
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Lacerte: Bill.com charges $0.49 per electronic payment
“We charge 49 cents for an electronic payment period.”
René Lacerte May 24, 2017 ▶ 4:31 668: Will Bill.com and Intuit Lead Small Business FinTech Space?
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Supported
Lacerte: Bill.com has over two million entities using its payments network
“And we have over two million entities that are in our network now that use us to pay and get paid.”
René Lacerte May 24, 2017 ▶ 4:52 668: Will Bill.com and Intuit Lead Small Business FinTech Space?
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Supported
Lacerte: Bill.com raised $110 million in venture capital over 10 years
“And so this one, we have about a hundred and ten million from venture capital. In the company over the last 10 years.”
René Lacerte May 24, 2017 ▶ 6:01 668: Will Bill.com and Intuit Lead Small Business FinTech Space?
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lacerte: Bill.com retains over 90% of customers who complete their activation
“And when I say the most part, I mean like well over 90%, right? If they sign up and then they don't do any of those things, and in particular if they don't get the sync done or don't get a payment done you know, then within 90 days, you know, we might lose 20%…”
René Lacerte May 24, 2017 ▶ 13:36 668: Will Bill.com and Intuit Lead Small Business FinTech Space?
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Supported
Lacerte: The average Bill.com customer pays around $100 per month
“The average customer is paying us around a hundred dollars a month.”
René Lacerte May 24, 2017 ▶ 14:02 668: Will Bill.com and Intuit Lead Small Business FinTech Space?
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lacerte: Bill.com adds over 2,000 new active business customers every month
“Oh yeah. Yeah.”
René Lacerte May 24, 2017 ▶ 15:56 668: Will Bill.com and Intuit Lead Small Business FinTech Space?
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Lacerte: Bill.com is embedding its product directly inside Intuit's QuickBooks Online
“Also in addition to banks, we have a great partnership with Intuit where we are just in the process of becoming embedded inside of QuickBooks Online.”
René Lacerte May 24, 2017 ▶ 17:13 668: Will Bill.com and Intuit Lead Small Business FinTech Space?
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Lacerte: Bill.com consistently hits a 10 to 15-month CAC payback period
“Our payback target is, you know, somewhere between 10 and 15 months. And generally we had that.”
René Lacerte May 24, 2017 ▶ 17:22 668: Will Bill.com and Intuit Lead Small Business FinTech Space?
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Lacerte: Bill.com models average customer lifetime at well over five years
“We assume, you know, well over five years, but we don't actually know because, you know, the data is just growing so fast, and, you know, we expect that, you know, customers will last longer, so we've had some customers obviously been in market right now for m…”
René Lacerte May 24, 2017 ▶ 18:03 668: Will Bill.com and Intuit Lead Small Business FinTech Space?
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Lacerte: Bill.com does not sell SMB financial data or partner for lending
“So we do not sell anything today. We have not partnered with anybody today”
René Lacerte May 24, 2017 ▶ 21:07 668: Will Bill.com and Intuit Lead Small Business FinTech Space?
TOP FOUNDERS Disclosure
Lacerte: Bill.com will eventually use SMB data to enable partner lending
“We will, I would imagine someday in the future, we will do something with that to help other people do the lending that they want to be able to do”
René Lacerte May 24, 2017 ▶ 21:33 668: Will Bill.com and Intuit Lead Small Business FinTech Space?

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