This episode carries Karl Sun's own address, with nobody on the show putting
questions to them. It still counts as said, and it is kept out of every score on their page.
Karl Sun, co-founder and CEO of Lucidchart, discusses pricing page experiments and why maximizing free signups failed to drive paid conversions.
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Requiring credit cards for free trials generated $500K incremental ARR for Lucidchart
“These changes ultimately on, on the pricing page ended up back in the day for us, Contributing about 500,000 dollars of incremental revenue in just 12 months, which was a huge win for us back at the time. And overall, they increased payments by 25%, which is o…”
What-if
Blindly trusting conversion data would have trapped Lucidchart with a poor homepage
“If we had trusted, just purely trusted the data on all of those homepage experiments, We would still be stuck with that really crappy homepage as opposed to something that I think resonates more as we evolve as a company.”
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Lucid Software's growth team generated $1M incremental ARR in its first quarter
“So, when we started when we started the growth team, we had this goal that, ah, we, you know, our target was if they can be successful, that would mean they would contribute like a million dollars in incremental revenue, ARR, over the course of that first year…”
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Replacing 'start free trial' with 'try or buy' improved Lucidchart's lead quality
“And instead of saying, start a free trial, We've now saying, you know, try or buy, and so that's a actually meaningful difference, like just de-emphasizing that idea of free. And so what we found is, you know, obviously we've lost some traffic, lost some regis…”
Insight
Desaturated org charts with grayed-out faces converted best on Lucidchart's homepage
“This org chart was the most effective, and not only was the org chart more effective, but we realized that when you put people's faces in pictures, it resonated more with people, and even furthermore, it worked best when these faces were sort of grayed out or …”
Insight
Lucidchart's viral pop culture flowcharts ultimately failed to communicate core product utility
“We realized it actually didn't do a great job of introducing you to the product, even less so than the song ones, and telling you how to use our product or what it would be useful for.”