China

59 statements across 42 episodes · 14 bullish · 12 bearish · 39 people on the record · first statement Mar 6, 2017 by Mei Xu · said 528 times in 180 episodes since 2017 · across every show →

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Everything said about China, oldest first

Mar 6, 2017 positive
Opinion
Mei Xu: Uniformity in 1970s China Created Happiness by Eliminating Jealousy
“Life was very happy in a sense that you don't have to be jealous of each other. You don't have to be wanting things you could not have.”
Mei Xu Mar 6, 2017 ▶ 1:21 Chesapeake Bay Candle: Mei Xu
Mar 6, 2017 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Xu: China Sold Rejected Export Fashion Near Bus Stations in Her Youth
“China at that time already started exporting fashion, and they would have those rejected fashion, and they put them on sale near the, you know, bus stations.”
Mei Xu Mar 6, 2017 ▶ 6:58 Chesapeake Bay Candle: Mei Xu
Mar 6, 2017 neutral
Assertion Supported
Mei Xu: 1990s Chinese Villages Specialized in Single-Product Manufacturing
“Particularly in that part of China, which is very entrepreneurial, there are villages that make nothing but buttons, or a village that make nothing but candlestick.”
Mei Xu Mar 6, 2017 ▶ 25:08 Chesapeake Bay Candle: Mei Xu
Mar 6, 2017 neutral
Assertion Supported
Mei Xu: China Lacked Domestic Home Fragrance Industry in the 1990s
“At that time, China did not have a home fragrance industry. To produce that kind of oil, you need a chemical compounding facility, and they were not used to that. They used to sell their cinnamons and their jasms overseas. The French and the U.S. Will then tur…”
Mei Xu Mar 6, 2017 ▶ 24:03 Chesapeake Bay Candle: Mei Xu
Jun 26, 2017 negative
Insight
"Quality fade" from margin-seeking factories is a major Chinese manufacturing risk
“I had several product problems like that that came from a manufacturer trying to improve his margins, and you know, this is something that in the manufacturing world people call quality fade, And it's a big problem when you manufacture through China.”
Randy Hetrick Jun 26, 2017 ▶ 20:06 TRX: Randy Hetrick
Jun 26, 2017
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Private investigators found 20 Chinese factories manufacturing counterfeit TRX gear
“And they found about 20 different factories scattered around China that were all creating fake counterfeit TRX suspension trainers.”
Randy Hetrick Jun 26, 2017 ▶ 22:57 TRX: Randy Hetrick
Aug 27, 2018
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hetrick: Investigators discovered about 20 Chinese factories counterfeiting TRX trainers
“And they found about 20 different factories scattered around China that were all creating fake counterfeit TRX suspension trainers.”
Randy Hetrick Aug 27, 2018 ▶ 22:46 TRX: Randy Hetrick (2018)
Aug 27, 2018 negative
Insight
Hetrick: 'Quality fade' from margin-seeking suppliers is a major risk in China
“A manufacturer trying to improve his margins, and you know, this is something that in the manufacturing world, people call quality fade, and it's a big problem when you manufacture through China.”
Randy Hetrick Aug 27, 2018 ▶ 20:08 TRX: Randy Hetrick (2018)
Nov 12, 2018
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Xu's mother worked 12 years as waitress before reopening medical clinic
“She was a doctor, and she effectively had to give up her credentials, because when she emigrated to the U.S., no institution in the U.S. Would recognize her credentials from China, and so as a result, she Kind of had to go backwards. So she worked as a waitres…”
Tony Xu Nov 12, 2018 ▶ 7:43 DoorDash: Tony Xu
Apr 1, 2019
Disclosure
Holmes: Springfree Kept Proprietary Parts Local While Moving Steel to China
“Even to this day, most of the original Manufacturing components, the rods and the net material that we use, we're using the exact same manufacturing partners. They've come a long way, the whole way through the whole journey. We've never deviated from that, but…”
Steve Holmes Apr 1, 2019 ▶ 39:08 Springfree Trampoline: Keith Alexander & Steve Holmes
May 13, 2019 positive
Insight
Pairing domestic and offshore manufacturing gave Belkin an early competitive advantage
“We were still doing the bulk of the manufacturing in the U.S., and that gave us very rapid turnaround, but now we could also do high volume things at as low a cost as anyone else was doing anywhere. So, because we were a little bit early there, it was an advan…”
Chet Pipkin May 13, 2019 ▶ 33:37 Belkin International: Chet Pipkin
Jun 17, 2019 neutral
Assertion Supported
China lacked domestic home fragrance and chemical compounding facilities in the 1990s
“I was frustrated because at that time, China did not have a home fragrance industry. To produce that kind of oil, you need a chemical compounding facility, and they were not used to that. They used to sell their cinnamons and their jasms overseas. The French a…”
Mei Xu Jun 17, 2019 ▶ 24:38 Chesapeake Bay Candle: Mei Xu (2017)
Jun 17, 2019 positive
Opinion
Xu: Uniform living conditions in 1970s China eliminated jealousy and fostered contentment
“When we grow up, there was absolutely nothing. Everyone wore the same thing. Everyone would be eating the same food. Everyone had the same small apartment. Life was very happy in the sense that you don't have to be jealous of each other. You don't have to be w…”
Mei Xu Jun 17, 2019 ▶ 1:48 Chesapeake Bay Candle: Mei Xu (2017)
May 18, 2020 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
The Fragrance Paintbrush is the single product driving Jo Loves' Chinese expansion
“And that paintbrush now is going around. That's the thing that is converting China. That is the one single product because they've never seen it before.”
Jo Malone May 18, 2020 ▶ 1:12:12 Jo Loves: Jo Malone CBE
Oct 8, 2020 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Bossy Cosmetics shifted its supply chain to Italy, China, and Germany
“When we first started the business, a hundred percent of our supply chain was in California. And then of course, as we started to grow and I decided, okay, look, this is actually going really well. I want to go into eyeliners, eyeshadows, all these, I want to …”
Aishetu Dozie Oct 8, 2020 ▶ 14:48 How I Built Resilience: Aishetu Dozie of Bossy Cosmetics
Dec 14, 2020 positive
Assertion Supported
Merrill: Free-to-play was already succeeding in Korea and China by 2006
“The free to play business model was already having success in Korea in particular, and then starting to have some success in China.”
Marc Merrill Dec 14, 2020 ▶ 32:30 Riot Games: Brandon Beck and Marc Merrill
Apr 1, 2021 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hint manufactures and sources entirely in the US without using China
“We do everything in the U.S., A lot of companies buy cans. A lot of the can manufacturers are in China. We don't do any of that. We do everything locally.”
Kara Goldin Apr 1, 2021 ▶ 12:40 How I Built Resilience: Kara Goldin of Hint
Aug 30, 2021 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Holmes: Springfree kept proprietary rod manufacturing original while moving assembly to China
“Even to this day, most of the original Manufacturing components, the rods and the net material that we use, we are using the exact same manufacturing partners. They've come a long way, the whole way through the whole journey. We've never deviated from that, bu…”
Steve Holmes Aug 30, 2021 ▶ 39:06 Springfree Trampoline: Keith Alexander & Steve Holmes (2019)
Aug 30, 2021
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Holmes: Springfree invested $5M to build its own factory in China
“And we skipped apart guy, which is in 2008, we decided to build our own factory in China because we weren't satisfied with the quality. So I invested about five million dollars in building a Chinese factory.”
Steve Holmes Aug 30, 2021 ▶ 42:57 Springfree Trampoline: Keith Alexander & Steve Holmes (2019)
Jan 31, 2022
Assertion Supported
Leatherman: Company Sued and Won Against Retailers Selling Counterfeit Tools
“We used to file lawsuits against the importers and the retailers that were selling the knockoffs. It really wasn't possible to go after the manufacturers in China, and we were quite successful in those lawsuits for quite a few years.”
Tim Leatherman Jan 31, 2022 ▶ 53:40 Leatherman Tool Group: Tim Leatherman
Feb 14, 2022 positive
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Telfar's first pandemic-era bag drop in March 2020 sold out in seconds
“It was the end of March where finally China opened up. We got a shipment of bags. We post a bag drop in the middle of this crazy pandemic... And they sold out in seconds.”
Babak Radboy Feb 14, 2022 ▶ 1:03:23 Telfar: Telfar Clemens and Babak Radboy
Mar 21, 2022
Assertion Not checkable as stated
China represented up to a third of WordPress before being blocked
“The other thing was about a quarter or a third of our usage at the time was in China. And China decided that the Great Firewall would block WordPress.com.”
Matt Mullenweg Mar 21, 2022 ▶ 56:10 WordPress & Automattic: Matt Mullenweg
Apr 28, 2022 negative
Opinion
US lacks the manufacturing supply chain infrastructure of China and Taiwan
“They have that infrastructure in place in, in places like China and Taiwan that we just don't have here anymore. And so it is so hard for us to be actually successful because we do not have the infrastructure to actually make stuff anymore.”
Lloyd Armbrust Apr 28, 2022 ▶ 26:30 HIBT Lab! Armbrust American: Lloyd Armbrust
Apr 28, 2022 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Pre-pandemic meltblown fabric cost $10,000 per ton in China
“And at the time before the pandemic, you would pay probably about, I would say, 10,000 dollars a ton in China for that Melbourne layer, you would pay about 17,000 dollars in the United States for that Melbourne layer.”
Lloyd Armbrust Apr 28, 2022 ▶ 14:31 HIBT Lab! Armbrust American: Lloyd Armbrust
Apr 28, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Pandemic meltblown fabric prices in China surged to $120,000 per ton
“It was selling for a 120,000 dollars a ton in China. Wow. And it was going up every day”
Lloyd Armbrust Apr 28, 2022 ▶ 14:47 HIBT Lab! Armbrust American: Lloyd Armbrust
Apr 28, 2022 negative
Opinion
US lacks specialized industrial talent like sonic welding technicians, Armbrust says
“I had to become an expert in sonic welding because there just aren't any experts in sonic welding where you could go in China or you could go in Taiwan. And like, there would be just like, there's people that, you know, are experts in plumbing. They're experts…”
Lloyd Armbrust Apr 28, 2022 ▶ 27:49 HIBT Lab! Armbrust American: Lloyd Armbrust
Nov 7, 2022 negative
Opinion
Tapaninaho: Western manufacturing was too costly for required parts and quality
“Couldn't do it in Finland. You couldn't get the quality and the materials and the parts in any Western country, really, unless you paid a lot.”
Kristian Tapaninaho Nov 7, 2022 ▶ 42:30 Ooni Pizza Ovens: Darina Garland and Kristian Tapaninaho
Dec 8, 2022 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Menker: Gro insights outpace foreign government agricultural reports by two years
“In places like India, in places like Russia, in places like China, in places like Africa, our lead time for sort of our insights is one to two years at times.”
Sara Menker Dec 8, 2022 ▶ 31:26 HIBT Lab! Gro Intelligence: Sara Menker
Dec 8, 2022 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Menker: China transitioned into a structural importer of core grains in 2020
“In twenty-twenty, it turned into a structural importer of grains. That means that the world's sort of largest economy went from being self-sufficient in some of these core grains to being insufficient.”
Sara Menker Dec 8, 2022 ▶ 17:53 HIBT Lab! Gro Intelligence: Sara Menker
Mar 13, 2023 negative
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Xero Shoes' original Chinese manufacturing partner secretly patented their design
“We learned that our first factory had actually patented our Saturnal design in China, so that was something we had to deal with.”
Lena Phoenix Mar 13, 2023 ▶ 1:01:36 Xero Shoes: Steven Sashen and Lena Phoenix
Apr 20, 2023
Assertion Supported
China plans lunar missions specifically to harvest Helium-3 for fusion power
“China is planning lunar missions for exactly that reason.”
Joe Laurienti Apr 20, 2023 ▶ 35:52 HIBT Lab! Ursa Major: Joe Laurienti
May 1, 2023
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Logistics and customs nightmares in China nearly bankrupted Suitsupply early on
“So everything was, you know, the quality was great, the craftsmanship was great, but everything else around it was a nightmare. I almost tanked the business with it.”
Fokke de Jong May 1, 2023 ▶ 41:42 Suitsupply: Fokke de Jong
May 1, 2023 positive
Opinion
De Jong claims Suitsupply's Chinese factory surpassed Italian factories in quality
“This was, you know, something I'm like, I've never seen some, so much quality and so much detail before. It was probably one of the best factories I've ever seen. Better than ever, anything I've seen in Italy.”
Fokke de Jong May 1, 2023 ▶ 39:43 Suitsupply: Fokke de Jong
Nov 20, 2023 neutral
Disclosure
Everlane live-blogged factory conditions from its Chinese manufacturing partners in 2013
“In 2013, there were a couple of key events that happened for us. One is we had started to manufacture in China, and we really wanted to understand are the factories we working, we're working with in China, high quality. And myself and a few of us went to China…”
Michael Preysman Nov 20, 2023 ▶ 54:58 Everlane: Michael Preysman
Dec 21, 2023
Assertion Partly supported
Altemus: US declared Moon strategic interest in 2018 to counter China
“Where it turned, Guy, was in 2018 the National Security Council and the National Space Council declared that the moon was now of strategic interest. China was coming on strong, and the U.S. Needed to set the norms and behaviors of how we live in space. And wor…”
Steve Altemus Dec 21, 2023 ▶ 7:27 Shooting for the moon with Steve Altemus of Intuitive Machines
Dec 21, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
Altemus: Only India and China have successfully landed on the Moon recently
“The very recent history, it's only been India and China. India being the latest and the, and you saw the recent Russian mission to the moon failed on the way.”
Steve Altemus Dec 21, 2023 ▶ 15:53 Shooting for the moon with Steve Altemus of Intuitive Machines
Jan 4, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Yassin: CCTV approached Nas Daily to promote tourism in Xinjiang
“To be clear, we've had people from China, CCTV, tell us to go to Xinjiang and talk about the culture and the food.”
Nuseir Yassin Jan 4, 2024 ▶ 25:41 Sharing the 2023 HIBT Lab Highlight Reel
Jan 4, 2024 negative
Disclosure
Yassin: US State Department asked Nas Daily to make anti-China videos
“But we also had people from the State Department tell us, hey, why don't you make videos about China and how bad it is?”
Nuseir Yassin Jan 4, 2024 ▶ 25:54 Sharing the 2023 HIBT Lab Highlight Reel
Jan 15, 2024 neutral
Disclosure
Primary centers its manufacturing in Vietnam and India over China
“But for now, I think we're sort of firmly in in Vietnam and India with still a little bit of production in China.”
Galyn Bernard Jan 15, 2024 ▶ 1:05:33 Primary: Christina Carbonell and Galyn Bernard
Feb 29, 2024 positive
Opinion
Harris: The US-China AI race is about responsible deployment, not speed
“The U S has to lead and say, we need to set the terms of the race. And it's actually a race to the responsible and conscious deployment of technology that in its effect strengthens your society relative to other ones. That's the true competition.”
Tristan Harris Feb 29, 2024 ▶ 9:50 The peril (and promise) of AI with Tristan Harris: Part 2
Mar 7, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Berdichevsky: China mines, processes, or refines 95 percent of battery graphite
“Yeah, something like 95% is mined or processed or refined in China. So some of it gets extracted, let's say, in Australia, but then it gets shipped to China to process. So that's right.”
Gene Berdachevsky Mar 7, 2024 ▶ 11:07 Supercharging Lithium-Ion Batteries with Gene Berdichevsky of Sila Nanotechnologies
Mar 18, 2024 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Liu: EachNet Was the Only E-Commerce Platform in Early 2000s China
“We have never seen this kind of thing before, and there was no e-commerce in China. Only each net.”
Larry Liu Mar 18, 2024 ▶ 9:30 Weee!: Larry Liu
Jul 1, 2024 neutral
Insight
Winthrop: US manufacturing will always cost more than China, but volume narrows gap
“There's an inherent cost structure by making the United States that is forever going to make it more expensive than, let's say, Manufacturing in China, but you can close the gap down massively if there was volume and commitment there.”
Bayard Winthrop Jul 1, 2024 ▶ 1:00:48 American Giant: Bayard Winthrop
Jul 1, 2024 negative
Assertion Contradicted
American Apparel Brands Must Rebuild Fragmented Domestic Supply Chains From Scratch
“If you go to China today and you and I want to launch a, let's say, a jacket business, we can go order a 100,000 jackets in pink and 250,000 jackets with a hood in orange, and we can do a turnkey, just write the order. You can't do that domestically. Couldn't …”
Bayard Winthrop Jul 1, 2024 ▶ 32:48 American Giant: Bayard Winthrop
Jul 1, 2024 positive
Assertion Supported
Winthrop: US manufacturing has far stronger legal protections than Bangladesh or China
“And to be clear, if you make stuff in the United States, you get the human rights benefits, the environmental benefits, the worker safety benefits that are baked into domestic law in a way that if you make it somewhere else, like Bangladesh or China, there are…”
Bayard Winthrop Jul 1, 2024 ▶ 1:17:50 American Giant: Bayard Winthrop
Nov 11, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Tannen: Suppliers sold Chinese-grown cotton labeled as 'Egyptian cotton'
“I found that these Egyptian cotton sheets that they were selling me were woven in China. They just named a plant, a cotton plant in China, Egyptian cotton, so that they could call it that.”
Scott Tannen Nov 11, 2024 ▶ 20:38 Boll & Branch: Scott and Missy Tannen
Apr 28, 2025
Assertion Partly supported
Winer: Most Hexclad Cookware Is Manufactured in China
“The cookware, most of the cookware is made in, in China, actually. Our wood products are made in Slovenia. Our eco-friendly aprons here in LA.”
Danny Winer Apr 28, 2025 ▶ 1:09:49 Hexclad: Danny Winer
May 5, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Shipping Litter-Robots overseas cost the same as assembling them locally
“We studied this, and we found out that what it would cost us to ship the product from overseas to our warehouse is what it would cost us to assemble it locally.”
Brad Baxter May 5, 2025 ▶ 50:35 Whisker/Litter-Robot: Brad Baxter
May 29, 2025 positive
Disclosure
Goba Sports Group refuses to abandon Chinese manufacturing despite US tariffs
“Look, I'm, you know, we've invested so heavily and their family, like, I'm not running away from China. It's not that easy. We've done too much.”
Steve Holmes May 29, 2025 ▶ 5:07 Advice Line with Steve Holmes of goba Sports Group
Sep 8, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Carlton Calvin imported dead scorpions from China starting at seven cents each
“I think they started at like seven cents a scorpion, but as I got more popular, And I wanted to order more. The price rapidly increased.”
Carlton Calvin Sep 8, 2025 ▶ 17:50 Carlton Calvin: Razor. The wild rise, collapse, and reinvention of a mobile toy empire.
Sep 22, 2025
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Poppi paid 40 cents per empty can shipped from China during COVID
“Cans now cost 11 cents. We were paying 40 cents for a can during COVID. We were shipping containers Of essentially air, empty aluminum cans all the way from China, just so we could fulfill the demand.”
Stephen Ellsworth Sep 22, 2025 ▶ 58:13 Poppi: Allison and Stephen Ellsworth. From Farmers Market Vinegar Drink to $2B Soda Sensation
Jan 29, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Cost Plus Drugs manufactures generic pills cheaper domestically than in Asia
“And so we can make generic pills here in the United States cheaper than what we can buy them for from India or China.”
Mark Cuban Jan 29, 2026 ▶ 3:33 Advice Line with Serial Entrepreneur Mark Cuban
Jan 29, 2026 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Import tariffs on Chinese manufacturing nearly double product costs for Northern Classics
“We pay, oh, it's, we almost double our product costs in tariffs. We have our costs, and then we double it.”
Kristen Rude Jan 29, 2026 ▶ 43:16 Advice Line with Serial Entrepreneur Mark Cuban
Feb 23, 2026 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Square's early credit card readers cost 97 cents to manufacture
“And each reader cost you how much? 97 cents.”
Jim McKelvey Feb 23, 2026 ▶ 49:20 Square: Jim McKelvey. He Lost a $2,000 Sale, Then Built a $10 Billion Company
Apr 13, 2026 bearish
Assertion Supported
Angle: China now leads consumer robotic floor care instead of US
“We used to, past tense, lead the consumer robotic floor care industry. We don't anymore. China does.”
Colin Angle Apr 13, 2026 ▶ 58:02 iRobot: Colin Angle. How The Roomba Became a Household Icon
May 11, 2026 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Domestic Manufacturing Offsets China's 30% Wage Advantage Through Freight and Quality
“And we determined that the only advantage you have making it in China is wages, right? It's about a 30% advantage in cost of product. Well, we felt like between freight and quality and a series of other things, we could make up that difference.”
John Gabbert May 11, 2026 ▶ 40:57 Room & Board: John Gabbert. A Broken Deal, a Family Rift, and the Birth of a Furniture Giant
May 18, 2026 neutral
Opinion
Huang is less concerned than most about a hot conflict over Taiwan
“If you ask me, am I concerned about a hot conflict? I'm less concerned than most. But depending on the actions of the leaders, We may cause the hot conflict, and so I am of the opinion that we all must be more long-term minded if we can. We ought to have a mor…”
Jensen Huang May 18, 2026 ▶ 53:33 NVIDIA: Jensen Huang. From near collapse to becoming the world’s biggest company
Jun 29, 2026
Assertion Not checkable as stated
e.l.f. shipped 192,000 direct-to-consumer orders from China to fulfill 2006 spike
“And it took about six to eight weeks, and I, we shipped a 192,000 orders from China, direct to customers in the U.S., and then that really, you know, that year we were projected to do two million dollars for the year.”
Joey Shamah Jun 29, 2026 ▶ 46:38 e.l.f. Cosmetics: Joey Shamah. The Dollar Store Formula That Built a Cosmetics Giant
Jul 6, 2026 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
China Tariffs Added $85,000 Per Pallet to Catalina Crunch's Monk Fruit Costs
“Due to the tariffs on, on China, the price of monk fruit went way, way, way up, and it was like an extra 85,000 dollars a pallet for us to buy monk fruit.”
Krishna Kaliannan Jul 6, 2026 ▶ 58:28 Catalina Crunch: Krishna Kaliannan. From Homemade Keto Cocoa Puffs to Breakfast Aisle Breakthrough
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