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Mike Krieger

Chief Product Officer, Anthropic. On 5 shows, 11 appearances. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.

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Mike Krieger co-founded Instagram in 2010 alongside Kevin Systrom, serving as its Chief Technology Officer through its acquisition by Facebook. In 2024, after co-founding the AI-powered news platform Artifact, he joined Anthropic as Chief Product Officer.

5shows
11appearances
175statements
14resolved
14supported
0contradicted
100%fully supported
77said about them ↓

Everything Mike Krieger said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.

20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Krieger: DeepSeek release had almost no impact on Anthropic's go-to-market
“I got this question a bunch with deep seek when deep seek came out, like, all right, what does deep seek mean for you? And I think there's things that we learned from on the tech side, just looking at what they were doing, but from a go to market and place in …”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 9:10 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
LENNY'S PODCAST Assertion Not checkable as stated
Mike Krieger estimates Claude Code is over 95% written by AI
“At this point, I would be shocked if it wasn't 95% plus.”
Mike Krieger Jun 5, 2025 ▶ 17:18 Anthropic's CPO on what comes next | Mike Krieger (co-founder of Instagram)
20VC Opinion
Krieger: Nations Should Not Distill AI Models From Other Countries
“I think the places where this gets interesting are, one, do we want any nation to be able to be able to distill models from any other ones? Like, My personal answer is no. I think that there's value in like, even like as AI gains and capabilities being really …”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 29:01 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Krieger agrees with Alexandr Wang: Most future friends will be AI
“I've had so many conversations with Alex Wang about this because he has this whole thing about how in the future most friends will be AI friends. And you know, I don't think he's wrong.”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 57:23 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Krieger: Top token users do not correlate with top performers
“We found that there's not a lot of correlation between [10288] Mike Krieger: Like the person who's using the most tokens and like the person that I like, it's an interesting thought. I just made you at your companies like write down your 10 most productive peo…”
Mike Krieger Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 2:51:24 Big Technology AI Summit (full): Greg Brockman, Mike Krieger, Aaron Levie & Friends of The Podcast
Krieger: Instagram could have reached sale with 4 to 6 people using AI
“I think we could have gotten there with like four to six, you know?”
Mike Krieger Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 2:56:53 Big Technology AI Summit (full): Greg Brockman, Mike Krieger, Aaron Levie & Friends of The Podcast
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Krieger: Anthropic found little correlation between employee token usage and actual productivity.
“We found that there's not a lot of correlation between Like the person who's using the most tokens and like the person that I like, it's an interesting thought. I just made you at your companies like write down your 10 most productive people that you think a…”
Mike Krieger Jun 25, 2026 ▶ 31:52 Anthropic's Labs Lead On Fable's Capabilities + Building AI-Native Products — With Mike Krieger
Krieger: AI would have allowed Instagram to scale with just 4-6 employees.
“I think we could have gotten there with like four to six, you know?”
Mike Krieger Jun 25, 2026 ▶ 37:22 Anthropic's Labs Lead On Fable's Capabilities + Building AI-Native Products — With Mike Krieger
Anthropic's Claude Code team uses Claude to write and review itself
“The team that works in the most futuristic way is the Claude code team, because they're using Claude code to build Claude code in a very self-improving kind of way. And, you know, early on in that project, they would do very line by line pull request reviews, …”
Mike Krieger Jun 5, 2025 ▶ 15:49 Anthropic's CPO on what comes next | Mike Krieger (co-founder of Instagram)
LENNY'S PODCAST Prediction Not checkable as stated
Mike Krieger expects AI to autonomously resolve user feedback by 2025
“Hey, I'm in the discord, the, you know, the, Cloud anthropic discord. I'm in the user for I'm on X and I'm reading things and like, here's what's emergent. That's step one. Models can do that today. Step two, which the models probably can do today. We just hav…”
Mike Krieger Jun 5, 2025 ▶ 19:41 Anthropic's CPO on what comes next | Mike Krieger (co-founder of Instagram)
Mike Krieger says MCP is more promising for agents than computer use
“To really have agency and have these agentic use cases. Like one way you approach it is computer use, but computer use has a bunch of limitations. The way I get way more excited about everything is an MCP and our models are really good at using MCPs. All of a …”
Mike Krieger Jun 5, 2025 ▶ 58:05 Anthropic's CPO on what comes next | Mike Krieger (co-founder of Instagram)
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Krieger: AI foundation models will differentiate over time, not converge
“I think models over time get more different rather than more similar.”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 8:16 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Opinion
Krieger: DeepSeek's cutting-edge AI capabilities should not surprise observers
“I think the DeepSync piece, people seem surprised that there were cutting-edge research teams there, and if you were paying attention, that part should not have been the surprising piece.”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 0:11 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Krieger: AI Startups Need Domain Knowledge and Proprietary Data for Long-Term Value
“My sense of where it ends up being most valuable to exist is places where you have some differentiated go to market, some differentiated knowledge of some particular industry or some special data that only you have access to ideally two or even three of those …”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 1:38 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Krieger: Selling pure API token access is a terminal failure mode
“I think the more you are just, like, maybe it's good inverting that all to see, like, what the failure mode looks like. I think it is resting on your laurels or not retaining your best people. Just believing that making the models incrementally better in every…”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 9:55 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Krieger: Creating multi-step task environments is the main AI blocker
“Figuring out how we better either break that down into component parts, which is probably part of the story, but also think about it holistically is the biggest blocker to at least one slice of progress, which is how do models go from being extremely good at e…”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 12:38 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Krieger: Top AI models will require both human and synthetic data
“So I think it absolutely has to be a mix. And I think the best models will come from that combination of great, like for code it's, you know, being, having good foundational understanding of code and good examples, but then also being able to explore a really …”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 14:20 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Opinion
Krieger: Underestimating China's frontier AI capabilities is a mistake
“It was absolutely. Be a mistake to have underestimated or continue to underestimate like China's ability to both train at the frontier especially like if they get access to compute and then continue to innovate there too.”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 32:52 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Open · timeframe Mar 2028
Krieger: Anthropic will build general-purpose software, not bespoke vertical AI
“We are going to be building things that are general purpose as a rule with maybe some specialization at the, like, user level, but not at the, I don't anticipate us building a lot of verticalized experiences that are, like, fairly bespoke to a given workflow o…”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 38:51 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Open · timeframe Mar 2028
Krieger: Anthropic is focusing on agentic tools, not building an IDE
“So when I think about the coding space and where we can play and add value, it really is on the agentic side. It's not on the ID side.”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 43:04 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Krieger: AI coding models cannot run autonomously for hours without humans
“Recognize that they're not yet at the place where for many use cases, you can let them kind of run free for hours. You need that more human in the loop piece.”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 43:28 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Krieger: Software engineers will become AI delegators within three years
“How do we evolve from being mostly code writers to mostly Delegators to the models and code reviewers. That's what I think the work looks like three years from now. It's coming up with the right ideas, doing the right user interaction design, figuring out a de…”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 45:32 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Krieger: AI models are three-plus years from solving product strategy
“That, that's still a very human problem that I think we're at least three years away from the models being, being solving at that level of abstraction.”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 48:24 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Disclosure
Krieger: Anthropic became overly calcified by adopting a large company playbook
“We got too calcified, I think. And like, oh, well, this is on this team's plate versus this team's plate. And oh, you can't get this done this quarter because it's not on this team.”
Mike Krieger Mar 3, 2025 ▶ 51:57 Mike Krieger, Instagram CoFounder & Anthropic CPO: Where Will Value Be Created in an AI World?|E1265 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings

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Statements about Mike Krieger, by other people (8)

20VC Insight
Systrom: Founders must rely on dashboards over gut feelings during volatility
“Just trust the instruments. And like, my god, we have instruments, dashboards, et cetera, just trust the instruments. Forget about what people are saying, forget about what issue you had yesterday with the server, trust the instruments. And it doesn't make it …”
Kevin Systrom Feb 22, 2023 ▶ 1:16:43 Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger: The Founders of Instagram Reveal their New Project "Artifact" | E981 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
LENNY'S PODCAST Assertion Partly supported
Rachitsky: Anthropic CPO claimed Dario Amodei's past predictions were all accurate
“I actually had Mike on the podcast, their CPO, Mike Krieger, and he pointed out that Dario, every prediction he's had so far has been right over the past few years.”
Lenny Rachitsky Jul 3, 2025 ▶ 58:10 I’ve run 75+ businesses. Here’s why you’re probably chasing the wrong idea. | Andrew Wilkinson
Deng: Indecision harms startups more than being wrong with conviction
“Having a strong point of view is really important because like, you know, there's a saying that Mike and Kevin had it at Instagram, which is we may not be right, but at least we're not confused. I think that just, it was, it's a beautiful phrase. I thought, be…”
Peter Deng Jun 22, 2025 ▶ 1:40:55 From ChatGPT to Instagram to Uber: The quiet architect behind the world’s most popular products
Systrom left Facebook due to exhaustion and desire for new projects
“That's why I think we ended up leaving, because you want a little break and recovery time, and then my personality is such that I'm excited about doing something new. Like, I, I'm just like, I'm always on to some new idea, And I don't know, it probably won't b…”
Kevin Systrom Dec 19, 2019 ▶ 7:59 Live From The HIBT Summit: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger Of Instagram
LENNY'S PODCAST Assertion Not checkable as stated
Mike Krieger told Avasare he was his only cold-email PM hire
“He said, I'm the only PM that he's hired from cold email.”
Amol Avasare Apr 5, 2026 ▶ 5:24 Head of Growth (Anthropic): Anthropic is automating its own growth
BIG TECHNOLOGY Assertion Supported
Kantrowitz: Former Instagram Executives Now Lead Product at OpenAI and Anthropic
“At Anthropic, it is Mike Krieger. The co-founder of Instagram. Yep. At OpenAI, it's Kevin Wheel, the former head of product, At Instagram.”
Alex Kantrowitz Apr 19, 2025 ▶ 41:14 Is OpenAI's o3 Model AGI? Is AI The New Social Media? Zuck's Revealing Testimony
20VC Disclosure
Systrom: Instagram co-founders met in person only five times last year
“Mike and I haven't done a remote company before. We've seen each other how many times in person in the last year? Like, five?”
Kevin Systrom Feb 22, 2023 ▶ 5:16 Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger: The Founders of Instagram Reveal their New Project "Artifact" | E981 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Systrom: Smartphone cameras would spark a visual communication revolution
“The fact that like these devices had a camera that would lead to a visual communication revolution where like all of a sudden people weren't just communicating with text and voice, but they had the chance to communicate with an image.”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 2:28 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)

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