Kevin Systrom

Co-founder, Instagram · 3 appearances on the record.

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Kevin Systrom is the co-founder and former CEO of Instagram, which was acquired by Facebook in 2012. He later co-founded the AI-driven news application Artifact, whose technology was acquired by Yahoo in 2024.

32statements → 24claims → 10claims resolved → 70%fully supported → 3.97/5average certainty → 1.41/5average debate potential → ≈4.5/5argument clarity, estimated → 22said about them ↓

7 supported 2 partly supported 1 contradicted 14 not checkable as stated how the 24 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

24 assertions · 2 opinions · 4 insights · 2 disclosures · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 24 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 10 are resolved, and 14 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Kevin argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Assertion Supported
Systrom: Instagram's first filter and photo were created in Mexico
“I literally just, like, researched how to make the first filter, which ended up being called X-Pro II, and if you scroll all the way back on my account to the very first photo, there's Nicole's foot and a little stray dog in Mexico, and that's because that day…”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 9:03 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
Systrom: Instagram grew because prior photo apps were closed, friends-only networks
“If you look at every photo service before then, it was basically a closed-only, friends-only network, and we were the first ones to really open that up.”
Kevin Systrom Sep 19, 2016 ▶ 18:51 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger

Expressed certainty vs assessment result

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How they sound: not measured why? →

We measure speaking style by listening to the audio itself, and a fair number needs at least 2,000 words from one person on tape we have measured. There is too little of Kevin Systrom on measured tape to publish a rate. This says nothing about how they speak.

Everything Kevin Systrom said on How I Built This that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion
Systrom admits social media is not a force for kindness
“Is social media in general a force for kindness? No.”
Kevin Systrom Dec 19, 2019 ▶ 11:39 Live From The HIBT Summit: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger Of Instagram
Insight
Systrom: Choosing an open network model drove Instagram's sustained growth
“I believe the thing that kept it growing was we created an open network.”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 18:50 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)
Assertion Contradicted
Systrom: Instagram grew because prior photo apps were closed, friends-only networks
“If you look at every photo service before then, it was basically a closed-only, friends-only network, and we were the first ones to really open that up.”
Kevin Systrom Sep 19, 2016 ▶ 18:51 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Systrom: We copied our first Terms of Service from another site
“We had these terms of service that we had I think effectively copied from some other site way back in the day and just find and replace their name with Instagram because we were a startup and we didn't know what we were doing.”
Kevin Systrom Sep 19, 2016 ▶ 23:10 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Systrom: Instagram never actually intended to use user photos in ads
“One of the sections Reading it again today, if I look at it, can be interpreted that we were going to take user photos and somehow use them in advertising. That was definitely not our intention, and like, no one in the company had even thought of that idea.”
Kevin Systrom Sep 19, 2016 ▶ 23:37 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger
Disclosure
Systrom left Facebook due to exhaustion and desire for new projects
“That's why I think we ended up leaving, because you want a little break and recovery time, and then my personality is such that I'm excited about doing something new. Like, I, I'm just like, I'm always on to some new idea, And I don't know, it probably won't b…”
Kevin Systrom Dec 19, 2019 ▶ 7:59 Live From The HIBT Summit: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger Of Instagram
Insight
Systrom: Investor interest in Silicon Valley instantly attracts other investors
“The second someone shows any interest in you in Silicon Valley, all of a sudden you have a bunch of other people that really want to invest.”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 5:57 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)
Assertion Supported
Systrom: Instagram's first filter and photo were created in Mexico
“I literally just, like, researched how to make the first filter, which ended up being called X-Pro II, and if you scroll all the way back on my account to the very first photo, there's Nicole's foot and a little stray dog in Mexico, and that's because that day…”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 9:03 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Systrom: Instagram's original Terms of Service were copied from another site
“We had these terms of service that we had I think effectively copied from some other site way back in the day and just find and replace their name with Instagram because we were a startup and we didn't know what we were doing.”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 23:42 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Systrom: Instagram account deletions dropped to zero after apology blog post
“And Mike and I sat down and we were like, what do we do? And we felt helpless. I mean, it was like all over, it was that first day all over again. It's like, we've screwed this up. How do we make sure people know? And I went back in my head. I was like, why do…”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 24:41 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)
Opinion
Systrom: Instagram's success was 50% luck
“I'd say 50%.”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 25:38 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)
Insight
Systrom: Silicon Valley investors suffer from immediate herd FOMO
“But the second someone shows any interest in you in Silicon Valley, all of a sudden you have a bunch of other people that really want to invest.”
Kevin Systrom Sep 19, 2016 ▶ 5:26 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Systrom: Account deletions dropped to zero after our Terms of Service apology
“I posted this blog post on our blog. You can probably still find it online. And I was like, we're sorry. Like, we didn't mean this. That's absolutely not what we're trying to do. And we tweeted about it. And actually the graph of deletions at that moment drops…”
Kevin Systrom Sep 19, 2016 ▶ 24:23 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger
Assertion Supported
Instagram grew from 40M users at acquisition to over 1B
“You know, we sold it and it was how many million users? Maybe 30 or forty million users. And we got it to over a billion.”
Kevin Systrom Dec 19, 2019 ▶ 7:00 Live From The HIBT Summit: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger Of Instagram
Assertion Supported
Instagram grew from 13 employees at acquisition to over 1,000
“When you're inside of a large company that has grown from, you know, 13 people at the acquisition to, you know, we were probably over a thousand towards the end, you get wired in a certain way to think a certain way and talk a certain way and that unwiring tak…”
Kevin Systrom Dec 19, 2019 ▶ 17:07 Live From The HIBT Summit: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger Of Instagram
Insight
Systrom: Smartphone cameras would spark a visual communication revolution
“The fact that like these devices had a camera that would lead to a visual communication revolution where like all of a sudden people weren't just communicating with text and voice, but they had the chance to communicate with an image.”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 2:28 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)
Assertion Supported
Systrom: Andreessen Horowitz invested $250,000 in Instagram's seed round
“And that initial check went from 50,000 to 250,000 dollars. And then there was another investor, Andreessen Horwitz, who came in and put 250,000 dollars in.”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 6:08 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Systrom: Instagram took eight weeks from initial sketch to App Store launch
“It was only eight weeks from the time we had basically sketched it out to when we put it into the Apple store.”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 9:55 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Systrom: Instagram gained 25,000 users within its first 24 hours
“The first 24 hours we had 20 5000 people sign up around the world, which sounded big to us at the time.”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 10:15 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Systrom: Instagram launched hosted on a single computer in Los Angeles
“It was a single computer in a co-location space somewhere in LA.”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 10:54 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)
Disclosure
Systrom: Instagram raised $8M Series A at roughly $30M valuation
“It was, I think our first round was like, I don't remember. It was like, we took eight million dollars of financing on like a 20 pre, so like roughly a thirty million dollar valuation or something.”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 14:59 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Systrom: Justin Bieber signing up drove viral adoption among teens
“And I remember Justin Bieber signing up, and the world going kind of bonkers for that as well, and by world, I mean teenage girls, and they basically started using the app incessantly, and it kind of took off with, like, a bunch of really young people as well.”
Kevin Systrom Nov 13, 2017 ▶ 21:03 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017)
Assertion Supported
Systrom: Investor Steve Anderson required a co-founder before investing in Burbn
“But he actually said one thing to me, he goes, before I do this, you have to find a co-founder that's willing to do this with you.”
Kevin Systrom Sep 19, 2016 ▶ 3:55 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger
Assertion Supported
Systrom: Instagram raised a $500K seed on just a prototype
“And that initial check went from 50,000 to 250,000 dollars. And then there was another investor, Andreessen Horwitz, who came in and put 250,000 dollars in. So here are two guys with, like, basically a prototype and a couple of computers, no office who raised …”
Kevin Systrom Sep 19, 2016 ▶ 5:37 Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger

Show 8statements(8 left)

The other half of the tape: Kevin Systrom's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 21 times in 13 episodes on How I Built This. 1 statement on the record names them. every mention, with the transcript →

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Statements about Kevin Systrom, by other people (1)

Assertion Supported
Kevin Systrom and Jack Dorsey paired to build Odeo's desktop podcatcher
“We also had Kevin Systrom, founder of Instagram. Was working for us as an intern. So, Kevin and Jack paired to write our, I think our installable podcatcher, as we called them.”
Ev Williams May 6, 2024 ▶ 39:29 Twitter, Medium and Blogger: Ev Williams

Every mention by year

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2025 4 mentions in 1 episode
2024 3 mentions in 2 episodes 2 per episode
2023 2 mentions in 2 episodes 1 per episode
2021 2 mentions in 1 episode
2020 2 mentions in 1 episode
2019 5 mentions in 5 episodes 1 per episode
2018 3 mentions in 1 episode

Appearances (3)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
Live From The HIBT Summit: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger Of Instagram Dec 19, 2019 9m
Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger (2017) Nov 13, 2017 14m
Instagram: Kevin Systrom & Mike Krieger Sep 19, 2016 14m
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