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Melanie Perkins

Co-Founder & CEO, Canva. On 3 shows, 5 appearances. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.

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Melanie Perkins is the co-founder and CEO of visual design platform Canva. Prior to Canva, she co-founded the online yearbook design system Fusion Books.

3shows
5appearances
85statements
22resolved
21supported
0contradicted
95%fully supported
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Everything Melanie Perkins said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.

20VC Opinion
Hiring elite engineering talent in Sydney is easier than in San Francisco
“So we've been very fortunate that it's a lot easier here, I think, to find incredible engineers than it is perhaps in San Francisco.”
Melanie Perkins Jun 10, 2016 ▶ 9:09 20VC: Start Niche, Move Broader & Become Profitable Quickly with Melanie Perkins, Founder & CEO @ Canva
Perkins: Realistic goals lead to giving up when roadblocks hit
“If you start with a Reasonable goal or a realistic goal, then you kind of get to get to when you're like, oh, cool, whatever. Or more importantly, if something happens, you know, all the problems and roadblocks come along as they always do, then you're like, o…”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 16:09 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
Perkins: Most early investors knew nothing about design or Canva's market
“Most investors knew absolutely nothing about design or the industry that we're in.”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 27:42 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
LENNY'S PODCAST Assertion Supported
Perkins: Canva donates $1.5B worth of software annually
“Between our education product and our nonprofit program, where we also give away our paid product for free, We've, we're giving away 1.5 billion dollars of product a year now”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 44:49 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
Founders should answer their hardest investor objections immediately in the pitch deck
“Every time we got a really hard question, that would go right to the front of the pitch deck. So the hardest questions were answered right at the front.”
Melanie Perkins Jan 28, 2019 ▶ 22:37 Canva: Melanie Perkins
Melanie Perkins: No publishing market leader has ever survived an era transition
“And what you'll see, dear investor, is that no industry player has actually ever been able to go from one industry to the next and actually still maintain being the market leader. And so every single time there was a new era, a new market leader emerged.”
Melanie Perkins Jan 28, 2019 ▶ 24:24 Canva: Melanie Perkins
20VC Insight
Starting Canva in Perth forced the team to build without standard VC playbooks
“Because in Perth, there really wasn't much of a VC scene at all, and so it meant that we were sort of just starting out a company without really knowing that there was a whole brand of other companies from our tribe, so we're sort of figuring everything out as…”
Melanie Perkins Jun 10, 2016 ▶ 13:29 20VC: Start Niche, Move Broader & Become Profitable Quickly with Melanie Perkins, Founder & CEO @ Canva
20VC Insight
Canva iterated its pitch deck over 100 times to pre-answer investor objections
“Every time we got feedback back from investors, whether or not it was positive or negative, we'd incorporate that back into our pitch deck and we continuously refined it. And so, at the start, we started off with a pitch deck that was just a few pages, and by …”
Melanie Perkins Jun 10, 2016 ▶ 14:31 20VC: Start Niche, Move Broader & Become Profitable Quickly with Melanie Perkins, Founder & CEO @ Canva
Perkins: Transformative building requires working backward from an ideal future
“Most planning is often done by looking at the bricks and trying to stack them. And then you kind of, you know, you can create only so much. And so I guess the column B thinking is thinking about what is that magical, wonderful Future. That you then want to inv…”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 6:14 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
Perkins: Canva achieves ambitious goals despite inaccurate delivery timing
“I think with a crazy big goal, the thing we have been really great at is achieving them. The timeframe that we achieve them on has not always been very reliable. We have certainly not been able to have pin dart. What's the, what's it? We have not been very acc…”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 18:51 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
Perkins: Internal systems break every time a company doubles in size
“Like every time the company doubles in size, pretty much all your systems break, all the things that were working don't work.”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 22:36 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
LENNY'S PODCAST Assertion Supported
Perkins: Canva spent two years without shipping product during codebase rewrite
“We were doing a front-end rewrite, and we thought it would take about six months. It was really important because it was critical for cross-platform, it was critical for right to left, it was Critical because we could only have five people working in our edito…”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 23:42 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
Perkins: Copying organizational playbooks from other companies rarely fits your company's foundation
“And it's kind of like building a house that you want every brick in the house to match. And if you go and try and take some bricks from someone else's house and stick it in your house, it's probably going to not look very matched. And so trying to find things …”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 31:30 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
Perkins: Most companies' daily execution diverges from their stated mission
“Often people have a mission that's kind of on the wall somewhere, and then what they're actually doing and the way they actually make money And the way that, you know, the way people actually spend their time is in a very, very different direction from that or…”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 35:07 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
Perkins does not keep work email on her phone
“I don't have emails like on my phone, and so when I shut my laptop, I actually tune out, and then I, if there's a real issue, I'll get an emergency call or page.”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 37:18 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
Perkins: Testing 10 random online users yields representative product feedback
“It's amazing to me how you can find 10 random people on the internet and they can give such astute feedback. That then is so representative for such a large number of people.”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 39:43 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
Perkins: Co-founders pledged 30% Canva equity to philanthropy
“Cliff and I owned a little over 30% of Canva, and so we decided we were going to take 30% of Canva and use it to do the most good we can do.”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 41:35 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
Perkins: Canva pledges $100M over four years to fight extreme poverty
“Announce that we're going to be giving another hundred million dollars over the next four years to people in extreme poverty.”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 42:12 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
LENNY'S PODCAST Assertion Supported
Perkins: Canva's free education product reaches 100M monthly users
“Education product is now used by a hundred million people each month.”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 44:22 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
LENNY'S PODCAST Assertion Not checkable as stated
Perkins: 100 million people design presentations in Canva monthly
“Like a hundred million people, I design a presentation in Canva for each month now.”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 47:39 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
Perkins: Canva sits directly between creativity and productivity suites
“From a macro perspective, there was creativity tools and productivity tools, and what Canva really does is we're literally smack bang in the middle of that Venn diagram of creativity and productivity rather than making a Customers have to make a choice between…”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 49:57 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
Perkins: AI shouldn't be front-and-center just for investor hype
“Just because AI is all the rage and investors really like AI, doesn't necessarily mean it should be front and center in, but if it can genuinely help your customers to achieve their goals, so, you know, the thing that I was mentioning before, enabling people…”
Melanie Perkins Nov 2, 2025 ▶ 53:17 She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins
Perkins believed desktop-based graphic design software was destined to become archaic
“It seemed very apparent that this whole desktop-based thing would be completely archaic and outdated in the future.”
Melanie Perkins Mar 1, 2021 ▶ 3:48 Canva: Melanie Perkins (2019)
Perkins predicted publishing and design tools would converge into one online platform
“One of them was that over time, industries would converge. So rather than having the print industry being over here, having to use different software to create a website, and different software to create a presentation, and different software to create marketi…”
Melanie Perkins Mar 1, 2021 ▶ 14:17 Canva: Melanie Perkins (2019)

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The other half of the tape: Melanie Perkins's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 80 times in 14 episodes across the shows. 5 statements on the record name them. every mention, with the transcript →

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Statements about Melanie Perkins, by other people (5)

20VC Disclosure
Canva co-founders pledged 99 percent of their equity to charity
“Mel and I, we own 31% of Canva, and we put 30%, so like 99% of what we own in, into a charity that we can't spend on our own stuff”
Cliff Obrecht Jan 27, 2023 ▶ 42:08 Canva's Cliff Obrecht: How We Turned Our Yearbook Company to $40B Business | 20VC #971 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Supported
Canva lowered its 2026 revenue growth forecast from 30% to 20%
“The facts are that Canva You know, large privately held company in the kind of creative suite space discloses its revenue, even though they're private, and, you know, they were at three billion in gap revenue last year. Going into this year, they're growing at…”
Rory O'Driscoll Aug 12, 2026 ▶ 1:46 Canva Slashes Growth | Talent Exodus at Google | Revolut's $50B CEO Package | Musk's $55B Terrafab
Working with Canva's married co-founders requires transparency around after-hours alignment
“It is always tricky working with a couple because They're on it 24 seven. When you leave the office and they head home, they're still talking about product business strategy, all the things. I think they've done a really good job of Evolving those ideas overni…”
Cameron Adams Jun 2, 2024 ▶ 28:22 Inside Canva: Coaches not managers, giving away your Legos, and embracing AI | Cameron Adams
20VC Disclosure
Canva's Obrecht: Melanie Perkins and I take opposite approaches to building trust
“Mel and I are completely, so Mel is my wife and the CEO of Canva. So my boss which is and definitely the worthy boss. But we have totally opposite ends of the spectrum when it comes to trust. So I trust by default and you can lose that trust. Mel, it takes a l…”
Cliff Obrecht Jan 27, 2023 ▶ 10:00 Canva's Cliff Obrecht: How We Turned Our Yearbook Company to $40B Business | 20VC #971 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Opinion
Canva's phenomenal user growth mirrors Google Analytics' mass-market expansion playbook
“And that's what, you know, I think that's what Cliff and Melanie at Clamba have done. It's absolutely amazing. If you look at their user base, if you look at the forums, if you look at their incredible growth, Over the, even the past year has been nothing shor…”
Wesley Chan Jun 29, 2016 ▶ 20:57 20VC: Felicis' Wesley Chan on The Rise of IoT, Getting Recruited by Larry Page & Creating Google's Biggest Success Disaster

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HOW I BUILT THISLEDGER Co-Founder & CEO, Canva 3 44 91% 10/11 full record on How I Built This →
LENNY'S PODCASTLEDGER Co-Founder & CEO, Canva 1 28 100% 6/6 full record on Lenny's Podcast →
20VCLEDGER Co-Founder & CEO, Canva 1 13 100% 5/5 full record on 20VC →
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