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Perkins: Testing 10 random online users yields representative product feedback

Melanie Perkins · She turned 100+ rejections into a $42B company | Melanie Perkins · Nov 2, 2025 · at 39:43

Canva CEO Melanie Perkins highlights the efficiency and predictive power of small-sample online user testing.

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“It's amazing to me how you can find 10 random people on the internet and they can give such astute feedback. That then is so representative for such a large number of people.”

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