Demis Hassabis
CEO & Co-Founder, Isomorphic Labs. On 5 shows, 6 appearances, plus 1 compilation re-air not counted. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.
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He co-founded DeepMind and spearheaded landmark AI milestones such as AlphaGo and AlphaFold, receiving the 2024 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for protein structure prediction. In addition to leading frontier AI efforts at Alphabet, he founded Isomorphic Labs to advance drug discovery.
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344said about them ↓ Everything Demis Hassabis said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.
Hassabis predicts AGI will arrive around 2030
“Depending on what your AGI timeline is, You know, mine's like, 20, 30 or something like this.”
Hassabis: Google and DeepMind developed 90% of modern AI breakthroughs
“I would say about 90% of the breakthroughs that underpin the modern AI industry were done either by Google Brain or Google Research or DeepMind, so one of our groups.”
Hassabis: There is a very good chance AGI arrives within five years
“I mean, I think, look, I've got a probability distribution around the timings, but I would say there's a very good chance of it being within the next five years.”
Hassabis Predicts True AGI Is Five To Ten Years Away
“I think an AGI system would have to be able to do all of those things to really fulfill the original sort of goal of the AI field. And I think, you know, we're five to 10 years away from that.”
Hassabis: AI might solve a Millennium Prize math problem within years
“When I say just, we're now talking about just like solving the Riemann hypothesis or something. This would be obviously amazing. Well, one of the Millennium Prize problems, and maybe we're a couple of years out from doing that.”
Hassabis: AGI impact will be 10x the Industrial Revolution at 10x speed
“I sometimes quantify the coming of AGI as 10 times the industrial revolution at 10 times the speed.”
Demis Hassabis Rejects Yann LeCun's Stance That LLMs Are A Dead End
“No matter what camp you're in, we're gonna need Large foundation models as the key component of the final AGI systems. Of that, I'm sure. So, I don't, I'm not subscriber to someone like Jan LeCun who thinks, you know, that there's sort of some kind of dead end…”
Hassabis: AGI Must Mean Matching All Human Cognitive Capabilities
“I don't think AGI should be sort of turned into a marketing term or for commercial gain. I think there is always been a scientific definition of that. My definition of that is a system that that can exhibit all the cognitive capabilities humans can. And I mean…”
Hassabis dismisses competitor claims of PhD-level AI intelligence as nonsense
“So you often hear some of our competitors talk about you know, these modern systems that we have today are PhD intelligences. I think that's a nonsense. They're not PhD intelligences. They have some capabilities that are PhD level but they're not in general ca…”
Hassabis predicts true AGI is five to ten years away
“So I think that we are maybe, you know, I would say sort of five to 10 years away from having an AGI system that's capable of doing those things.”
Hassabis predicts achieving AGI requires one or two fundamental new breakthroughs
“And so, a lot of these, I think, core capabilities are still missing, and maybe scaling will get us there, but I feel, if I was to bet, I think there are probably one or two missing breakthroughs that are still required and will come over the next five, five o…”
Hassabis predicts AI could shorten drug discovery to days within a decade
“I think we could reduce down drug discovery from taking years, sometimes a decade to do, down to maybe weeks, or even days over the next 10 years.”
Demis Hassabis predicts AGI is three to five years away
“I think you know, I would say probably like three to five years away.”
Demis Hassabis expects Google spinout Isomorphic Labs to cure all diseases
“One is curing all diseases one day. Which I think we're going to do with isomorphic and the work we're doing there or our spin out, our drug discovery spin out.”
Hassabis: Current AI paradigms will be part of final AGI architecture
“The components that you just mentioned, I'm pretty sure will be part of the final architecture for AGI. So I think they've come such a long way now and we've proven out so many things about what they can do. I can't see a world in which we will sort of realize…”
Hassabis: 50% chance AGI requires one or two new big ideas
“It could be that there's still one or two big ideas left that need to be cracked. I don't think it's more than one or two, if there are out there. And I think You know, my betting is about fifty-fifty if that's the case.”
Hassabis: Next few years of AI advances will come from RL and search
“And I think a lot of those ideas, both from AlphaGo and AlphaZero are really, really relevant to where we are with today's foundation models. And I think a lot of that is what we're going to see of the advances the next few years.”
Hassabis: All leading foundation models are poor at playing games
“That all the leading foundation models are pretty poor at games, which is quite interesting.”
Hassabis: Fixing AI reasoning gaps may only require one or two tweaks
“So there's just sort of huge gaps, I think, still, but it may only be one or two tweaks that are required to fix those kind of gaps, just to be clear, but I think that's pretty, pretty obvious there are there, and that's why you get this kind of jagged intelli…”
Hassabis: Active agent systems are the necessary path to AGI
“You have to have an active system that can actively solve problems for you to get to AGI. That was always clear to us. So agents are that path.”
Hassabis: AI agents will deliver full commercial value in 6 to 12 months
“I haven't seen the result yet, which I would expect once this is really delivering that full value, which I think will come in the next six to 12 months.”
Hassabis: DeepMind makes edge models open because on-device models are vulnerable anyway
“For now, what we've decided is that our edge models, the things we want to use for Android, and glasses, and robotics it's best that they're open models. Because they're vulnerable anyway on the, once you put them out on the surfaces, so they might as well be …”
Hassabis doubts inference will ever be free due to Jevons' paradox
“Yeah, I'm not sure inference will ever be essentially free. I mean, there's sort of Jevon's paradox and other things about like, I think we'll just end up using All of us will end up using whatever we can get our hands on, and you could imagine millions of age…”
The other half of the tape: Demis Hassabis's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 323 times in 123 episodes across the shows. 21 statements on the record name them. every mention, with the transcript →
Who brings them up most Alex Kantrowitz 98John Coogan 44Harry Stebbings 24M.G. Siegler 19David Friedberg 18Jordi Hays 14Jason Calacanis 13Stephen Morris 6
Statements about Demis Hassabis, by other people (21)
Podjarny: Near-term AGI claims correlate with founders' continuous need to raise capital
“I think that's absolutely true. And there's incentives. Incentives are not always nefarious. Sometimes it's just your view of the world is biased by the things that you want to believe.”
Kantrowitz: Demis Hassabis Refocusing on Fundamental Science Is Good for AI
“So I actually think it's good for AI that Demis will be focusing more on the scientific side, probably more on the world model side and not deeply in LLM. So you'll have basically the talent that open AI and anthropic and potentially what's left of the AI orga…”
Demis Hassabis Was Disengaged From DeepMind Management Before Stepping Down
“Sources tell me he's already been disengaged from day-to-day management for a while now, but he was a firewall between DeepMind and the rest of Google, even as the two got pulled closer over the last couple of years.”
Demis Hassabis steps down as Google DeepMind CEO for Alphabet role
“He announced that he's stepping down as CEO of Google DeepMind. He's also stepping up into the role of Google DeepMind chairman, and he will also be Alphabet's chief scientist.”
Demis Hassabis rejected higher Facebook offer because Mark Zuckerberg misunderstood AI's potential
“Facebook offered more money, but I wanted somebody who really understood why AI would be bigger than all those things. And then he sold to Google.”
Levie: Google is not going to lose the AI coding battle
“This is a company that has A great operator in Sundar, an incredible, you know, AI innovator in, in Demis Jeff Dean, you know, deep on research and science, and then now this kind of hardcore founder in Sergei, like this is not a company that is going to lose …”
Demis Hassabis acknowledges AI progress is slowing and taking longer
“Even Demis, you know, when you talk to him, he noted that he doesn't necessarily believe in, in, you know, a wall being hit, but he did acknowledge that things are slowing and it'll just take longer to get more, you know, juice out of the squeeze as it were.”
Demis Hassabis Spent Years Trying to Separate DeepMind Into a Non-Profit
“Demis tried to break away from Google and also become something like a non-profit. He spent years trying to do that, and spent a lot of money and time trying to do that, and they both failed to create these structures of Responsible governance.”
Matt Clifford: CCP Restrictions Hinder China From Producing Untrammeled AGI Founders
“And I think in China, as we've seen in other parts of the tech industry in China, the CCP is very nervous about entrepreneurs being given that much room. And so I think that it's not trivial to create the conditions in which a Chinese Sam Altman or a Chinese D…”
Kantrowitz: Demis Hassabis has stepped down as Google DeepMind CEO
“Demis Hassabis stepped down as the CEO of Google DeepMind.”
Demis Hassabis Steps Down as Google DeepMind CEO in Leadership Shakeup
“Demis Asabas is stepping down as chief executive for Google DeepMind to become chairman and chief scientist. Google CEO Sundar Pichai said in a post on X. Google DeepMind technology chief Koray Kavukcholu is taking on responsibility for all AI model developmen…”
Hassabis: Google Has No Immediate Plans for Ads in Gemini
“He said we have no plan at no plans at the moment to do ads. If you're talking about the Gemini app specifically, I think we're obviously going to watch very carefully the outcome of what ChatGPT is saying they're going to do. I think that has to be handled ve…”
Demis Hassabis Set Winning a Nobel Prize as a Goal for DeepMind
“And Demis also has an incredible almost obsession with winning a Nobel prize. This is what I've heard from people who worked with him. That was kind of the goals that he put for the company.”
Hassabis paper advocates for pre-release frontier AI evaluation and standards body
“The last substantial piece that Demis put out was called The Framework for Frontier AI and the Dawning of New Age, in which he argues for a frontier AI standards body that evaluates frontier models before they're released for risks associated with superintelli…”
Ibrahim: Hassabis greenlit infusing learning science into Gemini when model matured
“Over the past few years, we've been doing a lot of work around one science area, learning science. How do people learn and can we improve it? And then this year was really, Dennis was like, okay, Gemini is good enough. It's time to infuse Everything we've done…”
Adler: Hassabis and Amodei would slow AI pace if they were sole players
“And so at Davos a few weeks ago, I think both Demis and Dario said some variation of, yeah, like if we were the only two groups building this technology, We would find a way to get together and figure out how to slow down this frantic pace. Like it's going too…”
Coogan: Google DeepMind does not need outside funding, relies on cash flow
“Demis doesn't need to raise. Google's doing this with cash flow. Like, that's true for every other lab lead except for demos.”
Coogan: DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis reportedly has no plans for Gemini ads
“Demis Hassabis from Google told Alex Heath at Sources that, that he has no plan, no plans to put ads in Gemini.”
Olson: Hassabis Was First to Launch an AGI-Focused Company in 2010
“Demis did it first. He was actually the first kind of put his neck on the line as a among the scientific community to do something that was really a fringe theory back in the, in 2010 and started a company that actually wanted to build human level AI.”
Msg.ai raised seed round backed by DeepMind and OpenAI founders
“We raised the seed round around October last year. We were fortunate to have you know, some of the best AI people be in that round. The founders of Google, DeepMind, Tamis and Mustafa the CTO of OpenAI, Greg Brockman, the chief scientist at the New York Times,…”
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Big Technology 145
TBPN 95
All-In 45
20VC 34
the Y Combinator Startup Podcast 4
2026 203 mentions in 61 episodes 3 per episode
- Demis Steps Down, Apple’s Memory Problem, Microsoft’s Clever Trick
- Demis Is Out as DeepMind CEO, Revolut Founder Yacht Drama, AI’s Great Reverse Bank Run | Diet TBPN
- OpenAI’s $50 Billion Fundraise, AI Advertising Game Theory, Apple’s AI Wearable Pin
- Can AI Become Conscious? — With Michael Pollan
- Dario Defends Himself, Datacenter Panic, AI Doomer Trap, Senate Toss-Up
- Can the AI Industry Regulate Itself? Stripe Wants PayPal, China Catches Up, NY Bans Datacenters
- How Google DeepMind Operates & Experiments — With Lila Ibrahim and James Manyika
- Kling AI reaches 12M MAU, China's aging tech worker crisis, drama at ThinkingMachine | Diet TBPN
- 53 more episodes that year, every mention in 2026 →
2025 83 mentions in 47 episodes 2 per episode
- OpenAI's Jony Ive Moment, Anthropic's Big New Model, Google In AI Mode
- Weekly Recap: Tesla's Crazy Plan, USA vs. Google, Palantir CEO on Conspiracy Theories
- Weekly Recap: Casey Neistat, OpenAI Cracks Math, The Future of ChatGPT, Apple x F1, Intel Layoffs
- OpenAI Just Cracked the World’s Toughest Math Challenge — Here's How
- OpenAI’s Windsurf Crash, Grok’s Wild Week, Replace Tim Cook? — With Aaron Levie
- How DeepSeek Changes AI Research & Silicon Valley w/ M.G. Siegler
- Arm CEO Rene Haas on AI: Nvidia Lessons, Intel’s Decline and the US-China Chip War
- 20Growth: Meta CMO Alex Schultz on How All Founders Have to Change Their Marketing Playbook in a World of AI | Is AI Plateauing, What it Means if China Wins the AI Race and Why Zuck is a Generational Leader
- 39 more episodes that year, every mention in 2025 →
2024 31 mentions in 12 episodes 3 per episode
- Is OpenAI’s New “o1” Model The Big Step Forward We’ve Been Waiting For?
- Hurricane fallout, AlphaFold, Google breakup, Trump surge, VC giveback, TikTok survey
- Anthropic's Co-Founder on AI Agents, General Intelligence, and Sentience — With Jack Clark
- Aravind Srinivas:Will Foundation Models Commoditise & Diminishing Returns in Model Performance|E1161 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Matt Clifford: The Bull & Bear Case for China's Ability to Challenge the US' AI Capabilities | E1172 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Guy Podjarny: The Future of AI Software Development - What is Real & What is BS | E1232 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- Elon's Big Week (ep4)
- Arvind Narayanan: AI Scaling Myths, The Core Bottlenecks in AI Today & The Future of Models | E1195 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
- 4 more episodes that year, every mention in 2024 →
2023 1 mention in 1 episode
2022 3 mentions in 1 episode
2017 2 mentions in 1 episode
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| Show | Role there | Eps | Statements | Record | |
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| BIG TECHNOLOGYLEDGER | CEO & Co-Founder, Isomorphic Labs | 3 | 64 | 86% 6/7 | full record on Big Technology → |
| 20VCLEDGER | CEO & Co-Founder, Isomorphic Labs | 1 | 34 | 33% 1/3 | full record on 20VC → |
| Y COMBINATORLEDGER | CEO & Co-Founder, Isomorphic Labs | 1 | 32 | 50% 1/2 | full record on the Y Combinator Startup Podcast → |
| ALL-INLEDGER | CEO & Co-Founder, Isomorphic Labs | 1 | 24 | 100% 7/7 | full record on All-In → |
| TBPNLEDGER | CEO & Co-Founder, Isomorphic Labs | 0 +1 | 1 | — | full record on TBPN → |