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Jordi Hays

Co-founder & Co-host, TBPN. On 3 shows, 213 appearances. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.

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Jordi Hays is the co-creator and co-host of TBPN, a daily tech and business talk show co-hosted with John Coogan. Prior to TBPN, he co-founded the automated startup fundraising platform Capital, which was acquired by Rho in 2023.

3shows
213appearances
1,059statements
403resolved
317supported
39contradicted
79%fully supported
20said about them ↓

Everything Jordi Hays said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.

TBPN Opinion
Hayes: Ramaswamy is unfit for office after taking Jeff Yass donations
“I truly believe that anybody that's taking donations. From a major ByteDance shareholder. And then going out and saying that they will That TikTok should only stay in the control of ByteDance, which we've now determined through this entire last hour is ultimat…”
Jordi Hays Jan 18, 2025 ▶ 1:35:17 The END of TikTok?
TBPN Assertion Supported
Escaped OpenAI model hacked Hugging Face seeking benchmark test answers
“So the models found a zero day vulnerability, gained internet access and broke into hugging face because the model believed It hosted answers to the test.”
Jordi Hays Jul 23, 2026 ▶ 2:40 AI Agents Hack Hugging Face, White House Promotes Science’s Golden Age | Diet TBPN
TBPN Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hays: Ferrari Will Never Be Competitive in EVs
“It's basically proving that Ferrari, I don't think can ever, I don't think they'll ever be competitive in EVs.”
Jordi Hays May 27, 2026 ▶ 10:48 Reactions: Ferrari’s First EV, The Enhanced Games | Diet TBPN
TBPN Assertion Supported
China blocks Meta's $2 billion acquisition of AI platform Manus
“China has blocked Meta's two billion dollar acquisition of artificial intelligence platform Manus after regulators reviewed whether the deal violated Beijing's investment rules.”
Jordi Hays Apr 27, 2026 ▶ 1:26 China Blocks Meta’s $2B Manus Deal, Meta Bets on Space-Based Solar | Diet TBPN
TBPN Opinion
Hays: Data center moratorium would be catastrophic for AI progress
“The act has a long way to go, and it seems like the odds of it getting into law are low, but not zero. It's safe to say that as written, the requirements in the bill would be an incredible gift to America's adversaries and catastrophic for overall AI progress.”
Jordi Hays Mar 27, 2026 ▶ 20:04 Arm’s $15B Chip Bet, Sanders & AOC vs Datacenters, Meta & YouTube Lose Trial | Diet TBPN
TBPN What-if
Hays: Uber would be worth over $1T if Kalanick remained CEO
“His take, which I totally agree with is it's hard to, if Travis had stayed in the role, It's hard to imagine Uber being worth less than something like a trillion dollars today.”
Jordi Hays Mar 25, 2026 ▶ 1:12 Benchmark’s Ship of Theseus, OpenAI Kills Sora, SpaceX $2T IPO Buzz | Diet TBPN
TBPN Opinion
Hays: Elon Musk's lunar mass driver keynote is an IPO pump
“But still, this seems like a, just kind of a blatant sci-fi pump going into the IPO.”
Jordi Hays Mar 23, 2026 ▶ 7:13 SpaceX’s Lunar Mass Driver, OpenAI Hires Meta’s Top Ad Exec, Zuck Builds CEO Agent | Diet TBPN
TBPN Assertion Supported
Hays: Anthropic Officially Designated as a Federal Supply Chain Risk
“This also coincided with Anthropic, I guess, officially being designated as a supply chain risk”
Jordi Hays Mar 6, 2026 ▶ 25:52 Daniel Gross’ AGI predictions, SpaceX IPO news, Trump takes control of US chip exports | Diet TBPN
TBPN Assertion Supported
Block reduces its workforce by 40 percent, cutting 4,000 employees
“Square is cutting from 10,000 to 6000 employees, a 40% reduction.”
Jordi Hays Feb 27, 2026 ▶ 22:44 Nvidia Earnings, Paramount Emerges Victorious, Block Layoffs | Diet TBPN
TBPN Prediction Not checkable as stated
CEOs will slash headcount regardless of actual AI efficiency gains
“So again, it doesn't really matter whether or not a company is actually getting tremendous efficiency from AI. Every CEO is going to do this.”
Jordi Hays Feb 27, 2026 ▶ 26:56 Nvidia Earnings, Paramount Emerges Victorious, Block Layoffs | Diet TBPN
TBPN Assertion Supported
Hays: Anthropic Battles Pentagon Over Surveillance and Lethal AI Uses
“It's also locked in a battle with the Defense Department over how its clawed suite are used after it told the Pentagon it couldn't be used for domestic surveillance or autonomous lethal activities.”
Jordi Hays Feb 26, 2026 ▶ 21:23 Big Tech to Pay for Power, Anthropic Abandons Safety, the Adoption Paradox | Diet TBPN
TBPN Assertion Supported
Hays: Terraform Administrator Accuses Jane Street of Insider Trading
“The court-appointed administrator of Do Kwan's Terraform Labs alleged that Jane Street used non-public information about Terraform insiders to trade the play-by-play.”
Jordi Hays Feb 24, 2026 ▶ 17:03 Kim K's New Energy Drink, Citrini Discourse Rages On, the $100B Meta-AMD Deal | Diet TBPN
TBPN Opinion
Hays: Anthropic's ad campaign plants false impression of ChatGPT ads
“It's brilliant, well-timed, and incredibly strategic for a few reasons I'll outline below, and it's designed to plant a false impression of Chad GPT's forthcoming ad product in the minds of hundreds of millions of Americans.”
Jordi Hays Feb 6, 2026 ▶ 6:21 Anthropic’s Trust Nuke, OpenAI’s new releases, Google Claims AI Crown | Diet TBPN
TBPN Prediction Not checkable as stated
Hays: Claude has lost the race to reach billions of users
“Anthropic has already lost the race to serve billions of people, right? I don't think that they're, when you look at Gemini's sort of traction, OpenAI's, ChatGPT traction, like it seems like the race to get to Three billion monthly actives is kind of over. I d…”
Jordi Hays Feb 5, 2026 ▶ 8:40 Anthropic's secret strategy behind its Super Bowl ad campaign
TBPN Assertion Supported
Hays: Jeffrey Epstein Invested in Coinbase at a $400M Valuation
“Looking back and seeing, seeing even, even after the original conviction, how many companies he was able to get in, he got into Coinbase at 400.”
Jordi Hays Feb 3, 2026 ▶ 19:42 Moltbook goes viral, $100B OpenAI-Nvidia deal stalled, SpaceX merges with xAI | Diet TBPN
TBPN Assertion Supported
Hays: SpaceX and xAI in merger talks ahead of planned IPO
“So, they're in discussions ahead of a blockbuster IPO planned for later this year. The combination would bring Musk's rockets, Starlink satellites, and X social media platform, and the Grok AI chatbot under one roof.”
Jordi Hays Jan 30, 2026 ▶ 21:11 Big Tech Earnings, Elon’s SpaceX–xAI Merge, Genie 3 | Diet TBPN
TBPN Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hayes: David Solomon Was Told to Shut Down Marcus or Resign
“DJ D Sol was told to shut down Marcus and Consumer, or get out of the job. So he cut all of Marcus except for savings.”
Jordi Hays Jan 9, 2026 ▶ 10:47 The Jamie Dimon Apple Card, Greenland Ideas, WB-Paramount, TBPN x Vanity Fair | Diet TBPN
TBPN Opinion
Hays: Steam has won the hardware war, obsoleting Xbox and Apple VR
“Steam has won. There's no reason to get an Xbox. There's no reason to get an Apple VR headset. They all run on Linux. It's the ultimate computer.”
Jordi Hays Nov 15, 2025 ▶ 8:19 Blue Origin Lands Rocket, Valve Drops Steam Machine, Cantor Group Surges | Diet TBPN
TBPN Insight
Hays: OpenAI could swap ChatGPT's model for Claude and retain users
“OpenAI could swap out the underlying model, And still accrue the vast majority of value. So, hypothetically, you could have ChatGPT, chat.com, powered not by GPT-Five, but instead powered by Gemini or Claude, and still see positive user growth, monetization, b…”
Jordi Hays Oct 22, 2025 ▶ 4:19 OpenAI Drops A Web Browser? Our Reactions | Diet TBPN
TBPN Opinion
Hims bends rules because GLP-1 cash outweighs risks, says Hays
“Yes, of course they're bending the rules around compounding and like, but they seem to be okay with that risk appetite because they're printing so much cash off of this that they're like, it's one of those situations where they're like, even if we get, you kno…”
Jordi Hays Feb 12, 2025 ▶ 4:48 REVIEW: HIMS Super Bowl Ad (Controversy)
TBPN Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hays: Chinese E-Commerce Coordinates With TikTok to Manipulate US Consumers
“The Chinese companies coordinate to use TikTok as a channel to influence activity in the U S.”
Jordi Hays Feb 5, 2025 ▶ 14:30 The Truth About Chinese Manufacturing (De Minimis)
TBPN Opinion
Hays: Nvidia valuation is hard to justify as competitive moats crack
“So at the high level, Nvidia faces an unprecedented convergence of competitive threats that make its premium valuation increasingly difficult to justify at 20 x forward sales and 75% gross margins. The company's supposed moats and hardware software and efficie…”
Jordi Hays Jan 28, 2025 ▶ 1:02:05 DeepSeek Update, Market Crash, Timeline in Turmoil, Is VC Cooked, Zero Cope Policy
TBPN Assertion Not checkable as stated
Hays: Chinese labs have insiders at all major American AI labs
“Well, one thing, but I'm sure Chinese labs Have people inside at all the major American labs, and so anything that is being discovered at the American labs is being ported back.”
Jordi Hays Jan 28, 2025 ▶ 1:28:40 DeepSeek Update, Market Crash, Timeline in Turmoil, Is VC Cooked, Zero Cope Policy
TBPN Opinion
Hays: DeepSeek is China's Next Subsidized Tech Trojan Horse Like TikTok
“I'll go out on a limb to say this is China's next attempt at a DJI TikTok type. Product where, hey, let's basically sell this product in America for way less than it costs. Give it away for free. Try to get a bunch of important, you know, companies using it or…”
Jordi Hays Jan 25, 2025 ▶ 0:44 DeepSeek, Stargate Update, Bees Do Enjoy Honey, Golden Retriever Maxxing, Bring on the Trilly

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2026 18 mentions in 13 episodes 1 per episode
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