Valuation Multiples

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Mauboussin: Investors must understand underlying economics before using valuation multiples
“I always tell my students, you have to earn the right to use a multiple. In other words, you can demonstrate that you understand what the economic implications are. That always bothers me that people are very comfortable throwing around heuristics or multiples…”
Michael Mauboussin Feb 19, 2024 ▶ 50:34 Michael Mauboussin - Pattern Recognition and Public Markets (EP.370)
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Levin: Valuation multiples will not expand soon nor snap back
“There's no snapback, you know, even if you say, earnings take time to grow. Earnings don't typically, at large, grow in multiples. They grow in You know, increments, percentages, and when that happens, markets grow and valuations grow, but there's no catalyst …”
Joey Levin Feb 24, 2023 ▶ 15:45 IAC CEO Joey Levin: Why Value Investing is BS; The Most Insane Element of SPACs | 20VC #982 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
NEON SHOW Insight
Goyal: Market downturns correct valuation multiples before earnings
“In every down cycle, initially it's the multiples that correct, and then it's the earnings that correct, while the multiple stays the same.”
Alok Goyal Jan 9, 2023 ▶ 16:28 Top SaaS startups to watch in 2023 with Alok Goyal, Investor in Whatfix, LimeChat, GTM Buddy
STARTUP IDEAS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Karnjanaprakorn: Digital creator businesses command higher valuation multiples than DTC
“You get higher multiples of your valuation.”
Michael Karnjanaprakorn Dec 8, 2022 ▶ 45:22 Money, Wealth, and Personal Holding Companies with Michael Karnjanaprakorn
Pitch M&A multiples on current ARR to founders, closing ARR to boards
“One of the, like, methods and tactics there that I used in terms of negotiation is really, you know, talk about valuation multiples that are higher on the current AR, and then with the board, talk about the multiple at the close of the transaction. So you can …”
James Isilay Oct 8, 2022 ▶ 16:54 How We Acquired our PLG Competitor to Break $30m in Revenue
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Partly supported
Bitar: Venezuelan Valuation Multiples Are One-Third of Global Levels
“It's most likely to go up, then go down, particularly because it's beginning to normalize, and multiples are a third of what you have elsewhere in the world.”
Rodrigo Bitar Aug 29, 2022 ▶ 32:07 Rodrigo Bitar – Empty Rooms: Investing in Venezuela (Capital Allocators, EP.268)
ALL-IN Insight
Gerstner: A 1% rate change drives a 15-20% multiple shift
“The iron law of investing is interest rates. A one percent change in rates leads to a 15 or 20% change in a multiple.”
Brad Gerstner May 23, 2022 ▶ 5:26 E81: All-In Summit: Bill Gurley & Brad Gerstner on markets, downturns & investment cycles
Latka: High net retention drives Series A multiples more than growth
“The folks that are getting the highest multiples on their series A rounds are not the ones going revenue the fastest. It's the ones that have the highest net dollar retention, you know, one, 21, 30%.”
Nathan Latka Nov 17, 2021 ▶ 23:18 Tribe Hits $2.4m ARR, 300% Yoy Growth, $42m Valuation Helping Businesses Manage Their Communities
Zorub: Valuation multiples flow from DCFs and should not drive valuations
“Most people don't know how to properly use valuation multiples, and the idea that multiples flow from proper valuation and DCF technique and are not a driver of it, And therefore what happens is people make a lot of mistakes. They do maybe good quantitative or…”
David Zorub Apr 22, 2019 ▶ 40:01 David Zorub - The Path to a Hedge Fund Launch (Capital Allocators, EP.96)
Wille: Founders should avoid excessive valuation multiples they cannot grow into
“So a bigger valuation multiple is not always what you want. I'm always a big, big fan of it's gotta be fair for both parties. And that includes the terms as well as the valuation multiple, you know, but you have to be able to grow into that and, you know, the …”
Allan Wille Jul 4, 2017 ▶ 11:49 710: How This SaaS Company is Using $20 Million to Scale

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