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Lopes Lara: Kalshi plans to add futures, swaps, and options
“Right now we only have the binary yes, no. We want to have things like futures, like swaps, options, all of that.”
Yan: Retail options traders get fleeced due to complex pricing dynamics
“It's actually really hard to price an option, especially if you're retail and especially if you're using like an app that doesn't give you the information that you need. And so you're kind of getting fleeced because there was like very complicated structures.”
Just: PEAK6 trades options on 3,000 to 4,000 public companies daily
“We're active in three to 4000 public company names in their option, in their options. Every single day. So we have a very, a broad, really broad portfolio.”
Tenev: Robinhood options market share grew nearly 20% last year
“Options was up 20%, close to 20% last year. Equities up 14%.”
Chesseri: Only exercised shares can be moved into irrevocable trusts
“You can't move options into an air vocal trust. You have to move exercise shares into an air vocal trust.”
Kamath: I went completely bust multiple times trading options early on
“So when you're a trader and you're starting off, like you start with a small amount of money, you trade like mad, right? Like you buy way out of the money options if you don't have enough capital to do trading another way. I'm talking like, 1920 years ago now.…”
Chili Piper repriced employee stock options after new 409A valuation
“Yeah, so we repriced the options, so we I went to the board, I said, look I believe the whole idea of stock options is to be motivated which that, so we had another four, nine, eight, it's called to tell us the current correct price, and we repriced all our op…”
Jenny Just: PEAK6 options holdings in August 2023 ranked top five historically
“This is why, at this point, and in the month of August, we've owned more options in our portfolio than, it's probably top five in our history.”
Blitz: Repeatable Macro Alpha Comes From Trade Structuring, Not Thematic Bets
“So the thing that we think is repeatable is having an edge in trade structuring and implementation. So basically instead of saying, I'm going to put all my eggs in the Euro basket or put all my eggs in the basket of the tenures going up, sort of view things th…”
Stock Option Grants Are Meaningless Without Knowing Total Outstanding Shares
“People get so fixated on the amount of options that they're getting, but options don't actually mean anything. If you don't know how many options are outstanding Or what the actual value is of those options.”
Chamath: Startup options are effectively worthless if valuations reset
“Otherwise, what will happen is if you join a company in this moment, at a fake valuation, and the valuation gets reset, you can effectively assume your options are worth zero.”
Rosenthal: Entry price does not matter in early-stage venture capital
“If you're just buying options at early stage venture, then price doesn't matter. Then you want to have as many shots on goal as possible. You want extreme volatility and long tails, right? All the stuff that you don't want when you're buying a series of cash f…”
Selvala: Options act like insurance where buyers systematically overpay
“Options provide a risk transference mechanism, like insurance. And buyers of insurance, over time, typically overbuy, but they sleep well at night. And sellers of insurance make a lot of money, but they better know how to manage their risk.”