Open Weights
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Enterprises will split work between cheap open-weight and expensive frontier models
“I think what we're going to see is a split between job functions that demand kind of mid IQ intelligence, and those will often be open weight, sort of biased with reinforcement learning, you know, things that make the models even cheaper, more performant for a…”
O'Driscoll: Open-weight will drive token volume while frontier models capture revenue
“Yes, I think that the vast predominance of tokens process will be open weight, and obviously, as people reiterating, the vast majority of revenue, the significant majority of revenue will still be frontier state-of-the-art because it can command more value tha…”
Moe: Open-weight inference can hit 500 tokens/sec, 2-3x faster than proprietary APIs
“But for open weight, when you are running it, every provider can offer potentially even 10 different levels of speed going from like the slowest mode, which can be a lot cheaper to 400 tokens per second almost up to 500 in many cases for some workloads. And th…”
Lemkin: AI agent unpredictability will strengthen US bans on foreign open weights
“I think these models are very risky. I use them every day. I love it. And I think it's an argument to keep the open weight out of the US. It's gonna favor the ban because we can't, we have no idea what these models are gonna do.”
O'Driscoll: Open-weights models do not have open-source software's security benefits
“The reality is when you're getting open weights, you're not getting, it's not the same thing because all you get is the fixed weights that allow you to run the model. What you don't know is the black box inside those weights and how they work.”
Kant: Poolside is releasing open weights to prevent five-company AI concentration
“I think it all just came down to one thing and I'll stop the monologue is the fact that I rather live in a world that has a hundred foundation model companies than a world that has five. Even if I was one of the five. And the smallest and most meaningful contr…”
Bavor: Enterprises will mix open-weights and frontier models based on tasks
“And I think you'll end up with companies using both mixing and matching them depending on the task at hand.”
Casado: Open-weight AI does not empower competitors like open-source software
“Open weights is not the ability to produce the weights. But open software is the ability to produce the software. Like if you give me open software, I can compile it, I can modify it, whatever, but giving open weights, you don't have it. You don't have the dat…”
Andreessen: Most Open-Weights AI Models, Including DeepSeek, Omit Training Data
“What most of the open source open weights models don't have, including, you know, deep seek specifically, What they don't have is they don't have open data, right? Or open corpus, right? So you can't actually see the training data that went, went into them.”
Amodei: Open-source AI lacks traditional software's inspectability and additive collaboration
“I don't think open source works the same way in, in AI that it has worked in other areas. Primarily because with open source, you can see the, you know, you can see the source code of the model. Here, we can't see inside the model. You know, it's often called …”