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Amodei: Open-source AI lacks traditional software's inspectability and additive collaboration

Dario Amodei · Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei: AI's Potential, OpenAI Rivalry, GenAI Business, Doomerism · Jul 30, 2025 · at 38:40

Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei discusses whether open-source and open-weight AI models represent a competitive threat to proprietary model developers.

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“I don't think open source works the same way in, in AI that it has worked in other areas. Primarily because with open source, you can see the, you know, you can see the source code of the model. Here, we can't see inside the model. You know, it's often called open weights instead of open source to kind of distinguish that. But a lot of the benefits, which is that many people can work on it, that it's kind of additive, it doesn't quite work in the same way.”

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