Fair Use
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Friedberg: Converting copyrighted data into AI knowledge will be upheld as fair use
“I do think fundamentally that the conversion of that data into what I would call knowledge and ultimately the ability to create new outcomes from that knowledge that are not copyrighted, that are not copies of the original material, I do think is going to end …”
Rogers: Courts are ruling that AI training constitutes fair use
“So we've seen a lot of good rulings from courts that training AI is fair use.”
Altman: Society will deem AI training fair use but create IP licensing models
“So like, you'll see this continue to move, but forced guests from the position we're in today, I would say that society decides training is fair use, but There's a new model for generating content in the style of or with the IPF or something else.”
Prince: California courts issued contradictory rulings on AI training fair use
“We literally had two different California cases that came out on both sides of that issue. Is, Training on content fair use or not.”
Calacanis: AI image customisation mockups qualify as editorial fair use
“This is fair use. This is fair use. This is a perfect example of fair use for editorial.”
Sacks: US will lose AI race to China without fair use
“And if we don't allow our AI models to again, have a sensible fair use definition that allows them to train, but not violate an output, then we will lose to Chinese AI models.”
Garry Tan: Training AI on published data ultimately feels like fair use
“The funniest thing, my main response to all of that around, like, provenance of the data itself is, at some point, like, it feels like it actually is fair use, though.”
Calacanis: Judge found Ross liable, ruling fair use does not apply
“This week, the judge reversed this ruling and found Ross liable, noting that after further review, fair use does not apply in this case.”
Morin: Scraping internet content for AI under fair use is egregious
“Going out and saying that you're going to steal the entire internet, steal all the content and then generate new content and claim fair use just seems, it seems beyond the pale to me and a little bit egregious.”
Lessin: AI fair use lawsuits will take a decade to resolve
“There are court cases that will take a decade, unfortunately, and they're saying it's fair use, which is a part of copyright law when you're taking copyright content and then just paraphrasing or taking out a sentence or two.”
Srinivas: Citing web sources in AI search constitutes legal fair use
“And it's actually fair use. The fact that you're attributing credit is fair use.”
Delangue: AI Industry Will Gain Fair Use Regulatory Clarity in 2023
“And it's gonna be good this year, I think, because we're going to start to have more legal clarity about, you know, how do we consider fair use what are the regulators expecting from AI companies to respect in terms of rules.”
Evans: Existing copyright frameworks fail to map onto generative AI
“You can't just say, well, this is what copyright law says. And this is a derivative work, and that's fair use. That's not really what's, that doesn't map very well to what's happening here. It's kind of like taking live performance rights from the early 19th c…”
Calacanis asserts AI web scraping for derivative answers violates fair use
“It's not fair use because in fair use, you have the ability to create derivative works on future platforms. And you are taking this person, the original content owner's ability to exploit that And you are co-opting it and you're doing it at scale. And that is …”
Doctorow: Copyright should combine European statutory exceptions with US fair use principles
“I think we could combine the European fair dealing approach where they have enumerated exceptions with the American fair use approach where they have principles that are applied to get a kind of best of both worlds where we might say, okay, here are a bunch of…”