Cloudflare allocated 5% IPO directed shares to strategic allies with 75% uptake
“And we made this crazy list of all of these, you know, people who, you know, who were like, you know, at some point that might be an important relationship for us. And like, 75% of them said yes. And they all made, you know, a ton of money as a result of it.”
Lemkin: Ryan Smith's Utah Jazz investment quadrupled, outpacing software returns
“When Ryan Smith sold Qualtrics, I think he made about a billion dollars. After 20 years or so and I believe that billion, most of it went back into the jazz, and it has quadrupled... He's up three billion on the jazz or something like that versus the 20 years …”
Ryan Smith earned $1,000 monthly teaching English in South Korea at 17
“And then I started getting a schedule and like literally like a month later, I was making like a thousand dollars a month is a 17 year old teaching English.”
Sequoia demanded Qualtrics formally name a single CEO to secure its investment
“When we took money in 2011, Sequoia, I remember, was like, We're only doing this if there's a CEO. Which one of you is the CEO?”
A Qualtrics competitor raised $40M with a cheaper, better product in 2004
“Our competition had just raised a bunch of money. The product was cheaper than ours. They raised forty million dollars, and their product was better than ours.”
Ryan Smith requires sales reps to be able to demo products blind
“This is where I've always told our reps, like, do you know your product? I could do the demo on the phone in a car with a link walking them through. Without me looking at the screen. And explain to them every single thing that's going on.”
Dave Goldberg's SurveyMonkey attempted to acquire Qualtrics before its Series A
“You know, the gentleman who was doing it ran a company, I'll just be honest, it was called Survey Monkey at the time.”
Ryan Smith calls selling Qualtrics one of his most underwhelming days
“And when Qualtrics sold, it was probably one of the most underwhelming days of my life.”
Ryan Smith avoided investing, boards, and real estate for 20 years
“I didn't do anything else when I was doing Qualtrics. I didn't invest. I didn't sit on boards. I didn't buy real estate. I was literally like Qualtrics for 20 years heads down.”
Ryan Smith based his Utah Jazz offer on a Forbes mobile valuation
“It was literally a meeting where it was like, well, are you serious? Make us an offer. And we pulled up the Forbes valuation on the phone and I said, well, how's this?”
Ryan Smith avoids work calls during his children's daily transition routines
“Not all three, maybe, but like, if I can schedule a call, I'm not doing it in one of those moments.”
Lemkin: SaaS founders led Front's $600M valuation round
“The last round in front, which I think was at six or seven hundred million, was all founders. Okay, it was Ryan Smith from Qualtrics, I forget who else, the other billion, our friends, the billionaires of SaaS, but they all, I think, led that round instead of …”
Smith: Qualtrics never had a singular 'aha moment' or tipping point
“With Qualtrics, I don't think there's ever really been an aha moment. There hasn't been this tipping point where it like all worked. It's been what I would call probably more push than pull the whole way.”
Smith: Early basement days of Qualtrics were his worst business experience
“Because the basement sucked. It was like the worst time I've ever had, like, running a business”
Ryan Smith commits to running the Utah Jazz for 35 years
“I'm doing this for 35 years. The last person who ran the team had it for 35 years. I'm doing this for 35 years, and really, that's my thought. Like, we're doing it for that long.”
Ryan Smith had two hours to decide on SAP's $8B offer
“I had two hours to decide whether we're selling to SAP for eight billion dollars cash.”
Qualtrics turned down a $500M cash acquisition offer in 2011
“In 2011, someone offered us five hundred million dollars cash to sell our business. And we were at this point where we turned it down.”
Qualtrics raised venture capital to de-risk after rejecting a buyout
“We actually raised venture capital because we turned down an offer, and we wanted to be able to live with ourselves.”
Ryan Smith: Receiving SAP's $8B cash payout was underwhelming
“The day that the wires hit, I remember sitting, we were at a president's club, so we were at a sales retreat with all of our people, and you could kind of look around, and you could see everyone's phones, right? Like, people were, like, with their spouses, lik…”
Ryan Smith: Stack family and work commitments into single time blocks
“You'll always see me doubling up everything I do. Like, if I have a meeting that I need to go do, I'll just bring them with me to the next meeting. If I've got to go to a game, I've always got people with me that I was supposed to meet with, and we just do it …”
Cummings: Qualtrics scaled to $500M ARR without primary balance sheet capital
“Ryan Smith from Qualtrics, and he told the amazing story of going from zero to five hundred million of revenue
And not requiring any primary capital. Five hundred million in recurring revenue, and they never raised any money that went to the balance sheet.”
Smith: Qualtrics rejected a $500M buyout offer at a $50M run rate
“The backstory here is we turned down an acquisition offer for five hundred million dollars in 2012. And I had done, I mean, we were about a fifty million dollar sales run rate, but I'd never done a media interview.”
Smith: Targeting academia seeded Qualtrics across the enterprise workforce
“It was the most brilliant thing that we did, and everywhere I go, and we were on the road show and everything, it was, wow, that was the most brilliant model I've ever seen because, you know, millions of academics used Qualtrics and then took it with them into…”
Ryan Smith: Qualtrics' valuation grew $100M each year they delayed funding
“From 2009, 10 and 11, Every year we waited, our valuation went up a hundred million dollars back then.”
Ryan Smith: Qualtrics was fully committed to an IPO, not dual-tracking
“I was not running a dual track. I invited 300 of my closest friends to take mortgages on their house to go buy into the friends and family, and then I was like, oh, J slash K, it was like a pump fake, and everyone went flying by, and then we laid it.”
Smith: Acquirers will not move without a compelling event like an IPO
“If you're not building a company that can stand up and go public, Then you're probably going to be, no one's going to want it anyways. And you, there's going to be an outlier or two where you're going to point to and say that, but no one ever really, I mean, S…”
Ryan Smith: Won't invest in Series A where founder owns under 20%
“I wouldn't even invest in a company if a founder didn't own, if we're raising a series A, if they didn't own 20% or more.”
Smith: Rising market caps will push mega-SaaS acquisition sizes to $15B
“Well 15, it's got to be the new, it's got to be the new number. I mean as market caps keep increasing, then I think the number goes up.”
Latka: Early-stage interviews get 3x more downloads than pre-IPO founders
“The interviews I do with people that are at your level get almost three times the downloads as when I have Ryan on from Qualtrics and they're about to IPO.”
Latka: The most successful SaaS companies originated out of agencies
“And the most successful SAS companies I've ever seen all came out of agencies. Qualtrics with Ryan Smith Ryan Holmes at Hootsuite. I mean, the most successful SaaS company started as agencies.”
Smith: Qualtrics has 9,000 brand customers paying up to $6M annually
“Yeah, paying customers, and these are brands. These are, I mean, we have a lot more customers in the brands, but they, you know, if you look at 9000, then you look at, you know, they're paying anywhere from 12,000 all the way up to,
You know, five, six millio…”
Smith: Qualtrics has already surpassed $250M in ARR
“I think we already have.
Good.
I asked that question very specifically.
What I found is if I underestimate a little, a founder feels much more comfortable going, we just broke that versus.
We're good.
That's in the rear of your view mirror.”
Smith: Qualtrics is and has always been cash-flow positive
“Makeup that we have at Qualtrics where we're cashflow positive.
We've always been, it was really nice to be able to say, Hey here's an opportunity to have some liquidity and, you know, kind of get acclimated a little bit to what life is going to be like for a…”
Smith: Qualtrics left $100M valuation on table during Series A
“I mean, in our series A, we raised, you know, seventy million dollars.
We took, we left a hundred million extra valuation on the table from a credible party because we care about, you know, who we're going to battle with, and I think that's what we've always …”
Smith: Qualtrics maintained 100% growth and profitability from 2006 to 2009
“We operated it with a hundred percent growth and being profitable through 2006, seven, eight, nine.”
Accel sourced Qualtrics early by building relationships in Salt Lake City
“Qualtrics, is a good example of that. Hiding in Salt Lake, you didn't think that there was going to be a multi-billion dollar company in the area of market research surveys, but we were lucky enough to find that company relatively early on and spend the time b…”
Smith: Qualtrics is being built to last 40 to 50 years
“We're trying to build something that's going to be around for the next 40 years, 50 years, and if you're building that way, it's actually a totally different playbook than if you're building something that it's got to work for you.”
Qualtrics reached nearly $50M revenue with 50% profit margins while bootstrapped
“We were close to coming up on fifty million dollars in, in sales and, you know, 50% profit margins, a hundred percent bootstrap.”
Qualtrics scaled from 600 to 1,200 employees in one year
“The idea of transparency is that everyone's basically an insider and we've gone from 600 employees to 1200 employees in one year. We've gone from one office to eight offices”
Smith: Companies fail from internal politics or scattered external focus
“Companies fail for two reasons. They either get internally focused on each other, Or they get externally focused in a million different directions and can't execute.”
Smith: A startup CEO's job changes every three months
“My job as CEO changes every three months. And so does the way I go about the job. What used to work for me two or three years ago does not work for me now.”
Smith: Workplace conflicts must be discussed with all parties in the room
“One of the things that I believe in is, is, is complete escalation where if someone's talking to me about someone else, we're doing it in the room together.”
Ryan Smith: Most people have only three or four productive hours daily
“Most people only have three or four productive hours in the day where they're actually getting stuff done.”
Ryan Smith: Qualtrics hit $50M revenue and $30M cash flow before raising capital
“I mean, we had fifty million dollars in revenue kicking off thirty million dollars in cash, which is very counterintuitive to what we see today. Very profitable before we took any outside funding.”
Ryan Smith: Enterprise software startups must win academics to drive adoption
“First of all, if you don't own the academic market or you're not indoctrinating academics with the product, it's going to be very difficult because they're leading.”
Ryan Smith calls immediate pop-up website surveys the worst user experience
“I can't stand when you go visit a website and something pops up. Hey, how was your experience? It's like, leave me alone. I just got here. This is the worst user experience of all time. Right? And everyone's like, well, no, this is statistically significant. I…”