Interchange

topic on 9 shows · 11 statements across 8 episodes · said 3 times in 3 episodes since 2021

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MY FIRST MILLION Assertion Partly supported
Stripe and Square net just 0.1% to 0.5% per card transaction.
“At the very end of the day, they might keep, you know, it varies anywhere from like .1 to .5% is ultimately their net take, but the gross is much higher because they're collecting.”
Eric Glyman Aug 20, 2025 ▶ 5:17 I built a billion dollar company in 18 months
Glyman: Card issuers keep most interchange because they absorb credit default risk
“And so the issuer in interchange is traditionally keeping most of that interchange. And the reasons actually makes sense when you think about it, you know, especially in credit, they're taking on the risk. They're saying that merchant, we will pay you know, ev…”
Eric Glyman Aug 20, 2025 ▶ 6:12 I built a billion dollar company in 18 months
SOURCERY Assertion Not checkable as stated
Majority of Brex revenue comes from interchange fees despite multiple products
“And so when you think about Brex and what we're doing, the majority of our revenue is through interchange, even though we have a number of other product lines.”
Art Levy Jul 10, 2025 ▶ 11:09 Brex’s Road to IPO and The Golden Age of M&A · Sourcery with Molly O'Shea
Brauer: Subscription pricing keeps youth fintech from nudging unnecessary card spending
“Subscription- Would allow us to do right by customers, meaning that if we're, if the parent is paying us a fee, we could continue to invest in the product, but that we never have to nudge and drive a child to spend more than they should to get more interchange…”
Dean Brauer Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 31:29 He grew to 2M customers & exited—in one of the biggest fintech exits ever. · PMF Show
a16z Opinion
Khalaf: Merchants complaining about card interchange fees ignore massive ad tech costs
“So regarding the payment rails, I agree with Zach. It's a yes, but the but is bigger than the yes, because if you look at, ah, all the folks that are honestly complaining about the interchange. Okay, let's talk about it. These are the same people who are payin…”
Simon Khalaf Jun 20, 2024 ▶ 16:53 Zach Perret (Plaid) & Simon Khalaf (Marqeta): New Applications in Fintech
ACQUIRED Assertion Supported
Industry average interchange rates have fallen to roughly 2.24%
“There's been downward pressure on interchange for a long time. I think industry average right now is down around 2.24, which is, you know, compelling considering we started at seven percent.”
Ben Gilbert Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 2:57:32 Visa (Audio) · Acquired
ACQUIRED Insight
Card issuers make most revenue from interest rather than interchange fees
“The money that card issuers make Only a minority of it is actually from the interchange. And keep in mind, the card issuers are the ones that make that 1.6%, the bulk of the transaction. Most of the money that card issuers make is from interest payments.”
Ben Gilbert Nov 27, 2023 ▶ 2:59:06 Visa (Audio) · Acquired
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Supported
Bean: The vast majority of Divvy's revenue comes from interchange fees
“Almost, almost all I would say majority of that is on interchange.”
Alex Bean May 17, 2021 ▶ 10:30 Divvy Founder Sees Clear Path to $100m, 20k Customers, Most Revenue from CC fees, $1b+ in GMV
ALL-IN Prediction Not checkable as stated
Chamath: Fintech companies will eventually drive interchange costs to zero
“Well, I think more people do just because the technology companies that have come around, like, you know, stripe and others will eventually just try to take it to zero.”
Chamath Palihapitiya Feb 13, 2021 ▶ 38:25 E22: Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev breaks down the GameStop situation
a16z Assertion Contradicted
Rampell: Eliminating credit card interchange fees would double Target's profit
“Target, big retailer in the US, has about a 1.5% net margin, so net income over revenue. If interchange went away, they would double their profit.”
Alex Rampell Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 12:33 a16z Podcast | The Future of Money and Monetization
a16z Assertion Partly supported
Rampell: Capping Australian interchange fees eliminated rewards cards and increased fees
“Like, so, Australia has interchange at 49 and a half basis points by law, and now, I mean, and this is not me supporting Visa. It's more of, It's very peculiar that you have an industry where when prices go down, consumers can be worse off. In Australia, now t…”
Alex Rampell Jan 2, 2019 ▶ 14:56 a16z Podcast | The Future of Money and Monetization

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