limited partner

also referred to as: limited partners · lp

45 statements across 32 episodes · 8 bullish · 12 bearish · 21 people on the record · first statement Nov 16, 2016 by Paul Martino · across every show →

Everything said about limited partner, oldest first

Nov 16, 2016
Insight
Venture fund mechanics leave very little room for structural innovation
“It's a fair question, and I wish I had a better answer, but once you get into the mechanics of how a venture fund works in terms of the way limited partners give you money, the way that you deal with taxes, etc., it is very difficult to innovate at all on the …”
Paul Martino Nov 16, 2016 ▶ 21:48 20VC: Investing In Sectors That Were Cool 2 Years Ago, What Accel's Facebook Fund Taught a Generation of LPs & Why LPs Need A New Discovery Process with Paul Martino, Founding Partner @ Bullpen Capital
Mar 20, 2017
Assertion Partly supported
Average LP adds only one new manager every 2-3 years
“The average LP will add one new manager every two to three years.”
Jason Lemkin Mar 20, 2017 ▶ 13:34 20VC: SaaStr's Jason Lemkin on The 3 Things You Want From Your LPs, Why Most VCs Do Not Add Value & Why The Best VCs Know How To Package Startups For The Next Round
Oct 15, 2018
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Phin Barnes: Over 70% of First Round Capital LPs Are Non-Profits
“At first round, over 70% of our limited partners are non-profit”
Phin Barnes Oct 15, 2018 ▶ 33:33 20VC: First Round's Phin Barnes on How The Best Founders Optimize for Learning Per Dollar Spent, What Makes A Truly Special Founder/VC Relationship and Why Pattern Recognition is Another Term For Intellectual Laziness
Jan 21, 2019
Insight
Somerville: LPs target 3x net returns, which becomes mathematically harder at scale
“Because at the end of the day, an LP that's deciding whether to invest in venture wants outsized multiple performance, I think generally above a three X net, and the math is just harder in order to get there, particularly as fund size increases.”
Hunter Somerville Jan 21, 2019 ▶ 16:10 20VC: The Framework LPs Use To Assess Emerging Managers, What Concerns and Excites LPs in Potential Opportunities & The Current State of Seed Today with Hunter Somerville, Partner @ Greenspring Associates
Sep 16, 2019
Insight
Shah: LPs must be friendly and value-additive to remain competitive
“If I'm an LP, and I want to be competitive over the next 10 to 20 years, I better be extra nice, have fun with my GPs, and be available to answer questions around fund management, connecting them to new people, giving hard feedback when it's needed, but being …”
Semil Shah Sep 16, 2019 ▶ 35:19 20VC: Haystack's Semil Shah on Whether Founders Are Bypassing Seed Funds in Favour Of Less Dilutive Multi-Stage Funds, How Fund Strategy Changes With Fund Scaling & Why The Hardest Challenge is Price Discipline
Dec 9, 2019 neutral
Assertion Contradicted
Vrionis: 2008 Kauffman report told LPs to only invest in top-decile VCs
“In 2008, the Kauffman report came out, and it basically said to LPs, you should only be in the top decile of VC managers. It's a fantastic asset class, but only if you're in the elite.”
John Vrionis Dec 9, 2019 ▶ 15:48 20VC: Unusual Ventures' John Vrionis on Why We Need To Raise The Bar In Venture, Why Taking Multi-Stage Money At Seed Is Not In The Best Interest of Founders & Why To Be The Best, You Have To Specialise To Be The Best
Jun 26, 2020
Insight
Toney: Fund managers should accept LP capital immediately when offered
“If a GP has the ability to close with an LP, if an LP wants to give a GP money, take the money. That's always been my philosophy and approach.”
Lo Toney Jun 26, 2020 ▶ 13:47 20VC: How Fundraising For Funds Has Changed in The World of COVID, The Benefits of Managers Selling Part of Their GP & How To Think Through Your "Minimum Viable Fund Size" with Lo Toney, Founding Managing Partner @ Plexo Capital
Jun 26, 2020 positive
Insight
Toney: LP GP commit requirements should scale with manager net worth
“I think a better way to think about it is, how much is the commit relative to what the nest egg is for the GP? How much is the GP going to actually feel this one, two, three percent?”
Lo Toney Jun 26, 2020 ▶ 23:59 20VC: How Fundraising For Funds Has Changed in The World of COVID, The Benefits of Managers Selling Part of Their GP & How To Think Through Your "Minimum Viable Fund Size" with Lo Toney, Founding Managing Partner @ Plexo Capital
Oct 12, 2020 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
VC and LP incentives diverged in the 1990s due to management fees
“And a lot of this thinking started when the fund sizes started to become large and people started living off of the management fees. So the incentives started to diverge from the limited partners incentives, and people started thinking of it as an investing bu…”
George Zachary Oct 12, 2020 ▶ 13:00 20VC: CRV's George Zachary on His Relationship To Money and How it has Changed Over Time, Why The Best Founders Have Often Experienced Parental or Home Instability and The Stories Behind Investing in Unicorns; PillPack, Yammer and Udacity
Jun 29, 2022
Assertion Partly supported
Gurley: VC LP Gains Peak Right Before Major Market Resets
“If you were a LP that had been exposed to venture capital for the past 30 years, it'd be interesting, you would notice that some of your biggest gains were the years right prior to the resets, in like, oh, one and oh, nine.”
Bill Gurley Jun 29, 2022 ▶ 4:02 20VC: The Memo: Bill Gurley, Doug Leone, Keith Rabois; Investing Lessons from Prior Busts, How Their Investor Psychology Changed, What Can Be Applied To Today's Market
Aug 30, 2022 negative
Opinion
VCs maintaining unadjusted peak valuations are delusional and lose LP trust
“It is some level of delusion. If you actually believe That all of these companies are worth what they were worth six months ago, then and you're saying that with a straight face to your limited partners, and I think you're losing trust, right? A hundred percen…”
Logan Bartlett Aug 30, 2022 ▶ 26:05 Logan Bartlett: WTF is Happening at Growth Stage Investing? | 20VC #920 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 21, 2022
Insight
Shah: Emerging managers must build an AngelList track record before pitching LPs
“I think one is like on AngelList now, there's really no excuse not to have some kind of track record before you go talk to an institutional LP.”
Semil Shah Nov 21, 2022 ▶ 28:09 Semil Shah: Lessons Learned Scaling from a $1M to a $50M Fund | 20VC #951 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 21, 2022
Insight
Shah: LPs expect one spectacular fund and one failure across five funds
“I remember an LP telling me a long, long time ago, like just when I was starting that typically they'll stay with good managers for five funds and they assume that three of them will be so, so maybe two to three X funds. One of them will be a complete turd and…”
Semil Shah Nov 21, 2022 ▶ 24:41 Semil Shah: Lessons Learned Scaling from a $1M to a $50M Fund | 20VC #951 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 21, 2022
Disclosure
Stebbings: Meeting an LP for the first time during a raise guarantees failure
“I meet two new LPs every single week, even when I'm not raising, because I think if you ever meet them when you're raising for the first time, you've got no chance.”
Harry Stebbings Nov 21, 2022 ▶ 30:49 Semil Shah: Lessons Learned Scaling from a $1M to a $50M Fund | 20VC #951 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 21, 2022
Insight
Shah: Institutional LPs are predisposed to pass on debut funds
“If you go meet an institutional LP, they're predisposed to passing on your first fund, primarily out of the fact of like, they probably don't think you're going to raise your first fund or deploy it well, if you do.”
Semil Shah Nov 21, 2022 ▶ 30:07 Semil Shah: Lessons Learned Scaling from a $1M to a $50M Fund | 20VC #951 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 21, 2022
Insight
Shah: Raising institutional capital requires organic industry chatter and name-checking
“I think that like, if you're not getting name checked by institutional LPs and other people aren't talking about what you're doing, it's almost impossible to raise institutional capital, whether it's a three million dollar check or thirty million dollar check …”
Semil Shah Nov 21, 2022 ▶ 34:37 Semil Shah: Lessons Learned Scaling from a $1M to a $50M Fund | 20VC #951 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 30, 2022 bearish
Prediction Didn’t hold up
Lemkin: LP appetite for emerging VC managers could evaporate within 12 months
“I wouldn't be shocked if that evaporates in the next 12 months. If the appetite for the new, the next one just is, is gone. If it's just evaporates at the LP level”
Jason Lemkin Nov 30, 2022 ▶ 57:51 Jason Lemkin: Cold Email Tips; Why Only 15% of Founders Listen to their VCs | 20VC #954 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jan 13, 2023 negative
Insight
Lemkin: Early-stage VCs waste time adjusting markups on growing startups
“If you're not growing, I think it makes sense to mark it down. If it's growing at a decent rate, I think if you're not Fidelity or a late stage investor, I think it's a waste of your time to mark up or mark down because I asked all my LPs this question. They s…”
Jason Lemkin Jan 13, 2023 ▶ 28:17 Jason Lemkin: WTF is Going On in VC? Are LPs Investing in New Funds? | 20VC #965 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 25, 2023 negative
Assertion Partly supported
Secondary VC fund positions are commonly selling at 40-50% discounts
“So one LP will purchase another LP's position and the range of discount that we're seeing actually is anywhere from. But what's more common Is actually 40% or 50% from last round mark. And so you're talking about a pretty significant discount to last round val…”
Avlok Kohli Apr 25, 2023 ▶ 24:51 AngelList CEO Avlok Kohli: The Funding Market Today; Last-Mile Delivery; Competing w/ Carta | E1005 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
May 9, 2023 bearish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kohli: LP Appetite to Sell Venture Fund Positions Has Increased Significantly
“When it comes to LPs within funds, we've definitely seen an increase in appetite to sell positions. And also sometimes sell positions and name brand, you know, name brand companies that are actually just great companies.”
Avlok Kohli May 9, 2023 ▶ 16:42 How Dire is the Startup Funding Market Today? | AngelList CEO Avlok Kohli · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 23, 2023
Insight
Rob Go's Fundraising Rule: Follow Up Twice, Then Stop Proactive Outreach
“I have a basic belief that it never hurts to ask twice, but I never ask three times, right? So if there's an email that doesn't get responded to, I don't feel bad about asking again. After two, after I'm ignored twice, that's okay. I just move on.”
Rob Go Jun 23, 2023 ▶ 36:38 Rob Go: The Ultimate Guide to Raising a Venture Fund | E1029 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 23, 2023
Insight
Rob Go: Timing Is the Single Biggest Factor in LP Commitments
“The number one factor in, in whether an LP says yes or no is just timing, right?”
Rob Go Jun 23, 2023 ▶ 29:51 Rob Go: The Ultimate Guide to Raising a Venture Fund | E1029 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 23, 2023
Disclosure
NextView Intentionally Uses Incomplete Data Rooms to Test LP Engagement
“We have since changed that where we do have a data room, but the data room is a preliminary data room and it is intentionally incomplete. And the reason it's intentionally incomplete is I want to see an LP. If we offer the data room, I want to know they looked…”
Rob Go Jun 23, 2023 ▶ 35:39 Rob Go: The Ultimate Guide to Raising a Venture Fund | E1029 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 23, 2023
Disclosure
Harry Stebbings Meets Two New LPs Weekly to Generate Four Intros
“So I meet two new LPs every single week when I'm not fundraising. At the end of each meeting, I asked for two new LP intros. They make them, so I have a flywheel of four new LPs per week.”
Harry Stebbings Jun 23, 2023 ▶ 39:27 Rob Go: The Ultimate Guide to Raising a Venture Fund | E1029 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 23, 2023
Insight
Lemkin: LP investing feedback loops are much slower than venture investing
“It's an easy job and that it's very, very slow, but it's very hard to get good at it, right? It's very, it's another order of magnitude slower feedback loop than venture, which is pretty slow.”
Jason Lemkin Aug 23, 2023 ▶ 39:17 Jason Lemkin & Rick Zullo: How "Mark to Market" Corrupted Venture Capital | E1052 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 23, 2023
Insight
Lemkin: Non-mega funds rely on a few anchor LPs; others are transactional
“Most funds, I mean, when you're big, it's different, but most funds that aren't huge have a few core anchors, right? They really do. And typically those relationships are trust driven, right? They are trust driven. That's why they're anchors. The rest, it is t…”
Jason Lemkin Aug 23, 2023 ▶ 38:04 Jason Lemkin & Rick Zullo: How "Mark to Market" Corrupted Venture Capital | E1052 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Sep 6, 2023 negative
Opinion
Basu Trivedi: Most LPs fail to rigorously assess GP drive and commitment
“I don't think that they spend enough cycles on it. But I actually think some of the great ones do.”
Nikhil Basu Trivedi Sep 6, 2023 ▶ 45:15 Nikhil Basu Trivedi: Why 99% of AI Investments Will Go Bust | E1057 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 18, 2023 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Clarkson: LPs face liquidity strains from pulling forward future budgets
“A lot of LPs also pre-spent future budgets, if that makes any sense. If you were raising a fund every 18 months, and I thought you were raising every three years, I had two choices. Either I pull from future year budgets, or I reduce my check so that I stay co…”
Beezer Clarkson Oct 18, 2023 ▶ 7:49 Beezer Clarkson: Are LPs Open for Business & Why Do LP Incentive Mechanisms Need to Change? | E1073 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 18, 2023 positive
Assertion Supported
Beezer Clarkson: LPs are continuing to make new venture commitments
“That's not true. I think LPs are being more selective and making new investments. I know we are, I know others that are, They're absolutely making new investments.”
Beezer Clarkson Oct 18, 2023 ▶ 6:37 Beezer Clarkson: Are LPs Open for Business & Why Do LP Incentive Mechanisms Need to Change? | E1073 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 18, 2023 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Clarkson: LPs are shifting to accept partial secondary sales of winners
“And I've heard LPs that used to say, hold on to all your winners all the time are now saying, well, I meant that. But in context, there are times when it could be useful.”
Beezer Clarkson Oct 18, 2023 ▶ 15:37 Beezer Clarkson: Are LPs Open for Business & Why Do LP Incentive Mechanisms Need to Change? | E1073 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 18, 2023
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Clarkson: LPs See Venture Managers Value Identical Portfolio Companies Differently
“If you're an LP that has a, as a sort of existing book of venture business, and you've got it over different times, you will a hundred percent see that people will value their companies differently.”
Beezer Clarkson Oct 18, 2023 ▶ 34:22 Beezer Clarkson: Are LPs Open for Business & Why Do LP Incentive Mechanisms Need to Change? | E1073 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 3, 2023 positive
Insight
Lemkin: LPs prioritize differentiation and edge over conventional VC habits
“The last thing, and they'll, they'll cut corners, and they'll invest in someone that didn't finish high school, and they'll invest in the 10,000th, whatever, but if they're, if they perceive an edge, they'll take the risk at the, rather than the person that sl…”
Jason Lemkin Nov 3, 2023 ▶ 30:32 Roundtable #5 with Jack Altman, Auren Hoffman, Jason Lemkin, Harry Stebbings | E1077 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Dec 18, 2023 positive
Insight
Lacaillade: LP capital scarcity creates ideal window to build investment programs
“I mean, I think probably in 2016, 17, like a lot of funds were really oversubscribed quickly, but being in that moment where the power shifts, where there's a dearth of capital on the LP side, and there's that, that is a ideal time to scale a program. To build…”
Peter Lacaillade Dec 18, 2023 ▶ 3:30 Peter Lacaillade: Why Now is the Best Time to Invest in Emerging Managers | E1096 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 25, 2024 neutral
Insight
Clark: LPs must invest across every vintage rather than timing markets
“From an LP's perspective, the way that you're able to do that is to make sure that you are investing consistently across every vintage. You're not trying to time the market.”
David Clark Mar 25, 2024 ▶ 21:09 David Clark: Lessons from 32 Years of Fund Investing - Why Exits Will Be Larger | E1131 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Dec 6, 2024 bearish
Prediction Held up
Stebbings: 2021 Venture Vintage Will Show Poor Returns Amid Inflated Valuations
“I'm pretty worried for venture as an asset class. I think 21 will be some pretty bad numbers and a really shitty vintage, and I think people are artificially keeping numbers high, and I don't think LPs have quite the understanding of how bad it is.”
Harry Stebbings Dec 6, 2024 ▶ 49:49 Zachary Bookman: Why Valuations and Fundraising are BS | E1235 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 26, 2025 positive
Insight
Green: Emerging fund managers must strictly adhere to their promised LP strategy
“What you tell your LP is, just make sure you stick to it and do it. That's actually the best advice I can give for any emerging fund manager. It's like, look, define what you're gonna do, and do exactly that, and don't go out, don't go, don't stray from it at …”
Mitchell Green Mar 26, 2025 ▶ 1:17:46 Mitchell Green, Founder @ Lead Edge Capital: Why Traditional VC is Broken · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 17, 2025 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
O'Driscoll: Megafunds will deliver mid-to-high teen returns instead of 3x multiples
“The returns mightn't be three X venture returns, but you know, the competition is the small cap return of 11%. You know, if you're delivering high, mid, high teens, it may be that the LPs think that's great, and that's the bet they're taking.”
Rory O'Driscoll Apr 17, 2025 ▶ 26:54 a16z's $20BN Fund & Founders Fund's $4.6BN & Why Josh Kushner Has Mastered the Game · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 4, 2025
Insight
Ideal LP Concentration for VC Funds Is Under 10%
“Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, best case scenario, you don't have anyone more than 10%, but if you're raising a fifty million dollar fund or a hundred million dollar fund and you can, you know, secure a 10, 20, thirty million dollar check and they're long term alig…”
Miles Dieffenbach Aug 4, 2025 ▶ 31:41 Miles Dieffenbach: Inside Carnegie Mellon’s $4BN Endowment & The Math Behind DPI, TVPI, Illiquidity · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 30, 2025
Assertion Open · timeframe Oct 2026
Stebbings: Top VC firms force LPs into 2:1 fund stapling requirement
“If you're an LP and you want to be in the early stage fund, you will often, very often with top tier brands, have to put in two times that into another fund to get that one dollar in the other, and you don't get your pick of which fund. Very often you have to …”
Harry Stebbings Oct 30, 2025 ▶ 25:49 OpenAI Restructuring: Who Wins and Who Loses & Mercor Raises $350M at a $10BN Valuation · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 30, 2025
Insight
Lemkin: Strong VC managers face minimal DPI pressure from LPs
“I just don't know that there's this massive DPI pressure. If you have a hot, if you have a hot hand.”
Jason Lemkin Oct 30, 2025 ▶ 1:00:48 OpenAI Restructuring: Who Wins and Who Loses & Mercor Raises $350M at a $10BN Valuation · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Dec 18, 2025 bearish
Assertion Supported
Calacanis: LP appetite for new seed managers faded after 2021
“I see that appetite having faded since 2021, and I do not see a resurgence of finding tiny new managers.”
Jason Lemkin Dec 18, 2025 ▶ 5:20 Will Cursor Kill Figma? Lightspeed Raises $9B & OpenAI’s $1B from Disney & #1 App in App Store · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 7, 2026 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Mitchell Green: VC LPs are hyper-focused on cash distributions over paper gains
“I do think that investors are very, very, very focused on DPI now.”
Mitchell Green Mar 7, 2026 ▶ 39:22 Mitchell Green: Why 50% of VCs Should Not Exist · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 28, 2026 negative
Opinion
Raanan: LPs who distribute venture allocations evenly should be worried
“If I'm a limited partner and I have distributed my venture allocation evenly, I wouldn't sleep well at night.”
Gili Raanan Mar 28, 2026 ▶ 3:21 Why Margins Don't Matter for Early-Stage Startups | Gili Raanan · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 9, 2026 negative
Opinion
Lemkin: VC limited partners are uncomfortable with firm leadership changes
“LPs are uncomfortable with change. LPs say that they're looking at the new generation and the Vanguard. But they are comfortable when the old leadership is still actively involved in the fund. It does make LPs more comfortable whether they're writing, investin…”
Jason Lemkin Apr 9, 2026 ▶ 39:56 OpenAI Buys TBPN & Their Management Team Reboot | Mercor Hack & Why Now is the Time for Cyber · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Apr 30, 2026 positive
Insight
O'Driscoll: Ten mega-exits can cover total LP expectations for VC
“It's entirely plausible that 10 super big exits cover the entire nut from the LP perspective, such that it's still a good business.”
Rory O'Driscoll Apr 30, 2026 ▶ 0:00 Anthropic Raises $45B but Falls Short on Compute & Thoma Bravo Hand Back Medallia Keys to Creditors · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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