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Brands failing to match Amazon's two-hour delivery will eventually go bankrupt
“And if you don't fix it, if you don't solve it, if you're not able to at least get parity to Amazon's value proposition of two-hour delivery, you will go bankrupt.”
Butterfield: Microsoft Teams competes primarily with Zoom rather than Slack
“Teams, which is the real alternative in some sense, although I think it's much more of a competitor to Zoom or other voice and video calling services than it is a Slack.”
Butterfield: Microsoft Teams is limited to 5,000 users and 200 channels
“It's limited to 5000 people per instance and critically only 200 channels. And if you want to add a 201st channel, you have to hard delete one of them without the whole history.”
Lawrence: Hire a VP of Sales at $8M to $10M ARR
“Like, I have an opinion. It should be between eight to 10 in ARR. If you want a really solid VP of sales, they're gonna want to come in. They don't want it to be too scrappy, and they don't want it to be too far ahead”
An 'A' investor provides capital, signs paperwork, and stays quiet
“An A investor gives you money, signs paperwork when you want them to, and shuts the fuck up. That's an A. There's a lot of room below an A. There's not a lot of room above.”
Seka: White men hold the most impactful voices in diversity advocacy
“If you are a white person, and my god, if you are a white man, which I love white men, I'm married to one, I'm made to, I'm down with it, right? I like them, but you have the most important voice in this, because no one expects you to say anything.”
Western: Founders amass more wealth through frequent, smaller startup exits
“We think that most founders can actually use the overfocus on growth to their advantage, like a judo artist, either by more often choosing the lifestyle option, or by having a more sober approach to their relationship with their companies and with VCs, by actu…”
Cohen: Servant leadership leads founders to do scut work and burn out
“This crappy word, servant leadership, it leads to stuff like this. This is the scut work that needs to be done, and I can do it, so I'll do it so the team doesn't need, doesn't have to do it. That sounds altruistic, and what it does is burn you out because you…”
Gunderson: Most Silicon Valley VCs have no understanding of tech
“When I first came out, I was like, holy shit, most of these VCs have no, you know, no idea in regards to tech”
Lemkin: Expanding to NYC instead of SF is European SaaS's biggest mistake
“Unless your customers are in New York, unless you're doing financial services or some parts of ad tech or otherwise, going to New York is the worst idea.
you get none of the, almost none of the benefits of being in the Bay Area.
You don't get the customers he…”
Lemkin: Abandoning free trials leads to broken onboarding and mediocre software
“Once you give up free trials, you will never go back, and you will be able to have terrible onboarding, and you will be able to have all this friction behind the scenes, and you will be able to have many broken processes and things, and you will never build gr…”
Barrett: VCs make money deploying capital, not on exits
“But the VC business model is they get paid when they invest. And so it actually, they don't really make money on the exit. Like, there's the carry, they would say, at the very end.”
Barrett: Hiring outside executives tells top internal talent to leave
“The second that you hire in, you know, sort of that, that, that pro who comes in above everyone else, you've just told everyone else in your company, fuck you. There's no way you can ever grow in this company. Because we have just hired someone above you whose…”
Barrett: A predatory executive class exploits startups with false credentials
“There's a whole class of people out there preying upon startups that will just come in with amazing credentials and a willingness to obliterate whatever's in their way and because it's not their company in the first place.”
Fraden: 50% of the fastest-growing SaaS companies turned out to be garbage
“I bet if you went back over the last five years and looked at the top three or four companies in each of those five years that were at that point in time the fastest growing SaaS companies in history, I bet a solid 50% of those companies turned out to be garba…”
Siroker calls Adobe's marketing cloud a poorly integrated 'Franken-suite'
“Adobe you know, has a product that, you know, has been evolved through acquisitions, which turns what they're offering into what our customers tend to describe as a Franken-sweet. It's a bunch of products that don't really integrate well with one another.”
Reina: ElevenLabs would have neared $1B ARR with earlier senior sales hiring
“And I think those two items, if we had done it much sooner, then for instance, we would have already passed a billion dollars in revenue, for instance, right? Or like getting close to that billion dollars in revenues.”
Reina: ElevenLabs paid zero sales commissions on POCs, only recurring revenue
“For us, we established that like we would compensate, we pay commissions on recurrent revenue contracts, but not in one offs. So if you sign a POC and you pay for like two months or like three months or like two weeks, you would not Get any commission on that.…”
Reina: ElevenLabs account executives achieve 300% to 600% quota attainment
“To this point in time right now, like three and a half years in after I started selling the first product, I can tell you we have like account execs doing 600% quota. We have account execs and it's not uncommon. We have account execs doing like a lot of them d…”
Reina: ElevenLabs GTM team averages 167% quarterly quota attainment
“The average quote attainment on a per quarter basis is across the entire go-to-market team is a 167% every single quarter.”
Reina: LLMs struggle in sales because they only produce within-distribution results
“I do still believe that, like, AI agents are not that good today actually at doing something that is very relationship driven. But they're getting much better at it, right? So, like, the problem is when you look at LLMs, they look at the distribution site, and…”
Rubrik CPO: Users will eventually operate Rubrik entirely without UI dashboards
“And our vision here is that eventually you can operate all of rubric through this interface, that you do not need the UI and dashboards at all, that it will be a fully agentic experience.”
Lemkin: Customer AI agents will eliminate the need for underlying CRMs
“In CX and support if I'm talking to an agent on someone's website as a potential customer and that agent keeps me forever, I might not need, there may be no need for the CRM or CX system or SFA that undermined it. Used to underlie that interaction because the …”
Lemkin: Raising API prices to offset lost seats will accelerate CRM churn
“I think it is a self-inflicted wound for a lot of systems of record and SaaS centers as they jack up the prices because seats are going down and agents are going up and they jack up the price for access. It's incense us finally to put more and more of our data…”
Lemkin: AI SDR emails beat 99% of humans but lack deep context
“The artisan Monaco agent force emails. They're all better than a human, which is all that really matters today as we record this, right? They're better than 99% of humans. But they're not great like that RepliDeck. None of them are great.”
Lemkin: SaaStr banned small sub-$20k sponsors in 2022 to avoid stress
“For a while, when things were crazy, like in 20, 22, we like banned small sponsors because we didn't want the stress. We just didn't, we just like you, if that's so much, if 20,000 dollars is so much money to you, like you're betting your entire startup. Come …”
Lemkin: Software vendors will lose if AI cannot autonomously execute APIs
“You're going to lose in the vendor war if you're not the one that not just is recommended in AO, but where the agent says, I will just do it with this API.”
Bialecki: Future software engineering will be agent-driven with asynchronous human escalation
“I think this is the future of how software is going to get built, where very much when you do a normal product review with actual like humans, with people, like you meet and you discuss the key product decisions and you harden what you're after. We can now do …”
Bialecki: Headless software is the new default as user interfaces become infrastructure
“What we tend to think of as software. I now think of as its infrastructure. It's just a means to an end. So if you build some amazing UI, that's great. Like there might be, there are a lot of humans that will still use that some AIs, but the reality is like he…”
Bialecki: Klaviyo mandated all employees reach Level 3 agent proficiency by June
“We saw everybody's like, look, by the end of June, you need to be an L three, which is if you're not constantly running either end sessions or a team of agents, right? You're just not, you're not going to be skilled to survive in this next era.”
Bialecki: Fuzzy human workflow interfaces fail when deploying AI agents
“I know this feels, look, a lot of humans, we're used to these kind of fuzzy interfaces, and then we'll meet, we'll have meetings to kind of figure out what he's first going to do. I think that it's not a great way to work, honestly, and it doesn't work with ag…”
Bialecki: Most businesses will deploy their own AI agent by year-end
“By the end of this year, I think most businesses are gonna have their own agent. They deploy either on their website or behind a phone number or through email or to chat with your Claude that you can just access.”
Bialecki: AI agent products requiring manual implementation are dead on arrival
“I think for a lot of agents, if you can't try that product out of the gates and it requires an indication, you're dead on arrival.”
Lemkin: Context-rich AI agents act as proactive team members, not tools
“What's changed is the agents have so much context. They're aware of so much that every single day when you log in, especially with you, when you log in with 10 K now our AI VP of revenue, it has new things that wants to build and do. It's not a software tool. …”
Lemkin: Custom AI tools outperform $50k to $80k commercial SaaS solutions
“Is that listen, you could buy this functionality exists in other products, or you could buy it for 50 grand or 80 grand a year today, right? But because it is a well-known body of software, Claude knows it. So Claude can just build it for you. Buy, don't build…”
Lemkin: AI agents autonomously selecting software lock vendors out of deals
“The agent made the call for a heat map vendor We'd never heard of, and we didn't even need to do more diligence. You trusted the agent. Someone lost a 50, 20, a twenty-k deal out there to an agent, and you, they were never, and this paid vet, this other, this …”
Lemkin: SaaStr churned from Notion after seven years due to AI agents
“So seven years together, no complaints, Notion. You're cheap. You did a good job. You're cool. You're extensible when no one was extensible. We had a teammate that loved you so much. You invited him to a user conference to present, and we still churned with a …”
Ibarra: Claude autonomously added unauthorized guardrails to SaaStr's contract workflows
“The agent with Fable, since it was on for so long, decided in the last week, I don't know where along the road, It would exclude some things in our Panadoc that it thought might be an NDA or a non-binding like sales contract.”
Lemkin: Running Claude over Replit via MCP forces cleaner code completion
“These models are goal-seeking, right? And they want to finish projects. So Replit just wants, Amelia, you know this, Replit wants to finish. Replit wants to finish, and so does CloudCode if you use it on an own. But when, but if you use Cloud on top of it coun…”
Lemkin: Claude's MCP capabilities threaten dedicated agent orchestration startups
“It is a threat to folks that are building these sort of agent substrates, which is that we, listen, every time we talk about our agents and stuff, a bunch of folks will tweet back or say, Hey, listen, I've got the substrate. I've got the, I've got a way to con…”
Salyers: SaaStr AI Agent Migrated 300 Campaigns in One Hour
“It literally took him an hour to move, like, 300 campaigns 10 years of data in those campaigns, right, of, like, who attended Sass Randall back in 2016. He moved them all into Salesforce on his own.”
Salyers: SaaStr Marketing Data Migration Cost Only $14.28 in AI Compute
“And then I looked at the cost and it was like, 14 dollars and 28 cents or whatever it was. And I was like, that's literally less than California minimum wage.”
Lemkin: Software Moats Are Shallower in the Age of AI
“Moats still exist in the age of AI, but they're just like shallower, so you better fucking deliver value.”
Lemkin: Competitors' AI agents will steal customers from incumbent SaaS vendors
“Agents will steal your customers. Not your humans, not the great sales rep, not a moment in time, not your competitor going down at the end of the month or for a weekend. Your competitor's agents will steal you, steal your customers.”
Lemkin: SaaStr Connect will demote profiles that mention burnout
“Sastra connect, which is this new hiring platform. We're going to actively search for anyone that says burnout in their bio, and we're going to give them a quiet demotion, massive demotion.”
O'Driscoll: OpenAI and Anthropic Revenues Won't Match AI CapEx Until 2031-2032
“The stunning thing is it takes until 2031 or 2032 before
The revenue from those two companies surpasses the total capex.”
O'Driscoll: Foundation model makers will probably continue capturing the delta value
“The truth is they are the apex predator of this distribution. They are the guys who have taken the value, the delta value, and probably will continue to do so under those forecasts.”
O'Driscoll: VCs Are Hedging Between Foundation Models and SaaS
“No one knows the answer and most VCs are betting both ways. They're chucking a bunch of money in at a modest 300 or six hundred billion pre at Antropic. And at the same time, they're doing a whole bunch of investments that only make sense if in fact there is r…”