Zenefits

15 statements across 10 episodes · 7 bullish · 4 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement Dec 7, 2022 by Sam Blond · said 122 times in 34 episodes since 2019 · across every show →

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brought up most by Sam Blond (77), Matt Plank (19), Jason Lemkin (14), Brendon Cassidy (3), Jen Knight (1), Henrique Dubugras (1), Brian Murray (1), Ben Braverman (1)

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Everything said about Zenefits, oldest first

Dec 7, 2022 negative
Insight
Blond: Zenefits Erred by Branding Around Fast Growth Rather Than Product
“Embracing this identity around sort of like fast growing tech company raised a bunch of money. That was a mistake. And I think the right thing to do or what to try and do is associate your company with what you do. Had we been known as, you know, the best heal…”
Sam Blond Dec 7, 2022 ▶ 18:24 SaaStr CRO Confidential: Founders Fund Partner Sam Blond + Gong VPS Jameson Yung + Jason Lemkin
Dec 15, 2022 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Parker Conrad hustled a free Outreach seat for early Rippling
“Parker actually convinced Riley, who was, had moved over from Zenefits to Outreach to give us, like, a free seat in the early days which was a great play because we became a big customer of theirs.”
Matt Plank Dec 15, 2022 ▶ 6:44 SaaStr CRO Confidential: Founders Fund Partner Sam Blond + Rippling VP Sales Matt Plank
Dec 15, 2022 neutral
Assertion Supported
Blond: Zenefits started 2014 at $500K ARR targeting $10M
“Four months into Zenefits we were in 2014, our target was ten million in ARR. We started 20 14 about 500,000 of ARR.”
Sam Blond Dec 15, 2022 ▶ 22:38 SaaStr CRO Confidential: Founders Fund Partner Sam Blond + Rippling VP Sales Matt Plank
Dec 15, 2022 positive
Disclosure
Rippling unlocked early outbound by pitching IT automation instead of HR
“And so what, the way that we kind of described what we did to people was we basically wrote an email that was something along the lines of like, look, I'm sure that you have like you know, an automated process for like onboarding employees and managing HR and …”
Matt Plank Dec 15, 2022 ▶ 9:20 SaaStr CRO Confidential: Founders Fund Partner Sam Blond + Rippling VP Sales Matt Plank
Dec 15, 2022 positive
Assertion Supported
Zenefits doubled its 2014 revenue target to $20M ARR and hit it
“We changed the revenue target to twenty million. Like two days later, Parker couldn't keep the secret and we hit it.”
Sam Blond Dec 15, 2022 ▶ 24:09 SaaStr CRO Confidential: Founders Fund Partner Sam Blond + Rippling VP Sales Matt Plank
Dec 15, 2022 neutral
Assertion Open · timeframe Dec 2022
Plank: Gusto generated huge early revenue through accounting channel partnerships
“We never had accountant partnerships when all of our competitors like Gusto, you know, had an enormous amount of their revenue in the early days came from the accounting channel.”
Matt Plank Dec 15, 2022 ▶ 13:21 SaaStr CRO Confidential: Founders Fund Partner Sam Blond + Rippling VP Sales Matt Plank
Jan 3, 2023 positive
Assertion Partly supported
Blond: Zenefits AEs became revenue leaders for Rippling, Gong, and TripActions
“Zenefits alone produced as starting as AEs, the head of revenue at Rippling, the head of revenue at Gong, the head of revenue at Modern Health, the former head of revenue at TripActions, like all of these came out of Zenefits alone”
Sam Blond Jan 3, 2023 ▶ 18:40 SaaStr CRO Confidential:Hiring a Great VP of Sales Today Sam Blond + Former Lattice CRO Dini Mehta
Feb 7, 2023 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Blond: Zenefits generated less total revenue after massively overhiring sales reps
“And so the actual result of hiring a bunch more SDRs and AEs wasn't that we had incrementally more revenue, but sort of less efficient revenue on a per rep basis. We actually had less revenue. We closed less revenue by hiring all of these people because it was…”
Sam Blond Feb 7, 2023 ▶ 22:18 How To Adapt Your Sales Strategy To The Current Sales Environment | Modern Health SVP of Sales
Feb 7, 2023 positive
Insight
Sam Blond: B2B companies underutilize internal staff who match buyer personas
“It's almost universally true where the product that you are selling at your business, you have the buyer of that product internally... And so companies probably under leverage that internal resource around you know, what the buyer, if they are selling to this …”
Sam Blond Feb 7, 2023 ▶ 12:33 How To Adapt Your Sales Strategy To The Current Sales Environment | Modern Health SVP of Sales
Apr 5, 2023 negative
Disclosure
Blond: Zenefits waited far too long to hire a sales operations leader
“At Zenefits, I pushed off hiring anyone in this function for too long. I didn't have an appreciation for it.”
Sam Blond Apr 5, 2023 ▶ 13:56 CRO Confidential: Guild Education SVP, Go To Market Strategy, Operations & Enablement Cherishma Shah
Jun 1, 2023
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Blonde: Zenefits targeted growing from $500k to $10M ARR in 2014
“When Zenefits was very young and immature, we had a goal of going from like 500,000 dollars in ARR to ten million in ARR in one year. This was 2014.”
Sam Blond Jun 1, 2023 ▶ 37:43 SaaStr CRO Confidential: Principles that Drove Wiz’s $0 to The First $100m ARR | Wiz CRO Colin Jones
Jun 27, 2023 positive
Disclosure
Blond: Zenefits raised its 2014 ARR target from $10M to $20M
“One of my favorite Parker stories is I joined in late 2013, so my first full year was 2014, and about a quarter in, we were shooting for a revenue target of ten million dollars by the end of the year. We started at something like half a million dollars of ARR.…”
Sam Blond Jun 27, 2023 ▶ 0:00 Rippling CEO Parker Conrad's Theory of the Compound Startup: Disrupting How We Think About Software
Jul 14, 2023
Insight
Lemkin: Most founders underestimate sales hiring capacity needed months ahead
“What most folks do wrong, almost all COs I remember I actually did it with Sam and Parker in the early days of Zenefits, and then they got it right, is they just don't calculate Just the amount of human capital it will take to hit these numbers. And they usua…”
Jason Lemkin Jul 14, 2023 ▶ 46:12 Why You're Unfundable Today: The Cold, Hard Truths About SaaS Part 2 with SaaStr CEO Jason Lemkin
Jan 4, 2024 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Blond: Rapidly scaling SDRs at Zenefits tanked performance of existing reps
“When we added all of these new SDRs into the mix, not only were they less effective than the more tenured existing reps, they actually made the existing reps far less successful because we had to tap into this TAM base that people were less likely to convert.”
Sam Blond Jan 4, 2024 ▶ 39:11 From Zero to Hero: How to Dominate Outbound SaaS Sales with Rippling and Sam Blond
Dec 18, 2024 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lemkin: Rippling Reproduced Zenefits' Massive Outbound Sales Model
“And they took the model, Parker, and Sam built that model at Zenefits, and then they reproduced it at Rippling. Massive outbound model.”
Jason Lemkin Dec 18, 2024 ▶ 19:07 How to Think About Product-Led Growth, Bootstrapping vs VC, and Early Exits with Jason Lemkin
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