Ahmed Rahim

Co-Founder & Board Chair, Numi Organic Tea · 1 appearance on the record.

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In 1999, he co-founded Numi Organic Tea with his sister Reem Hassani, pioneering organic, Fair Trade–certified teas and compostable, plant-based packaging in North America. Beyond formulating blends and sourcing botanicals globally for Numi, he co-founded OSC (One Step Closer), an industry collaborative focused on sustainable packaging and regenerative business practices.

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Opinion
Ahmed Rahim credits psychedelics with saving his life and expanding his worldview.
“Well, I always say that psychedelics saved my life, and definitely gave me an awareness of what the bigger world is like”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 7:49 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
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Starbucks acquiring Tazo drove independent coffee roasters to buy Numi instead.
“It was actually a great opportunity for us, because coffee roasters and the food service didn't want to support necessarily Starbucks, so they wanted who's the new kid on the block, and Numi was a great fit, so we actually were able to take advantage of that o…”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 41:50 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
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Numi Tea Financed Its Launch With a $250K Line of Credit on Dad's Home
“We went to our dad and asked him if he would use the leverage of his house to get a loan. So we partnered with a bank in Cleveland and he refinanced his home and he had a line of credit on his home up To X amount, but we just started with a 250,000 dollar line…”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 35:21 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
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Numi hit $4.5 million in revenue by year four on $2,000 salaries.
“Yeah, we were already probably north of four and a half million by year four, and we were probably taking two to 3000 a month of salary.”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 47:54 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
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Hain Celestial made a firm acquisition offer to purchase Numi Tea.
“Yeah, they did make a hard offer.”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 49:36 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
Disclosure
Numi tapped a $1 million credit line on their father's house.
“We just had this working line capital from the bank on our dad's house, which by then increased to almost a million dollars.”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 52:24 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
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Numi's revenue flatlined during the Great Recession after hitting $20 million.
“There were years we were growing 40, 60, 70%, but at this time, as we were maturing a little bit, and we were probably north of 20,000,015, twenty million, those kind of growths became a lot more challenging. Then, well, there was the 2009, 10 recession. Where…”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 57:29 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
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Numi took about ten years to reach positive EBITDA profitability.
“About 10 years into the business, we were able to kind of get a lot more solid and create a profitable EBITDA.”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 1:01:23 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
Disclosure
Numi raised $5 million, then $25 million to buy out early investors.
“And it was right around then that we had a lot of cash cause we raised about five million. And then we raised about, you know, five years later, twenty five million to take out some investors.”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 1:01:35 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
Disclosure
It took 15 years for Numi to repay their father's $1M loan.
“When we raised that 25, 15 years into the business, we were able to finally take out our dad's million dollar working line capital”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 1:01:47 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
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Numi initially rejected distribution offers from Walmart, Target, and Trader Joe's.
“Walmart wanted us in year seven, eight, you know, Trader Joe's wanted us in year two, Target wanted us when we were young, and we kind of said, oh, we're not ready for them yet.”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 1:05:11 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
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Rahim: Co-founded Eastern European Wholesale Business Selling 300 Loose Teas
“They asked me to be a partner, then we opened up some more tea houses, and then we ended up opening up a, Pretty big wholesale business of loose teas, about 300 loose teas that we sold to tea houses through a lot of Eastern Europe.”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 16:37 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
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Suppliers initially mistook Numi for automotive manufacturer NUMMI
“I used to call people for packaging and I'd say I'm from NuMe. And they would call me back. They would give me all the attention in the world. I'd be like, wow, they're really helping a tiny little startup. And then later on, I realized they thought we were ne…”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 28:12 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
Disclosure
Numi will never discontinue its weak-selling namesake dried lime tea.
“Even though it still doesn't perform that well, 20 years later, we would never get rid of it.”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 29:59 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
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Numi generated over $100,000 in retail orders during its first year.
“I would say over a 100,000 when we look at some of the chains that we got in, like Sur La Table and Neiman Marcus and Cost Plus and Rainbow. I would say over a 100,000 for that year.”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 40:51 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
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Food service and luxury hotels drove Numi's revenue early on.
“Cafes, restaurants, hotels, Ritz-Carlton's and Fairmont hotels, and all the fancy places, and department stores, so that would be specialty, but food service picked up really quick. That was actually the majority of our business in our first year and a half to…”
Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 41:14 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim

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Statements about Ahmed Rahim, by other people (3)

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Nouri: Ahmed Rahim Threatened to Drop Her Unless She Built for Impact
“And at one point, Ahmed turned around and said to me, I'm just not going to support you anymore or be your advisor if you don't think of some other way to produce something that actually has the ability to have change.”
Kat Nouri Nov 22, 2021 ▶ 36:24 Stasher and Modern Twist: Kat Nouri
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Numi Tea launched at five to ten times conventional tea bag prices.
“When Numi Organic Tea was launched in 1999 by brother and sister Ahmed Rahim and Reem Hassani, their prices were five or even 10 times higher than what people were used to paying for tea bags.”
Guy Raz Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 2:33 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim
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The co-founders' father bailed out Numi using his pension plan.
“Our dad kind of bailed us out on several occasions because summers were really tight, tea season isn't until the fall, and you have to buy all your teas in the summer, so he would bail us out with his pension plan”
Reem Hassani Jul 5, 2021 ▶ 36:04 Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim

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Appearances (1)

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Numi Organic Tea: Reem Hassani and Ahmed Rahim Jul 5, 2021 28m
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