CATL

9 statements across 8 episodes · 5 bullish · 0 bearish · 6 people on the record · first statement Feb 23, 2023 by Shayle Kann · said 27 times in 7 episodes since 2022 · across every show →

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Everything said about CATL, oldest first

Feb 23, 2023 neutral
Assertion Supported
Kann: Top ten lithium-ion battery manufacturers are all Asian companies
“The top 10 manufacturers of lithium ion batteries are all based in Asia. Which is pretty interesting. So not all based in China. So this is the interesting dynamic about battery manufacturing at the moment. It is, yes, CATL, which is a Chinese company, is the …”
Shayle Kann Feb 23, 2023 ▶ 37:03 2023 trends: biomass, ESG, batteries and more
Dec 7, 2023 bullish
Prediction Didn’t hold up
US domestic battery manufacturing will reach 200 GWh by 2025
“And at that point, we're going to have the LG GM Ultium joint venture making over a hundred gigawatt hours of batteries throughout this country. LG Stellantis will be making 35 gigawatt hours. Stellantis Samsung STI will be making another 30. And then Ford wil…”
Sam Jaffe Dec 7, 2023 ▶ 32:38 Update: What the new Treasury rules mean for EV supply chains
Oct 10, 2024 neutral
Opinion
Frith: Past subsidies are not fundamental to China's current battery cost advantage
“So the subsidies from the last decade They've helped to build up these big companies that we know, BYD, CATL, Eve Energy, etc. But they're not fundamental in this, you know, in the way that people think they are to the kind of low-cost structure that we're see…”
James Frith Oct 10, 2024 ▶ 36:36 Unpacking China’s cheap battery costs
Dec 12, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Jaffe: BYD and CATL dominate a consolidated field of Chinese battery makers
“There were probably close to 100 Chinese battery manufacturers, and today there's 10 that, that matter and that do it at scale, and really there's two that, that completely dominate the industry, and that's BYD and CATL.”
Sam Jaffe Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 6:59 What went wrong at Northvolt?
Dec 12, 2024 neutral
Assertion Supported
Jaffe: Chinese state industrial policy created CATL, now the world's top producer
“The emergence of CATL, which was essentially a company that was really invented in the back rooms of the industrial governmental complex in, in China about 12 years ago that, and it essentially just, you know, it followed the plan perfectly and is now the larg…”
Sam Jaffe Dec 12, 2024 ▶ 8:50 What went wrong at Northvolt?
Feb 20, 2025 bullish
Assertion Supported
Yao: CATL's CEO projects sodium-ion taking half of the LFP market
“Robin Zhang, the chairman and CEO of CATL, announced basically last November that he expects Sodium Mines to take up to half of LFP's market share.”
Adrian Yao Feb 20, 2025 ▶ 42:05 The promise and perils of sodium-ion batteries
Jul 17, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Lubershain: Ford is moving ahead with $3B Michigan CATL-licensed plant
“Ford has basically said, we're moving ahead with this three billion dollar battery plant in Michigan, where they're licensing lithium iron phosphate technology from CATL, the Chinese battery giant.”
Andy Lubershane Jul 17, 2025 ▶ 15:15 Five big questions emerging from the OBBB
Aug 14, 2025 positive
Assertion Supported
Mossberg: CATL hybrid vehicle battery packs combine sodium-ion and LFP
“CATL is been very vocal about their hybrid pack technology where they're using, I think it's a layered oxide based sodium ion, but they basically have some portion of a vehicle pack that is sodium for primarily for power and for cold weather performance, and t…”
Landon Mossberg Aug 14, 2025 ▶ 11:49 The case for sodium-ion
Oct 16, 2025 bullish
Opinion
Kann: Sodium-ion battery hype is justified as CATL actively deploys them
“I think there is a degree of hype that is warranted, largely because it seems pretty clear that some of the big Chinese manufacturers, CATL included, are investing a lot in sodium ion and are actually deploying.”
Shayle Kann Oct 16, 2025 ▶ 33:11 Calibrating hype with Akshat Rathi
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