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“I don't believe AI is ever going to be out of our control in the sense of, yes, I mean, there may be occasions when it does something, but we're going to be quick to correct it and say, no, no.”

“That bottom up Will take you much further than you thought you could go, but will never take you all the way to where you want to go. So Wikipedia, this classic bottom-up thing, over time, there's a more and more top-down editorial control, and eventually, ov…”

“It would not surprise me to see Some new religions based around AI emerging in the kind of vacuum of the waning of the established religions. And let me say one last thing. And I would expect it to see these first in China and maybe Russia because they have a …”

“Like I think that VR will be the most social of all the social media ever.”

“I think definitely AIs will be creative. They definitely will, would do creative things, because creativity is like, gonna be like driving. It's like, of course machines can be creative.”

“If you're unpredictable in that way, you're much less likely to be taken over by an AI. You want to live your life in a way that the AI cannot They predict what you're going to do. They cannot kind of fake you or cannot imitate you.”

“Right now, the best way to think of these AI is the chat. Training, the LL, the LLMs, is that they're the epitome of wisdom of the crowd. Ok, they're wisdom of the crowd thinking. That's what it is. It's the collective, all the average people in the world, and…”

“In my view, and this, again, took me a long time to kind of realize this, but in my view, the worst crimes against humanity have all been done in trying to eliminate evil. And so, the lesson to me is, like, if you are in the business of trying to eliminate ev…”

“This is by far our biggest invention after the scientific method”

“I think this is one of the shifts that I can see coming, which is that we kind of flip things around, and you have a reverse market, so to speak, for attention, where you're paying the high influencers directly, not going through the ad agencies.”

“So people will be paid by how well they work with The AI.”

“I think what humans are going to be good for in the next 10 to 20 years is these interpersonal roles, like, you know, nursing at home coaching experiences, again, coming back to experiences, and asking questions, and so I think If you want to answer, you're go…”

“Any job that can be specified or can be specified in terms of efficiency or productivity is a job that humans should not be doing, and it will be a job that would go to the bots.”

“20, 25 year horizon that I'm talking about. So, so I think beyond that, yes, I think it's wide open, but I think, you know, for the next 25 years, I think this is what I'm talking about. I think computer science will continue to run everything. Software will c…”

“Don't aim to be the best, aim to be the only. So if you are in this category that it's hard to imitate you, that's a That's a really good place to be in the human world, and also a really good place to be in the AI world, because AIs will have difficulty in im…”

“If your views on other things can be predicted from your views on one thing, you need to be very careful that you're not in the grip of an ideologue, because that's what it is. It means that you, your opinions are too highly correlated with each other, and tha…”

“This is the most powerful technology we've ever made. It will be abused. I'm sorry to say it will probably be used, will be weaponized, and those are always something to worry about.”

“The fantasy, the Hollywood fantasy of the lone villain on the mountaintop who has all this technology that works, and there's no IT support, it just works the first time, and they can gain control of these very complicated, that's just, it's like dragons. It's…”

“So far we've synthesized basically two varieties, a pattern recognition and a little bit of kind of generative ability. There's this logical deduction You know, symbolic reason. None of these things have we come close to synthesizing.”

“Nationalism is something bigger than yourself to believe in, and so that's why there's going to be a rise in China of nationalism. That's sort of almost inevitable, because that's bigger than yourself, and you can believe in that.”

“And we could very quickly have universal language translation of speaking over yours, and I think people underestimate the change that that would bring about in the world. You'd have millions of people who are highly skilled in everything except the skill of E…”

“The idea of leapfrogging technology is a myth. It doesn't really work. You actually have to, if you want to have a high tech infrastructure, you actually need the intermediate roads, clean water. You can't skip over that, and so they all need to be built out i…”

“So I would suggest that I can't see any counter force where there will be less tracking of our lives in 20 or 30 years. There's going to be more of it.”

“I think the job of law is to kind of put into place what has been worked out In other places. And so I think in a certain sense, the law is going to follow the technology and shouldn't really precede it.”

“I mean, can you imagine if the music industry had accepted? From the front. I mean, how far ahead they would have been if they say, okay, this is inevitable, this copy thing. We're not, we're just going to try and work with it. You know, there's things to adju…”

“The amount of attention that you give to a TV, you'll get 20 cents an hour is what they're earning for your attention.”

“One is that we're moving from an internet of information to the internet of experiences, right? So that's the currency, is experiences.”

“Because that's what's going to, most of the stuff in VR will be low cats.”

“And so my hypothesis is, is that AI becomes a commodity on the grid. And that it's served like electricity. You purchase it like you purchase electricity to do what you want.”

“The Skynet thing I think is cheap. Hollywood trope that is highly, highly unlikely.”

“AI is going to be very close to that where you can basically take the world's best AI and completely waste it in ways that you couldn't before because it was too precious. And that's when all the new things and innovations and all the new wealth comes is when …”

“Right now, the best way to think of these AI is the chat. Training, the LL, the LLMs, is that they're the epitome of wisdom of the crowd. Ok, they're wisdom of the crowd thinking. That's what it is. It's the collective, all the average people in the world, and…”

“So you actually want to spend two thirds of your time trying to optimize things that you want to go deeper and better, and then a third trying, trying new things, and that's been shown in many, many ways to be roughly true.”

“Really, what you want to be able to do is to have a style, so to speak, to have something that's unpredictable, that's imitable, that you can't be imitated. And this, again, goes back to my other piece of advice about don't aim to be the best, aim to be the on…”

“You actually want to spend two-thirds of your time trying to optimize things that you want to go deeper and better, and then a third trying, trying new things, and that's been shown in many, many ways to be roughly true.”

“The amount of work to write a book is infinite. It just could go on and on, and that's true of almost any project in terms of perfecting. It's bottomless. So really, the only thing you control is your time. You say, I have this much time to give to it. I'm goi…”

“So, so that's what forgiveness is, is you accept the apology you're not going to get.”

“For the Amish, what they're trying to use, one of the reasons how, how, one of the ways that they decide which technology they're going to use or not use is they have a very clear idea of success. And so their goal is to have a lot of kids and to have every me…”

“We're being exposed to the superlative world. We're seeing lightning strikes, striking people. It's like things that we would never see. It's not ordinary, but we're seeing this extreme superlative version of the world, which does several things. One is it kin…”

“Spend Half as much money on your kids as you think you need to, and twice as much time, because that's what they're gonna value”

“Most of the inventors don't even have any idea what the technology really ultimately be used for.”

“So the internet is the largest copy machine in the world by nature. It's inherent in the thing. Anything that can be copied that touches it will be copied.”

“So sharing, just generally sharing, even though it's been going on for 20 years or more, I think we're still at the day one, day two of this.”

“That's still something where it's way beyond in terms of what most people are even imagining, but I think that's what we're going to be doing in the next 1020 to 30 years.”

“We have hundreds of motors that we don't even see in our home, And that's because they succeeded by becoming invisible. And that's sort of, I think the AI is going to become invisible.”

“I think AI and VR were both overly expected. I mean, they've been expected for such a long time that it's almost hard to, escaping from that is really hard. So, the kind of ones that aren't expected, well, the internet was actually not expected. There's almost…”

“When I was running a magazine called Co-Evolution and Whole Earth Review, I was the editor, and we kind of ran a little, maybe provocative kind of articles, and my goal was to piss off One fifth of the audience, but keep rotating. Make sure it wasn't the same.”