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20VC Prediction Didn’t hold up
Fabrice Grinda predicts UBS and Credit Suisse are too big to bail
“They're too big to bail. So it's not too big to fail. They're too big to bail. They're so big. They're bigger, the Swiss government does not have the underwriting power to underwrite it, and I could see them failing and bringing down Switzerland with them, and…”
Fabrice Grinda May 21, 2022 ▶ 42:54 Fabrice Grinda: The First Person to Predict the Collapse of Credit Suisse? | 20VC #886 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Opinion
Grinda: Switzerland Is a House of Cards That Could Default
“Last year, as I was thinking through what are safe havens for cash, I was thinking of putting a lot of my cash in Swiss francs in Switzerland. And I did an analysis, and I realized, and I actually came to the conclusion that it's the opposite. I think Switzerl…”
Fabrice Grinda May 9, 2022 ▶ 35:15 20VC: WTF Is Going On? 3 Outcomes for What Could Happen From Here; What Needs to Happen To Avoid Recession? Why Stagnation is Most Likely and What This Means for Startups and Venture & Why Catastrophe is More Likely Than Ever and Switzerland Could Be a "H
20VC Opinion
Grinda: UBS and Credit Suisse Are Too Big for Switzerland to Bail Out
“They're too big to bail. So it's not too big to fail. They're too big to bail. They're so big, the Swiss government does not have the underwriting power to underwrite it. And I could see them failing and bringing down Switzerland with them.”
Fabrice Grinda May 9, 2022 ▶ 36:44 20VC: WTF Is Going On? 3 Outcomes for What Could Happen From Here; What Needs to Happen To Avoid Recession? Why Stagnation is Most Likely and What This Means for Startups and Venture & Why Catastrophe is More Likely Than Ever and Switzerland Could Be a "H
20VC Opinion
Grinda: Anduril products are extraordinarily high cost and not battle-tested
“Endural, and look, I'm an investor in Endural. The problem is their cost is extraordinarily high, and so the way you measure this is cost per kill, and they're not battle-tested.”
Fabrice Grinda May 1, 2025 ▶ 1:12:42 What Does it Take to Be Good at Series A and B Today? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Opinion
Grinda: Tech remains in the middle of an AI bubble
“We're still in the middle of an AI bubble. If you look at like the amount of money that's going into AI versus every other category in terms of valuations raised, the amount, the number of companies getting funded.”
Fabrice Grinda May 1, 2025 ▶ 1:06 What Does it Take to Be Good at Series A and B Today? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Disclosure
Grinda: FJ Labs maintains 30% IRR by selling winners early
“I want to say the cheat code I use for IR, why I still can get 30% IR today, is the virtue of being diversified means I own two, one to three percent of any of the companies, and so what I've been doing is getting secondaries on the way up. So, I've been doing…”
Fabrice Grinda May 1, 2025 ▶ 16:02 What Does it Take to Be Good at Series A and B Today? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Grinda: US lacks manufacturing capacity and would lose a war with China
“Right now, we don't have the manufacturing capacity. We would lose a war with China right now.”
Fabrice Grinda May 1, 2025 ▶ 1:13:30 What Does it Take to Be Good at Series A and B Today? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Fabrice Grinda auto-signed all investment legal documents unread for 15 years
“For 15, actually, probably for 15 years, every document that was ever sent to me, legal document that was sent to me, SPA, Anything like companies selling, et cetera. I auto signed, or my, actually, my virtual assistant in the Philippines, who had my signature…”
Fabrice Grinda May 21, 2022 ▶ 3:20 Fabrice Grinda: The First Person to Predict the Collapse of Credit Suisse? | 20VC #886 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Opinion
Fabrice Grinda calls the degrowth movement bullshit, championing tech productivity instead
“The degrowth movement is bullshit, like no one wants to go back to being a farmer and having a life expectancy of 29, starving multiple times a year, so the only way we solve the problem is actually through technology-led productivity growth and deflation”
Fabrice Grinda May 21, 2022 ▶ 37:48 Fabrice Grinda: The First Person to Predict the Collapse of Credit Suisse? | 20VC #886 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Disclosure
Grinda Auto-Signed All Angel Investment Legal Documents Without Reading Them
“Every document that was ever sent to me, legal document that was sent to me, SPA, anything like company selling, et cetera, I auto-signed, or actually my virtual assistant in the Philippines who had my signature would auto-sign for me all the docs that I never…”
Fabrice Grinda May 9, 2022 ▶ 5:59 20VC: WTF Is Going On? 3 Outcomes for What Could Happen From Here; What Needs to Happen To Avoid Recession? Why Stagnation is Most Likely and What This Means for Startups and Venture & Why Catastrophe is More Likely Than Ever and Switzerland Could Be a "H
20VC Opinion
Grinda: Crypto Is a Risk Asset, Not an Inflation Hedge
“Crypto is not An inflation hedge , it's still a risk asset”
Fabrice Grinda May 9, 2022 ▶ 13:19 20VC: WTF Is Going On? 3 Outcomes for What Could Happen From Here; What Needs to Happen To Avoid Recession? Why Stagnation is Most Likely and What This Means for Startups and Venture & Why Catastrophe is More Likely Than Ever and Switzerland Could Be a "H
20VC Opinion
Grinda Rejects Degrowth, Citing Technology-Led Productivity as the Sole Solution
“The degrowth movement is bullshit. Like, no one wants to go back to being a farmer and having a life expectancy of 29, starving multiple times a year. The only way we solve the problem is actually through technology-led productivity growth and deflation, and t…”
Fabrice Grinda May 9, 2022 ▶ 32:38 20VC: WTF Is Going On? 3 Outcomes for What Could Happen From Here; What Needs to Happen To Avoid Recession? Why Stagnation is Most Likely and What This Means for Startups and Venture & Why Catastrophe is More Likely Than Ever and Switzerland Could Be a "H
Grinda: Employer reference checks on startup founders are a negative signal
“We tried doing reference checks on founders and realized that they were a negative signal. Some of the very best founders were horrible employees. They would talk back to their bosses. They would work on their startup at their job. They had the worst reference…”
Fabrice Grinda Jan 24, 2022 ▶ 47:25 Fabrice Grinda – Canvassing Seed Stage Marketplaces at FJ Labs, Venture is Eating the Investment World 4 (Capital Allocators, EP.232)
20VC Insight
Grinda: Best time to invest in VC, but avoid all-AI funds
“I think it's the best time to invest, but the, in a way, investing in venture right now is contrarian, and I think you should be investing in funds That are not going after the lovingy, you know, AI, all AI, all the time category.”
Fabrice Grinda May 1, 2025 ▶ 1:53 What Does it Take to Be Good at Series A and B Today? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Grinda: Investors underestimate the risk of total loss in fast-scaling AI
“I feel people are underestimating the risk of zeros, even though something can go from zero to a hundred million AR very quickly, and usually they're priced accordingly. And I, you know, I care about, like, what am I, what returns, what do you need to underwri…”
Fabrice Grinda May 1, 2025 ▶ 9:04 What Does it Take to Be Good at Series A and B Today? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Opinion
Grinda: AI disruption benefits startup marketplace incumbents over legacy giants
“The AI disruption is actually benefiting startup incumbents, because they have the data modes, and so it doesn't benefit eBay, you know, because they're slow and big, but it benefits, you know, an incumbent startup that has already liquidity, that is the most …”
Fabrice Grinda May 1, 2025 ▶ 39:15 What Does it Take to Be Good at Series A and B Today? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Grinda: OpenAI and horizontal LLMs will dominate most AI model categories
“At the fundamental LLM level, I think the horizontal, you know, GPT may just win most categories. The same way that Google won search reasonably read large, except maybe kayak for travel. I suspect, I think OpenAI and JGPD win most of the LLM type categories”
Fabrice Grinda May 1, 2025 ▶ 41:39 What Does it Take to Be Good at Series A and B Today? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Grinda: AI price competition will destroy investor value before winners emerge
“While I do think eventually a winner to emerge and they'll have the proper pricing power, and I do think in the long run you're able to extract value when you create value, there may be a lot of investor value destruction on the way up because people are compe…”
Fabrice Grinda May 1, 2025 ▶ 56:04 What Does it Take to Be Good at Series A and B Today? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Grinda: Ukraine could become the manufacturing hub for defense technology
“I'm investing a lot actually in Ukrainian defense startups, because I think my vision is that Ukraine could become the manufacturing hub for defense.”
Fabrice Grinda May 1, 2025 ▶ 1:12:31 What Does it Take to Be Good at Series A and B Today? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
FJ Labs decides on startup investments after a single one-hour meeting
“And so I created a setup for a process for deciding in a one hour meeting if I would invest or not in a startup. And that's essentially one that we still use to this day, you know, with refinement over time.”
Fabrice Grinda May 21, 2022 ▶ 2:15 Fabrice Grinda: The First Person to Predict the Collapse of Credit Suisse? | 20VC #886 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Fabrice Grinda argues technological progress always outperforms short-term macroeconomic cycles
“History trumps macro, right? Like, the last 200 years of I've been a history of technological progress that has led and innovation that has led improvements in the human condition. And over the last 200 years, despite world wars, the great depression... If you…”
Fabrice Grinda May 21, 2022 ▶ 21:49 Fabrice Grinda: The First Person to Predict the Collapse of Credit Suisse? | 20VC #886 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Fabrice Grinda explains why $20 billion mega-funds cannot effectively write $10M checks
“If you're deploying twenty billion, You really don't get out of bed and write a ten million dollar a check very often because it just doesn't move the needle. Like there's no, you're not deploying enough capital. It's like a return of capital that you can make…”
Fabrice Grinda May 21, 2022 ▶ 26:25 Fabrice Grinda: The First Person to Predict the Collapse of Credit Suisse? | 20VC #886 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Invest if passing means lifelong regret over a founder, says Fabrice Grinda
“When you start the statement with, this is a foundational generational company, and the founder is extraordinary, and I'm going to regret this decision the rest of your life. You are. Do not, if you write that, make the investment.”
Fabrice Grinda May 21, 2022 ▶ 59:22 Fabrice Grinda: The First Person to Predict the Collapse of Credit Suisse? | 20VC #886 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Disclosure
Fabrice Grinda discloses a 45% realized annual IRR across 24 years
“In the last 24 years, and I've realized I are 45% a year. And then in the unrealized, we have like 650 companies or so, it's like also 45% implied IRR.”
Fabrice Grinda May 21, 2022 ▶ 1:01:55 Fabrice Grinda: The First Person to Predict the Collapse of Credit Suisse? | 20VC #886 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Not checkable as stated
Grinda Assigns 60% Chance to Macroeconomic Stagnation, 20% to Severe Downturn
“Today, in my probabilistic terms, I'd say there's a 20% scenario that we probability that we end up with a optimistic outcome from where we are, and I can explain why. Maybe a 60% scenario of what I call the Great stagnation, and another 20% scenario of, like,…”
Fabrice Grinda May 9, 2022 ▶ 11:43 20VC: WTF Is Going On? 3 Outcomes for What Could Happen From Here; What Needs to Happen To Avoid Recession? Why Stagnation is Most Likely and What This Means for Startups and Venture & Why Catastrophe is More Likely Than Ever and Switzerland Could Be a "H
20VC Insight
Grinda: Early-Stage VCs Should Focus on Macroeconomic Conditions 7-10 Years Out
“As an early stage investor, like pre-C, seed, and A, it doesn't really impact me too much because the macro I care about is the macro is seven, 10 years in the future.”
Fabrice Grinda May 9, 2022 ▶ 21:19 20VC: WTF Is Going On? 3 Outcomes for What Could Happen From Here; What Needs to Happen To Avoid Recession? Why Stagnation is Most Likely and What This Means for Startups and Venture & Why Catastrophe is More Likely Than Ever and Switzerland Could Be a "H
20VC Prediction Held up
Grinda: Major Late-Stage Startup Repricing Coming Within 12 Months
“Where I'm most excited about opportunities to deploy a lot of capital at good prices in the coming 12 months, yes, it is the B and beyond, or C and beyond, because I think we're going to see major repricing.”
Fabrice Grinda May 9, 2022 ▶ 44:34 20VC: WTF Is Going On? 3 Outcomes for What Could Happen From Here; What Needs to Happen To Avoid Recession? Why Stagnation is Most Likely and What This Means for Startups and Venture & Why Catastrophe is More Likely Than Ever and Switzerland Could Be a "H
Grinda: Auto-signed angel legal documents to exit without reading them
“And in fact, I wouldn't even read any of the legal docs they ever sent me. I auto signed or docu signed every single doc they sent me from the investment docs all the way to the exit without even reading them.”
Fabrice Grinda Jan 24, 2022 ▶ 30:28 Fabrice Grinda – Canvassing Seed Stage Marketplaces at FJ Labs, Venture is Eating the Investment World 4 (Capital Allocators, EP.232)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Supported
Grinda: AngelList study proves high-volume qualified investing increases fund IRR
“AngelList did a study of all of their different mini funds on AngelList to see which ones were the most successful. And their ultimate conclusion was The more qualified deals, and of course we need to define what qualified means, you invest in, the higher your…”
Fabrice Grinda Jan 24, 2022 ▶ 37:52 Fabrice Grinda – Canvassing Seed Stage Marketplaces at FJ Labs, Venture is Eating the Investment World 4 (Capital Allocators, EP.232)
Grinda: FJ Labs is too diversified to ever be a 10x fund
“We will never be a 10 X fund just because we're too diversified for that. Any one fund will never be top to sell.”
Fabrice Grinda Jan 24, 2022 ▶ 39:21 Fabrice Grinda – Canvassing Seed Stage Marketplaces at FJ Labs, Venture is Eating the Investment World 4 (Capital Allocators, EP.232)
Grinda: FJ Labs blindly backs previous successful founders in their next ventures
“And number three, founders we backed in the past that have done well for us, we will back them blindly in whatever they do next.”
Fabrice Grinda Jan 24, 2022 ▶ 41:13 Fabrice Grinda – Canvassing Seed Stage Marketplaces at FJ Labs, Venture is Eating the Investment World 4 (Capital Allocators, EP.232)
Grinda: Concentrating on one Uber early beats high-volume venture models
“If you find Uber or Airbnb early, if that's all you do for the vast decade, you're probably going to do better than with my approach.”
Fabrice Grinda Jan 24, 2022 ▶ 44:46 Fabrice Grinda – Canvassing Seed Stage Marketplaces at FJ Labs, Venture is Eating the Investment World 4 (Capital Allocators, EP.232)
Grinda: FJ Labs restricts VC introductions to 5th-35th percentile portfolio companies
“Now, we don't do that for all of them. We do it typically for the fifth to 35th percentile companies in the portfolio. The top five percent usually don't need us, and the bottom 50th percentile will tell them where they send, will tell them what we think they …”
Fabrice Grinda Jan 24, 2022 ▶ 50:22 Fabrice Grinda – Canvassing Seed Stage Marketplaces at FJ Labs, Venture is Eating the Investment World 4 (Capital Allocators, EP.232)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Open · timeframe Jan 2032
Grinda: Psychedelics will follow cannabis path to legalization in 2020s
“We went from something that was criminalized to then being medicalized, to then decriminalized, to then legalized, and that led to the creation of countless of companies in the category. I think the same thing is going to happen with psilocybin, with ketamine,…”
Fabrice Grinda Jan 24, 2022 ▶ 1:00:59 Fabrice Grinda – Canvassing Seed Stage Marketplaces at FJ Labs, Venture is Eating the Investment World 4 (Capital Allocators, EP.232)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Grinda: Crypto and Web3 will become mainstream after bubble bursts
“So we're seeing an entire reinvention of finance, and frankly, of the web, in a decentralized way. And that's going to go from fringe to mainstream, despite the fact that there are bubbles in that market right now. The bubble will burst, but the same thing tha…”
Fabrice Grinda Jan 24, 2022 ▶ 1:02:25 Fabrice Grinda – Canvassing Seed Stage Marketplaces at FJ Labs, Venture is Eating the Investment World 4 (Capital Allocators, EP.232)
20VC Insight
Grinda: Moats are built through execution, not evaluated at initial investment
“And so the barrier to entry, in fact, if we look at how we select companies to invest in, and there's a bunch of criteria barriers to entry is not one of them because the barriers to entry or something you build, By virtue of executing, you build a brand, you …”
Fabrice Grinda Sep 16, 2015 ▶ 13:28 20 VC 072: Super Angel, Fabrice Grinda: The Future of Startup Investing
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Grinda claims a 70-80% IRR and 7x average return across 210 startups
“Over the years, I've invested, as I said, around the 210 startups. We've actually made money in over 50% of the exits. On average today, we've done about seven acts and over 70 or 80% of IRR.”
Fabrice Grinda Sep 16, 2015 ▶ 23:07 20 VC 072: Super Angel, Fabrice Grinda: The Future of Startup Investing
20VC Disclosure
Grinda discloses target entry valuations: $4M pre-seed, $10M seed, $20M Series A
“I'm coming in at Four pre at pre-seed, at 10 pre at seed, and at 20 pre at A's, and I feel very comfortable that in 10 years, these will be much, much larger with valid business models, and we less risk of disruption.”
Fabrice Grinda May 1, 2025 ▶ 11:27 What Does it Take to Be Good at Series A and B Today? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Opinion
Grinda: Scaling $100M to $200M in US is easier than $0-100M abroad
“If you're at a hundred million revenues, it's easier to go from a hundred to 200 in the US than zero to a hundred anywhere else, and that's true at a billion.”
Fabrice Grinda May 1, 2025 ▶ 1:17:36 What Does it Take to Be Good at Series A and B Today? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Disclosure
Grinda: 60% of personal net worth allocated to early-stage startups
“My personal net worth is still 60%, basically early stage startups, because they can grow very dramatically.”
Fabrice Grinda Jun 29, 2022 ▶ 22:56 20VC: The Memo: Bill Gurley, Doug Leone, Keith Rabois; Investing Lessons from Prior Busts, How Their Investor Psychology Changed, What Can Be Applied To Today's Market
20VC Opinion
Fabrice Grinda argues crypto is a risk asset, not an inflation hedge
“This goes to show that crypto is not an inflation hedge. It's still a risk asset have been marked down dramatically.”
Fabrice Grinda May 21, 2022 ▶ 12:33 Fabrice Grinda: The First Person to Predict the Collapse of Credit Suisse? | 20VC #886 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Partly supported
Fabrice Grinda notes annual US seed deals expanded from 5,000 to 20,000
“There used to be 5000 seed funded startups per year in the U.S. That would raise 500 K or more. And last two years, it was almost 20,000. So we tripled, we more than tripled, I mean, it was over 15,000. It was between 15 and 20,000. So we tripled or quadrupled…”
Fabrice Grinda May 21, 2022 ▶ 24:43 Fabrice Grinda: The First Person to Predict the Collapse of Credit Suisse? | 20VC #886 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Disclosure
Fabrice Grinda keeps 60% of his personal net worth in early-stage startups
“My asset allocation, my personal net worth is still 60% basically early stage startups”
Fabrice Grinda May 21, 2022 ▶ 36:24 Fabrice Grinda: The First Person to Predict the Collapse of Credit Suisse? | 20VC #886 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Held up
Fabrice Grinda predicts VC funds will see fewer exits and lower IRRs
“It means we have fewer exits in the next few years. It means the valuations at which these exits happen are lower which means that the IR we get are lower”
Fabrice Grinda May 21, 2022 ▶ 37:11 Fabrice Grinda: The First Person to Predict the Collapse of Credit Suisse? | 20VC #886 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Disclosure
FJ Labs made zero Series C+ investments in 2021 due to pricing
“I mean, last year we didn't do a single deal C and beyond, just because prices are too high.”
Fabrice Grinda May 21, 2022 ▶ 50:51 Fabrice Grinda: The First Person to Predict the Collapse of Credit Suisse? | 20VC #886 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Prediction Held up
Fabrice Grinda predicts major Series B and C repricing within 12 months
“Where I'm most excited about opportunities to deploy a lot of capital at good prices in the coming 12 months. Yes, it is the B and beyond or C and beyond, because I think we're going to see major repricing”
Fabrice Grinda May 21, 2022 ▶ 53:28 Fabrice Grinda: The First Person to Predict the Collapse of Credit Suisse? | 20VC #886 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Partly supported
Grinda: US Seed-Funded Startups Surged to 15,000-20,000 Annually in 2020-2021
“There used to be 5000 seed-funded startups per year in the U.S. That would raise 500 K or more, and last two years, it was over 15,000. It was between 15 and 20,000.”
Fabrice Grinda May 9, 2022 ▶ 22:51 20VC: WTF Is Going On? 3 Outcomes for What Could Happen From Here; What Needs to Happen To Avoid Recession? Why Stagnation is Most Likely and What This Means for Startups and Venture & Why Catastrophe is More Likely Than Ever and Switzerland Could Be a "H
20VC Prediction Held up
Grinda: Insight Partners Will Not Disrupt Series A and B Venture Markets
“I don't think they're going to screw up the A and B market and asset class because they're going to play. It's not going to be the bread and butter.”
Fabrice Grinda May 9, 2022 ▶ 25:03 20VC: WTF Is Going On? 3 Outcomes for What Could Happen From Here; What Needs to Happen To Avoid Recession? Why Stagnation is Most Likely and What This Means for Startups and Venture & Why Catastrophe is More Likely Than Ever and Switzerland Could Be a "H
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