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Jessica Lessin

Founder & CEO, The Information. On 3 shows, 146 appearances. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.

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Jessica Lessin is the founder and CEO of The Information, a subscription-based technology news publication launched in 2013. Prior to founding the company, she spent eight years reporting on the technology industry for The Wall Street Journal.

3shows
146appearances
594statements
206resolved
162supported
14contradicted
79%fully supported
26said about them ↓

Everything Jessica Lessin said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.

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Lessin: Trial revealed Altman paid Brockman $10M from family office
“It was revealed that Altman, because it was a nonprofit back then, was paid Greg ten million dollars out of his, like, own family office and kept it from Elon, and so all these sort of alliances were being formed beneath the surface, and it just seemed like a …”
Jessica Lessin May 8, 2026 ▶ 41:23 Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models · More or Less Podcast
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Jessica Lessin: Prominent media lists are driven by corporate sponsorship
“So it's not just clicks though. The business interests that circulate these lists are intense. And this is how I know it. Because I was wandering the streets of Davos, Switzerland, as one does with friends of mine. And all of a sudden they look at their watch …”
Jessica Lessin Sep 4, 2026 ▶ 38:47 AI Agents Are Going Rogue. Should We Be Worried? │Claude vs. Grok, Tesla vs Waymo, Google vs Canva · More or Less Podcast
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Eric Schmidt invested in Anthropic through a relationship with Dario Amodei's wife
“Her romantic turned business relationship with Eric Schmidt that led to the, his investment in Danthropic to crossing paths briefly with Jeffrey Epstein in terms of pitching him on her company.”
Jessica Lessin Aug 21, 2026 ▶ 25:22 OpenAI Can’t Hold a Lead, Stripe Buys OpenRouter & AI Hits a Wall · More or Less Podcast
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Lessin: Tech Execs Privately Reject the US-China AI War Narrative
“In Washington tech execs go to Washington to say, we have to be trying to an AI at all costs privately, or even semi privately. The exact same people say, obviously the U S and China are going to both be leaders at AI. They sort of reject that the war narrativ…”
Jessica Lessin Jul 31, 2026 ▶ 29:52 The Lilian Weng Saga, Mental Health Essay Then OpenAI | Meta's AI Ad, China Cracks DUV
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Jessica Lessin: Stripe is attempting to acquire PayPal
“The Information has a big Stripe financial scoop that is worth discussing because. We have not discussed Stripe in a while and it is trying to buy PayPal.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 24, 2026 ▶ 37:45 Stripe Is Trying To Buy PayPal For $150b | OpenAI Cyber Incident, Frontier Model Economics, Peptides · More or Less Podcast
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Lessin: Stripe Is Teaming Up With Advent for PayPal Bid
“So what they're doing for this PayPal takeover offer, which, you know, is, is just that, like, no sign that any deal is done, and I'm sure other bidders will emerge and whatever, but they're teaming up with Advent, which is a private equity firm,”
Jessica Lessin Jul 24, 2026 ▶ 43:19 Stripe Is Trying To Buy PayPal For $150b | OpenAI Cyber Incident, Frontier Model Economics, Peptides · More or Less Podcast
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Jessica Lessin: Anthropic will go public by September
“Anthropic will go public. I would be shocked if they're not public in September.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 2:55 Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
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Jessica Lessin: Anthropic is profitable
“But anthropic is profitable.”
Jessica Lessin Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 3:42 Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
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Lessin: Polymarket directed influencers to fake trades and earnings
“But Polymarket has been directing influencers to make fake videos about fake trades and reporting fake earnings for their influencer program.”
Jessica Lessin Jun 26, 2026 ▶ 21:39 Chinese AI Model GLM 5.2 Beating Frontier Models | Meta Glasses, Polymarket Scandal, AI Talent War · More or Less Podcast
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Most consumers won't need a $20 per month personal AI agent
“And I actually think that it's very possible we live in a world where over the next 10 years, most people don't need to be paying 20 dollars a month for a personal agent that can do all these amazing things.”
Jessica Lessin May 29, 2026 ▶ 24:26 Normal People Don't Want AI Agents (And Silicon Valley Can't Accept It) · More or Less Podcast
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Lessin: OpenAI is preparing to confidentially file for an IPO soon
“Breaking news from the information and other outlets is that OpenAI confidentially filing soon.”
Jessica Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 2:12 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
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Lessin: Agentic Google Search is the nail in SEO's coffin
“What does everyone think about the Google search going agentic? Like, this is the nail in the coffin of SEO.”
Jessica Lessin May 22, 2026 ▶ 16:18 Google I/O Just Killed SEO? Agentic Search, Universal Cart, and the New Web · More or Less Podcast
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Lessin: Meta has been logging employee keystrokes to train internal AI
“This is a little bit old, but Meta has been keystroke logging employees to train AI, their AI, not so popular.”
Jessica Lessin May 15, 2026 ▶ 23:27 Google's AI-First Laptop, Meta's Spy Games, AI Monks in Middle America · More or Less Podcast
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Lessin: Musk and SpaceX Dedicated 100% of First Colossus Project to Anthropic
“We have seen perhaps the strangest AI compute deal to date, which is Anthropic Colossus. So SpaceX, Elon Musk. Have given over their first Colossus project. 100%. Not like 40%.”
Jessica Lessin May 8, 2026 ▶ 5:05 Why the Met Gala Hates Tech, Elon vs OpenAI Drama, and the Rise of Chinese AI Models · More or Less Podcast
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Lessin: Leaked OpenAI memo targeted Anthropic's ARR math and compute investment
“There was a memo that was leaked from OpenAI, an OpenAI memo that was leaked. I think it was in OpenAI's interest for this memo to be out there. I also think it was written in a way where they wanted it to be out there, where they came after Anthropic. Both fo…”
Jessica Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 27:05 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
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Lessin: Rogue AI agent triggered major security alert at Meta
“A rogue AI agent triggered a major security alert at Meta by taking action without approval that led to exposure of sensitive information and user data to Meta employees who could not authorize it.”
Jessica Lessin Mar 20, 2026 ▶ 30:15 Nvidia’s GTC Was “Taylor Swift for Straight Men” (Apple, OpenAI, and OpenClaw News) · More or Less Podcast
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Jess Lessin: Saudi PIF is dry of capital, but the UAE is not
“Specifically, PIF is dry. PIF. But the UAE is not dry.”
Jessica Lessin Feb 27, 2026 ▶ 10:14 Apple, OpenAI & Why Nobody Makes Money in AI | The SaaS Apocalypse · More or Less Podcast
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Lessin: Bay Area software engineer headcount will drop to 300,000
“Well, so I will go down, in three years, I'll go down to 300,000, and then I think it probably drops.”
Jessica Lessin Feb 20, 2026 ▶ 31:04 OpenClaw vs Meta vs OpenAI: The Personal Agent Wars Heat Up · More or Less Podcast
Jessica Lessin: xAI is shaky with model and infrastructure problems
“Things seem pretty shaky over there. They've got infrastructure problems, they've got model problems, and now they're losing people.”
Jessica Lessin Feb 13, 2026 ▶ 45:27 Why OpenAI Can't Win The Decentralized AI Future (OpenClaw, Apple's Win, X.AI Exodus) · More or Less Podcast
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Lessin: China Instructed Tech Industry Not to Buy Nvidia H200 Chips
“Overnight breaking from the information China has said to its tech industry, no H 200. You may not buy H 200.”
Jessica Lessin Jan 9, 2026 ▶ 6:39 Founders Beware: Illiquid Valuations vs. Real‑World Taxes · More or Less Podcast
Lessin: 50 percent chance Altman's Code Red memo is strategic misdirection
“I kind of think there's a 50% chance Sam Altman wrote that memo so people would not know their actual strategy.”
Jessica Lessin Dec 5, 2025 ▶ 31:53 Code Red, Bitcoin Costs, AWS Resurgence, and Waymo Safety (Not About AI... ish) · More or Less Podcast
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Lessin predicts neither the US nor China will win the AI race
“It's also completely true that the U.S. And China are, one is not gonna best the other in this war. I just don't, I, there's just no doubt.”
Jessica Lessin Nov 28, 2025 ▶ 14:09 OpenAI vs Google vs Meta: Business Model War · More or Less Podcast
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Jessica Lessin: Meta is in serious talks to buy Google TPUs
“One, Meta is considering, and in very serious talks, over a billions of dollars, spending billions of dollars on TPUs in a future deal”
Jessica Lessin Nov 28, 2025 ▶ 25:31 OpenAI vs Google vs Meta: Business Model War · More or Less Podcast
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Jessica Lessin: Consumer subscriptions won't be OpenAI's business
“Now open AI is getting big traction on the business side too, but consumer subscriptions are not going to be the business.”
Jessica Lessin Nov 21, 2025 ▶ 28:59 Google Just Won AI, TikTok’s “Self-Control Badges”, ChatGPT Enters Group Chats · More or Less Podcast

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The other half of the tape: Jessica Lessin's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 23 times in 13 episodes across the shows. 3 statements on the record name them. every mention, with the transcript →

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Statements about Jessica Lessin, by other people (3)

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Sam Lessin predicts print media is coming back
“I'm just saying, like, it's time for a return to the past in, in lots of things, and I think that print is coming back, and I think I don't want you, my wife, as someone I love and respect to miss the swerve.”
Sam Lessin Sep 19, 2025 ▶ 51:08 #117 TikTok’s New Owner and Hiring a US CEO? · More or Less Podcast
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Sam Lessin: Subscription News Orgs Won't Be Trusted Mass-Distribution Sources
“I don't, so I don't think it's going to be news orgs as much as I adore my wife. And I'll tell you why. I think it's a business model problem. So the news orgs have moved into a subscription model, which is correct for them. Right. And if you look at kind of a…”
Sam Lessin Oct 13, 2023 ▶ 29:37 #18: Why This Week Changed Social Media Forever · More or Less Podcast
Ben Smith: Reporters landing major scoops rely on 'news luck'
“Don't you think, though, that as a reporter, there's something like, there's a kind of news, my only real superstition, that there's a kind of news luck, and some people have it. That was that I had it. Like, sometimes you just wind up in a room. Somebody invi…”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 8:53 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast

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