Ben Smith

Co-Founder, Semafor · 1 appearance on the record.

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Ben Smith is a prominent media executive and journalist. He is a co-founder of the news organization Semafor.

12statements → 5claims → 2claims resolved → 3.83/5average certainty → 2.92/5average debate potential → ≈4.0/5argument clarity, estimated →

1 supported 0 partly supported 1 contradicted 1 not yet assessed 2 not checkable as stated how the 5 claims stand · each chip opens the sources

3 predictions · 2 assertions · 1 opinion · 5 insights · 1 disclosure · every statement was checked. The predictions and assertions are the 5 claims: statements the public record can support or contradict. 2 are resolved, 1 is not yet assessed, and 2 name no date, number or outcome precise enough to check. Everything else (opinions, insights, what ifs, disclosures) can never be settled by the record, so it carries no assessment.

The record, in short

What the tape says about how Ben argues and how the claims held up. Everything they said, and everything said about them, is in the tabs below.

Their most notable supported claim

Prediction Held up
Ben Smith: The Atlantic's Signal chat scoop will not win a Pulitzer
“No, and Pulitzer only goes to things that look like newspaper articles from the 19 seventies.”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 22:43 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast

Their most notable contradicted claim

Assertion Contradicted
Ben Smith: Pentagon advised Trump administration officials to use Signal
“And in fact, they had been told by the Pentagon they should be using Signal.”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 14:38 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast

How they sound: not measured why? →

We measure speaking style by listening to the audio itself, and a fair number needs at least 2,000 words from one person on tape we have measured. There is too little of Ben Smith on measured tape to publish a rate. This says nothing about how they speak.

Everything Ben Smith said on More or Less that made the record, most notable first. Filter by type, assessment or year in the ledger →

Opinion
Ben Smith: Signal leak is the first massive breach in Trump's narrative
“Trump has had this remarkable three months of, and I think we looked at, I'm not sure we'll say that he got a lot done. I think the jury is very, very much out on like, wait, what exactly didn't get held up in court and what happened, but of absolutely dominat…”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 9:19 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Contradicted
Ben Smith: Pentagon advised Trump administration officials to use Signal
“And in fact, they had been told by the Pentagon they should be using Signal.”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 14:38 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Ben Smith: Pete Hegseth will survive Signal leak; Trump team blames Waltz
“Nobody's, I think the Trump people's view is you can't start throwing people overboard, so I think no. And in fact, they seem to be madder at Mike Waltz that he had Jeffrey Goldberg's number in his phone than they are mad at Pete Hegseth.”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 16:18 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast
Insight
Ben Smith: Media startups winning a Pulitzer guarantees imminent layoffs
“So the, my thesis about Pulitzers is that when a new media company wins a Pulitzer, you can just set the clock on layoffs.”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 23:07 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Open · timeframe Nov 2026
Ben Smith: House Democrats will convene corruption committees targeting Big Tech CEOs
“If the Democrats take the House, we're talking in 20 months, there will be a corruption committee convened, which will have Mark Zuckerberg, Tim Cook, Sundar Pichai, and whoever talking in great detail, but every penny that was directed, and, you know, and I t…”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 35:47 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Ben Smith: Trump administration is not easing Big Tech antitrust enforcement
“If there's one thing that Trump is not doing, it's laying off the antitrust stuff.”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 39:26 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast
Insight
Ben Smith: AI products built in four hours are completely indefensible businesses
“Also, right, I thought for two seconds, oh yeah, we should charge this as a product. And it's like, well, actually, if I built this in four hours, that's like not defensible. That is the least defensible thing in the world.”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 53:33 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast
Insight
Ben Smith: Original reporting is safe from AI, but writing is vulnerable
“In journalism, there's sort of, at one end is gathering facts that are not on the internet, and putting them on the internet, and then there's a lot of other things, writing and producing in the middle, and at the other end is connecting with, is a human being…”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 57:13 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast
Insight
Ben Smith: Silicon Valley wrongly thinks journalists are obsessed with clicks
“This is actually like a common Silicon Valley misconception that we are like obsessed with clicks as opposed to interested in information.”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 13:01 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast
Prediction Held up
Ben Smith: The Atlantic's Signal chat scoop will not win a Pulitzer
“No, and Pulitzer only goes to things that look like newspaper articles from the 19 seventies.”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 22:43 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast
Disclosure
Ben Smith: Semafor staff must build their own AI tools, not developers
“I'm not letting them ask Our developers to help them build AI tools. Like you can really in Google app script without knowing anything about, I mean, you can really like vibe code yourself some nice tools”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 51:47 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast
Insight
Ben Smith: Reporters landing major scoops rely on 'news luck'
“Don't you think, though, that as a reporter, there's something like, there's a kind of news, my only real superstition, that there's a kind of news luck, and some people have it. That was that I had it. Like, sometimes you just wind up in a room. Somebody invi…”
Ben Smith Mar 28, 2025 ▶ 8:53 The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 · More or Less Podcast

Appearances (1)

EpisodeDateSpeaking time
The Signal Scandal & DOGE Drama! (with Ben Smith and Nicholas Carlson) | More or Less #92 Mar 28, 2025 14m
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