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Sam Lessin

Founding Partner, Slow Ventures. On 5 shows, 149 appearances. The Shows tab opens the full record on each.

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Sam Lessin is a founding partner at Slow Ventures and the former VP of Product Management at Facebook. Earlier in his career, he founded Drop.io, which Facebook acquired in 2010, and co-founded Fin Analytics.

5shows
149appearances
1,536statements
101resolved
64supported
23contradicted
63%fully supported
76said about them ↓

Everything Sam Lessin said on any show that made the record, most notable first. Each card names its show and opens the statement there.

Sam Lessin: Elon Musk and Sam Altman deliberately lie to motivate followers
“I think that Elon and Sam Altman lie, right? I think they say things they know to not be true, to Get people to do things. Right. And like, go on like with them. I just believe that from what I've seen, like, I think they're both way too smart to believe what …”
Sam Lessin Aug 22, 2025 ▶ 26:27 #113 GPT-5 Disappoints: The End of the AI Gold Rush? · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Open · timeframe Jul 2031
Sam Lessin: A novel virus will definitely be invented using AI
“The main fear is that a novel virus is, you know, invented, and then crispered, and we have serious problems. Which will definitely happen.”
Sam Lessin Jul 24, 2026 ▶ 16:35 Stripe Is Trying To Buy PayPal For $150b | OpenAI Cyber Incident, Frontier Model Economics, Peptides · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: AI labs seeking regulatory capture is cynical and anti-American
“I think it's very cynical for these companies to even try to switch the field of play from business to politics, right? Like, I think that's a very cynical, anti-American thing to do, to be like, okay, we're not going to play and compete in capitalism in a fai…”
Sam Lessin Jul 17, 2026 ▶ 21:49 Open Source AI Wins. Now Labs Are Running to Washington |Thinking Machines, Johnny Ive, Realtime API · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: AI eliminates Silicon Valley's advantage over New York finance workers
“I'd actually argue the average person in Silicon Valley is not as smart as like the average person in New York finance, right? They're not the best marketers. They're not the best at anything. The advantage in Silicon Valley was actually knowing how to write t…”
Sam Lessin Feb 27, 2026 ▶ 32:44 Apple, OpenAI & Why Nobody Makes Money in AI | The SaaS Apocalypse · More or Less Podcast
Lessin: The pro-Palestinian movement is winning the memetic information war
“Well, I think the most successful information warfare mimetic war right now is actually being won by, like, the pro-Palestinian crowd.”
Sam Lessin Sep 12, 2025 ▶ 49:14 #116 iPhone Air or Pro: Apple Ignores AI and Wins? · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: Backing founders with small children is generally a bad idea
“Parents of small children that is generally a bad idea. Not always, but generally a bad idea to back parents of small children.”
Sam Lessin Aug 8, 2025 ▶ 39:18 #111 Figma, OpenAI, Canva: Meme Stock IPOs in Silicon Valley · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin calls VCs the least sophisticated financiers on the planet
“I actually think that venture capitalists are probably the least sophisticated financiers, like on the planet. They just have hope, right? Like it's the only hopeful version of finance, right? Because it is like, you know, you're basically investing in people …”
Sam Lessin Aug 1, 2025 ▶ 18:33 #110 Meta's Billion-Dollar Hires: Bubble or Genius? · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: AI Is a Terrible Business with Almost No Monetizable Patterns
“I think the answer is almost none of them, and I think AI is a terrible business.”
Sam Lessin May 2, 2025 ▶ 18:36 How OpenAI Is Beating Google and Meta at Their Own Game · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Held up
Sam Lessin: People Will Kill Themselves and Others Because of AIs
“And like, at some point people are going to start killing themselves and each other because of AIs.”
Sam Lessin May 2, 2025 ▶ 43:58 How OpenAI Is Beating Google and Meta at Their Own Game · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: OpenAI obviously stole O'Reilly Safari books to train models
“I think I saw this thing about Tim O'Reilly saying like, it's pretty obvious that like they stole all the proprietary information from Safari and like their books to like build it. And it's like, it's total. I'm sure it's true. We all know that they stole ever…”
Sam Lessin Apr 4, 2025 ▶ 11:20 Can Tesla Survive? | More or Less #93 · More or Less Podcast
TBPN Opinion
Lessin: Whenever SoftBank buys, you sell; they are the worst investors
“Whenever SoftBank buys, you sell. Right. Like they are the worst investors in the history of the world. Right. And so it's just like, I've watched them crush so many companies by over capitalizing them by get, they're like, you know, they, it's hilarious. I lo…”
Sam Lessin Mar 12, 2025 ▶ 7:59 Sam Lessin on Meta, Artificial Intelligence, and Investing in Creators.
TBPN Insight
Lessin: VR Appeals Primarily to People Whose Real Lives Are Unfulfilling
“Like, I think the reality is like VR and like immersive experiences and all other realities are kind of great if your life sucks, right? Because then you're like, I'm gonna like live in a video game. But like, I think a lot of the problem with that type of stu…”
Sam Lessin Mar 12, 2025 ▶ 15:42 Sam Lessin on Meta, Artificial Intelligence, and Investing in Creators.
MORE OR LESS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: I didn't rug anything on Jelly Jelly
“I didn't rug anything.”
Sam Lessin Feb 7, 2025 ▶ 44:25 #85: The $250M Meme Coin Experiment · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: SoftBank is probably the worst investor in history
“Probably the worst investors in history. We've lost so much money in valuable companies because of SoftBank.”
Sam Lessin Jan 24, 2025 ▶ 14:37 #83: Trump Inauguration, Stargate, and the Meme Economy · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: Men dominate top leadership because they are higher-beta risk-takers
“Because men have nothing to lose and are worthless, and therefore are very high beta, right? Like, it's just like, you just get more, like, the dumbest people in the world are men, and some of the smartest are. The highest risk takers are men. Guess what? It t…”
Sam Lessin Jan 17, 2025 ▶ 16:03 #82: TikTok, Trade Wars & Tech 2.0 · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: Google has never had a high-performance culture
“Yes, Google has not had a high performance culture Like ever.”
Sam Lessin Aug 16, 2024 ▶ 3:41 #60: Body Futurism and Why Gen Z is Ditching Tech · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: Google invented tech's low-work engineer culture
“So like this idea that it's work from home, Google invented the low work engineer culture.”
Sam Lessin Aug 16, 2024 ▶ 4:28 #60: Body Futurism and Why Gen Z is Ditching Tech · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Open · timeframe Aug 2029
Lessin predicts OpenAI equity value is headed to zero
“Guys, I've been saying OpenAI zero the entire time. And I'm gonna keep saying it.”
Sam Lessin Aug 9, 2024 ▶ 24:30 #59: Google: Can it Outrun Regulation? · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sam Lessin: AI Startups Will Yield Zero Value and Go Bankrupt
“And so if you're someone like me, who's in the camp of this is a great disruptive Business technology, and zero dollars will accrue to startups, and they're all going bankrupt. I am now a zealot for no fucking way, right?”
Sam Lessin Apr 26, 2024 ▶ 32:41 #44: The $1B AI Girlfriend Market, the Tech Hedge Fund Fallout and Why VCs Can’t Quit AI · More or Less Podcast
Lessin: Most media business talent are 'B-players' and not talented
“You have the media business talent, which with a few exceptions, I have to say that because there are some people I like, they're bees, right? They're not very talented.”
Sam Lessin Apr 12, 2024 ▶ 25:46 #42: OpenAI, IP Theft and a New Incentive Structure for the Internet · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: The AI revolution is fake outside of narrow applications
“I don't think the AI, I think the AI revolution is fake. We all know this.”
Sam Lessin Mar 8, 2024 ▶ 2:36 #37: TikTok's Latest Crisis, Elon's Emails, AI Monopolies · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Didn’t hold up
Sam Lessin: Solana will surpass Ethereum in market capitalization
“I think Solana flips Ethereum.”
Sam Lessin Dec 22, 2023 ▶ 1:02:48 #28: What We Got Right and Wrong in ’23 and Calls for ’24 · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: Operational 'number twos' are always expendable
“Those number twos are always expendable. They have to be.”
Sam Lessin Oct 27, 2023 ▶ 27:04 #20: The New Founder Mindset: The End of the Product-Focused CEO · More or Less Podcast
Sam Lessin: LLMs have only two use cases: summarization and data laundering
“There really are two use cases. One is Dave's point, which is summarization, and the other is Brisk's case, which is data theft, right, and data laundering. Like, I agree those are the only use cases”
Sam Lessin Aug 18, 2023 ▶ 50:23 #10: You should kill your startup, What replaces globalization · More or Less Podcast

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The other half of the tape: Sam Lessin's own voice is left out of every number here. Other people bring the name up 67 times in 27 episodes across the shows. 9 statements on the record name them. every mention, with the transcript →

Who brings them up most Harry Stebbings 27John Coogan 10Dave Morin 7Matt Mazzeo 6Jason Lemkin 3Mike Maples 2Jordi Hays 2Will Quist 1

Statements about Sam Lessin, by other people (9)

Brit Morin: First AI to ingest personal health data wins superior moat
“However, whoever wins the like ingestion of all the data, though, first is going to have such a superior advantage unless you're Sam lesson and you think you can just export from one model to another, which I tried and it was very difficult.”
Brit Morin Jan 9, 2026 ▶ 49:40 Founders Beware: Illiquid Valuations vs. Real‑World Taxes · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Dave Morin: People will wear two smart rings within five years
“I think two, Sam. I think you've got, yeah, you've got health and probably AI interface. Seems like it's pretty clear gonna happen.”
Dave Morin Nov 14, 2025 ▶ 11:30 Apple’s iPhone Sock, Waymo's Bay Area Expansion, and AI Wearables · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Not checkable as stated
Brit Morin: US will ban Chinese e-commerce companies
“Especially when Chinese companies get banned, then what are you gonna do, Sam?”
Brit Morin Dec 20, 2024 ▶ 3:01 #78: 2024 Tech Company of the Year + 2025 Predictions · More or Less Podcast
MORE OR LESS Prediction Held up
Morin: Voice AI will reliably book restaurant reservations within five years
“Five years from now, you will, Sam.”
Dave Morin Dec 6, 2024 ▶ 46:10 #76: In a World with 99.99% Accurate AI… (feat. Aaron Levie) · More or Less Podcast
Morin: Body optimization protocols represent a new moral framework, not a fad
“This is not just a fad. This is, like, actually a new moral framework. Like, I think this is actually, like, a new moral framework.”
Dave Morin Aug 16, 2024 ▶ 35:31 #60: Body Futurism and Why Gen Z is Ditching Tech · More or Less Podcast
TBPN Opinion
Coogan: Lessin uses snarky posts to drive engagement
“Sam's the master of, like, throwing in some kind of, like, snarky little bit to his, like, screenshot essay just to kind of get people's hackles up, and that actually drives engagement, so good content marketing.”
John Coogan Nov 19, 2024 ▶ 2:23:03 Who's Getting Rich Off Ozempic? (e12)
MORE OR LESS Disclosure
Dave Morin: Sam Lessin and I launched a cryptocurrency meme coin
“We didn't buy any domain names, but we did launch a meme coin.”
Dave Morin Apr 4, 2025 ▶ 20:03 Can Tesla Survive? | More or Less #93 · More or Less Podcast
TBPN Assertion Supported
Rosenberg: Lessin rented a billboard declaring AI is not your moat
“He actually took out a physical billboard on the one-on-one like with all, like amongst all of these like advertisements for AI companies that says, AI is not your moat. Like love slow kind of thing.”
Seth Rosenberg Mar 17, 2025 ▶ 1:06 The GREAT VC AI DEBATE between Slow Ventures and Greylock Partners.
MORE OR LESS Disclosure
Dave Morin: We almost invested in the original Telegram TON token deal
“We were doing that original ton deal, Sam, and then it fell apart.”
Dave Morin Aug 30, 2024 ▶ 14:20 #62: Telegram, Free Speech and Its Limits · More or Less Podcast

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2025 13 mentions in 7 episodes 2 per episode
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2019 2 mentions in 2 episodes 1 per episode
2017 1 mention in 1 episode
2016 21 mentions in 4 episodes 5 per episode

One line per show, most statements first. The link opens Sam's full record on that show: the calibration, argument clarity, speaking style and every statement made there.

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MORE OR LESSLEDGER Founding Partner, Slow Ventureshost 139 1,372 60% 55/92 full record on More or Less →
20VCLEDGER Founding Partner, Slow Ventures 4 66 100% 5/5 full record on 20VC →
TBPNLEDGER Founding Partner, Slow Ventures 4 57 100% 2/2 full record on TBPN →
AMERICAN OPTIMISTLEDGER Founding Partner, Slow Ventures 1 21 100% 2/2 full record on American Optimist →
LENNY'S PODCASTLEDGER Founding Partner, Slow Ventures 1 20 full record on Lenny's Podcast →
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