Fixed Income

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Startups For the Rest of Us the Neon Show Capital Allocators

36 statements about Fixed Income, every show

Kelly: Illiquidity and Complexity Premiums Drove Private Wealth into Private Credit
“To be able to complement that with credit exposures that were less liquid, that had higher credit risk, or a shorter duration through their floating rate characteristics, was a nice offset and balance to what was in the traditional fixed income portfolios, and…”
Mike Kelly Nov 24, 2025 ▶ 27:21 Michael Kelly – Democratizing Access to the Middle Market at Future Standard (EP.473)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Supported
Mogelof: Corporate DB plans hold 50-60% fixed income, 20%+ alts
“Now, about 20 years ago, there was some accounting changes which gave companies a really strong incentive to start moving more assets to a liability hedge, and so that's why you probably see north of 50 to 60% in fixed income, but still 20 plus percent in alte…”
Eric Mogelof Oct 9, 2025 ▶ 10:00 Understanding the 401(k) Market – Eric Mogelof, KKR (EP.464)
Maggiulli: Tech founders holding US equities double down on startup risk
“If you have a tech startup, and like, tech is mostly the US economy now, you're kind of, if you own US stocks, you're kind of doubling down on your, what you're already doing, which is your income, right? So I actually could make an argument for why you might …”
Nick Maggiulli Jul 22, 2025 ▶ 25:52 Episode 784 | The Wealth Ladder: Six Levels of Financial Freedom
Funding source for hedge funds completely shifted from equities to fixed income
“If you asked us 10 years ago, the funding source for most hedge funds was equity, and that's completely shifted. Even in our portfolios, the funding source is fixed income.”
Kristin Kolurgis-Roland May 26, 2025 ▶ 37:34 Kristin Kallergis Rowland – Alts at J.P. Morgan's Private Bank (Private Wealth 4, EP.447)
Private markets tech is mirroring equities and fixed income evolution
“Pre-private markets infrastructure becoming the next market structure evolution, in my view, after equities fixed income derivatives, but very informative in terms of how I think about the technology evolution that's happening in private markets from pre to po…”
Michael Sidgmore May 5, 2025 ▶ 10:10 Michael Sidgmore – Alternatives Go Mainstream (Private Wealth 1, EP.443)
Marks: In fixed income, avoiding losers makes winners take care of themselves
“If we avoid the losers, the winners take care of themselves. That's our official motto. And that's the right way to think about fixed income.”
Howard Marks Apr 7, 2025 ▶ 23:51 Howard Marks – Navigating Private Credit (EP.439)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Partly supported
Briner: North Carolina pension holds a massive 52% fixed income allocation
“It's roughly 48% in aggregate equity exposure, including some private equity, but mostly public equity, and 52% investment grade fixed income. There's some other pieces in that, but largely investment grade fixed income. There's about seven and a half percent …”
Brad Briner Oct 21, 2024 ▶ 46:46 Brad Briner - Family Office to Public Service (EP.413)
Nesbitt: Private debt returns depend on beta because alpha is limited
“Most asset classes, there's upside optionality, fixed income, and private debt as well. It's downside optionality, and so there's diversification, and there are a lot of good managers, and so we focus a lot more on beta than we do on alpha, which is limited in…”
Steve Nesbitt Oct 7, 2024 ▶ 12:47 Stephen Nesbitt – Innovation in Private Markets for RIAs (EP.410)
Eichhorn: NISA clients systematically increased fixed income and derivative hedges
“In the last year and a half, Clients have systematically increased either their allocation of fixed income, or they've increased their hedge by adding more derivatives to the portfolio.”
David Eichhorn Sep 2, 2024 ▶ 41:18 David Eichhorn - Serving Clients and Reducing Risk at NISA (EP.403)
Assaf: ICG prepares to reintroduce fixed income after a decade-long absence
“We're just now starting to really consider beginning to add some of that asset class back into portfolios and are pretty close to done with the work we're doing to identify the managers we'll use to put that in place for some of our clients where it's an appro…”
Jeff Assaf Jul 29, 2024 ▶ 27:12 Jeff Assaf - Protecting Clients and Assets at ICG (EP.398)
Fink: SWIB's 112% asset allocation spans 38% equities, 26% fixed income, 30% privates
“But we're about 38% in equities, 26 in fixed income, 19% in tips, 30%, give or take, in privates. So that's 10 in private real estate and 20 in private equity and private debt. And that gets you to about a 112.”
Anne-Marie Fink Jun 3, 2024 ▶ 28:45 Anne-Marie Fink - Cutting Edge Pension Investing at SWIB (EP.389)
Schumann: Fixed income adds little value compared to private investments
“Fixed income, not going to add a lot of value. When Meredith came on board, you jumped into privates. Frankly, that's where we're going to add a lot of value.”
Ellen Schumann Apr 1, 2024 ▶ 9:05 Training Grounds – Carnegie Corporation of New York (EP.377)
Rice University endowment fixed income and cash yields close to 6%
“Our portfolio right now from a fixed income and cash perspective is yielding close to six percent.”
Allison Thacker Nov 6, 2023 ▶ 42:23 Allison Thacker – Different Perspectives and Different Assets at Rice University (EP.348)
Puffer: CN Pension Raised Fixed Income Liability Hedging Above 50%
“The fixed income went from hedging something like 25% of the liabilities to more than 50% of the liabilities.”
Marlene Puffer Sep 11, 2023 ▶ 26:40 Marlene Puffer – Canadian Pension Model at AIMCo (EP.337)
Marlene Puffer: Fixed income investing forces focus on downside risk
“Coming up through the fixed income side is interesting because it combines the macro view where it's all the macro forces that influence interest rates with the credit view where it's very micro forces that influence credit quality. It's where macro and micro …”
Marlene Puffer Sep 11, 2023 ▶ 31:07 Marlene Puffer – Canadian Pension Model at AIMCo (EP.337)
Puffer: Foreign fixed income requires currency hedging while equities should not
“Typically those would get hedged or fixed income like where the volatility of the return stream is low. The currency volatility can swamp that. And usually that's playing an asset liability function in the portfolio. So typically that kind of investment stream…”
Marlene Puffer Sep 11, 2023 ▶ 57:23 Marlene Puffer – Canadian Pension Model at AIMCo (EP.337)
Collins: Passive investing in fixed income is one of the stupidest ideas
“Fixed income is a little bit different, and I think I've said this many times, passive is one of the stupidest ideas ever in fixed income.”
Porter Collins Jul 3, 2023 ▶ 45:59 Porter Collins and Vincent Daniel - Big Shorts and Big Longs (Capital Allocators, EP.325)
Joy: Starting in fixed income is probably the best foundation for investing
“I actually think starting out in fixed income is probably the best place to start if you're going to have a successful career in investments. It really sort of grounds you, makes you sort of really understand the sort of Charlie Ellis winning by not losing Man…”
Tom Joy Apr 3, 2023 ▶ 7:15 Tom Joy – Divine Diversification and Responsibility at Church Commissioners (Capital Allocators, EP.306)
Forman: Tokens represent the fifth global asset class
“Tokens are really interesting because they're very much a new asset class. They're the fifth asset class in the world. Pre-tokens, there were equities, fixed income, currencies, and commodities, and really every asset could be put into one of those four catego…”
Ben Forman Jun 20, 2022 ▶ 55:09 Ben Forman – Opportunities in DeFi (EP.256, Crypto for Institutions 2, EP.03)
Dowling: Conservative multi-strategy hedge funds can serve as fixed income proxies
“So we've even said for some investors, maybe you think about having some of the more conservative multi-strat hedge fund managers and think about it as a fixed income proxy.”
Greg Dowling May 2, 2022 ▶ 43:53 Greg Dowling – Mid-Market Institutional Consulting at FEG (Capital Allocators, EP.248)
Wallace Foundation holds 7% in liquid cash and fixed income
“So right now we have about two percent of cash, and then we have another five percent in the fixed income piece, which is incredible. It's daily liquidity, so call it seven percent.”
Tom Lenehan Apr 18, 2022 ▶ 39:58 Tom Lenehan – Taking the Helm at the Wallace Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.246)
Public pensions have zero chance of hitting return targets without private markets
“They have a six or seven percent actuarial assumption that they've got to meet, and there's zero chance that their public equity or fixed income buckets are going to meet that need, so they're having to do more privates.”
Christopher Zook Dec 13, 2021 ▶ 24:04 Christopher Zook – Thematic Investing and Raving Fans at CAZ Investments (Capital Allocators, EP.226)
NEON SHOW Insight
Shenoy: Provident funds serve as debt allocation, enabling equity-heavy savings
“Your PF is typically a fixed income instrument for the most part. So that's already giving you a debt allocation for your longer term. You can then therefore whatever beyond you have as savings that can go into equity”
Deepak Shenoy Nov 22, 2021 ▶ 31:41 Capitalmind founder on Financial Independence ft. Deepak Shenoy
Rieder: Fixed income strategy requires high trade volume and avoiding concentrated duration bets
“My philosophy and fixed income Is diversify, do a lot of trades, get regime right, get the asset allocation right, and then do a lot of relative value trades. Don't make a huge bet on duration. Don't make a huge bet that's going to overwhelm the whole portfoli…”
Rick Rieder Aug 26, 2021 ▶ 18:54 Rick Rieder – BlackRock (Manager Meetings, EP.08)
Rieder: Real alpha in fixed income will come from bespoke structured originations
“I think where a lot of the real alpha is going to be going forward. It's bespoke investments where you functionally create the investment, whether it's in the commercial real estate or resi or a European asset finance. The term loan to an aircraft producer. Th…”
Rick Rieder Aug 26, 2021 ▶ 30:11 Rick Rieder – BlackRock (Manager Meetings, EP.08)
Peters: The Traditional 60/40 Portfolio No Longer Works
“The 40 just doesn't work anymore, right? And the reason that you love the 40 for the last few decades, our entire trading career, your and mine, has been that interest rates have been declining, and they finally got to a point where they just really couldn't d…”
Eric Peters Mar 8, 2021 ▶ 30:34 Crypto for Institutions 1: Eric Peters – The Macro Case for Bitcoin (Capital Allocators, EP.180)
CAPITAL ALLOCATORS Assertion Contradicted
Most of Vanguard's fixed income assets are actively managed
“Most of our assets on fixed income are actively managed.”
Fran Kinniry Jan 18, 2021 ▶ 13:17 Fran Kinniry – The Comfort of Paradox at Vanguard Group (Capital Allocators, EP.173)
Mizuno: Fixed income offers more consistent alpha than equity markets
“Fixed income is a very interesting one because it's easier to beat the benchmark. The fixed income compared to the stock market, there's much more consistent Alpha generation.”
Hiro Mizuno Jul 9, 2020 ▶ 44:35 Sustainable Investing 10: Hiro Mizuno – Changing the Game (Capital Allocators, EP.148)
Children's Health holds more fixed income to back capital project debt
“Being a hospital, one of the things that we kind of go through in the enterprise review is we issue debt for capital projects, so, you know, that's actually really important because these assets back up in a lot of instances the debt issuance, and so we typica…”
Christy Hamilton Mar 9, 2020 ▶ 17:45 Christie Hamilton – Tweeting on Allocation at Children's Health (Capital Allocators, EP.124)
Hamilton: Pure deflation-hedging in fixed income destroys capital long term
“20% target to fixed income is all of that pure deflation hedging. It's not, I can tell you, because it would be nearly impossible to build a portfolio like that without destroying capital long term.”
Christy Hamilton Mar 9, 2020 ▶ 18:15 Christie Hamilton – Tweeting on Allocation at Children's Health (Capital Allocators, EP.124)
Marshall: Hewlett Allocates 12% to Fixed Income, Far More Than Peers
“12 points in the portfolio, something like that. It's not huge, but it's far more than any of my peers, for sure.”
Ana Marshall Oct 21, 2019 ▶ 31:20 Ana Marshall – Applied Direct Investing at the William and Flora Hewlett Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.111)
Pensions Hold Fixed Income for Crash Liquidity, Not for Yield Returns
“It's not to get the marginal negative three percent. It's there because if the bottom falls out of the equity market, There will be a flight to safety, which will be fixed income. That will be the liquid asset that will be appreciated at the time, and you can …”
Ash Williams Jul 8, 2019 ▶ 55:18 Ash Williams – Florida SBA's Reigning Chief (Capital Allocator, EP.104)
Recker: James Irvine Foundation targets four broad asset categories
“So we only have four asset classes. Three of them are 30%, and one's 10. So fixed income is 10, even though we're actually sitting lower than that. And then we have public equities, we have private investments, and we have, we call it multi-strategy.”
Tim Recker May 20, 2019 ▶ 30:24 Tim Recker - Concentration at the James Irvine Foundation (Capital Allocators, EP.100)
Fixed income managers are naturally dour; equity managers are perpetually optimistic
“You're going to expect to have more Dour and conservative people and on the fixed income side of things that the world's always ending and everyone's going to default versus the equity guys that think everything's going to go on forever.”
Tim McCusker Dec 17, 2018 ▶ 37:35 Tim McCusker – Consistency and Creativity as CIO at NEPC (Capital Allocators, EP. 80)
Scheer: Cincinnati endowment halved fixed income allocation to 15% in one year
“We had, I guess I'll just get specific, we had about 30% in fixed income when I arrived, and we dropped that immediately to 15%. When I say immediately, we had a responsible staged migration that took about one year”
Karl Scheer Oct 29, 2018 ▶ 26:34 Karl Scheer – Competing Sensibly as CIO of the University of Cincinnati (EP.74)
Acito: Systematic credit allocation should replace traditional fixed income
“We would argue it should be a systematic part of the portfolio. And I think really that is because it arguably is, is and could be taking the place Of what that fixed income component always had.”
Chris Acito Dec 11, 2017 ▶ 20:47 Chris Acito – Credit Where Credit is Due (Capital Allocators, EP.33)

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