Down Round

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the Official SaaStr Podcast Top Founders 20VC

11 statements about Down Round, every show

20VC Insight
Refusing Down Rounds Due to 2020 Valuations Is Irrational
“When I see companies sometimes unwilling to raise a round because it's going to be lower than this, like, fictitious number they have in their own head. I see this with, like, IPOs now, where, like, companies are like, oh, well, I can't go public unless I hit …”
Wayne Ting Jan 27, 2025 ▶ 45:09 Wayne Ting, CEO @Lime: From Losing $3 on Every $1 to $90M in EBITDA | E1252 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Siroker: Founders should always choose a down round over a structured up round
“If you're a founder listening to this and you're contemplating an up round with a liquidation preference more than one or a down round, do 100% of the time do the down round.”
Dan Siroker May 15, 2024 ▶ 54:54 Dan Siroker: Second-Time Founders Are More Investable & Why Not To Hire People Out of College |E1153 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Fisher: Inflated exit-level valuations are far worse than down rounds
“Down rounds are not problematic. Much more problematic, again, are valuations that that are essentially in exit territory, or far in excess of exit territory. It's really hard to recover from that.”
Adam Fisher Jan 22, 2024 ▶ 45:32 Adam Fisher: Why Small Markets are Better Than Big Markets | E1106 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Fisher: Transparent leadership helps startup CEOs navigate down rounds
“I think being honest as an, as a CEO and speaking to your employees like adults and not children is the way to get past it.”
Adam Fisher Jan 22, 2024 ▶ 46:19 Adam Fisher: Why Small Markets are Better Than Big Markets | E1106 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kaden: VCs are highly hesitant to lead down rounds and reprice startups
“We are seeing across the board, investors are very hesitant to come in and reprice things, and to do the down round, and deal with the anti-dilution, and navigate the mess.”
Rebecca Kaden Nov 17, 2023 ▶ 0:22 Roundtable #6 with Rebecca Kaden, Nicole Quinn, Eurie Kim, Harry Stebbings | E1083 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Disclosure
Loverro: IVP saw two potential down rounds in a single week
“We're seeing, I would call it a trickle, but like a noticeable uptick from Q-four in deal flow, and we saw two potential down rounds this week.”
Tom Loverro Feb 13, 2023 ▶ 5:42 Tom Loverro: The Ultimate Startup Survival Guide for 2023 | 20VC #977 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
SAASTR Insight
Pepper: Down Rounds Are Not Fatal and Founders Should Accept Them
“Down round isn't the end of the world. Look at our public companies. They're all down and they're surviving and it's not ideal, but you can celebrate having raised a prior round at a really low cost to capital. And if you have to do a down round and move forwa…”
Doug Pepper Dec 2, 2022 ▶ 23:47 Accel, Iconiq & Salesforce Ventures: "Where Venture Is Right Now: Gritty & Much Harder" at G2 Reach
20VC Prediction Partly held up
Emil Michael predicts tech down rounds in Q4/Q1, shutdowns in Q2/Q3
“I think we're at the end of the beginning, though, not the end of the end. The next phase is structured rounds, down rounds, like true down rounds and then sales were, unfortunately, companies sort of not making it, and I think that'll happen in Q one, you kno…”
Emil Michael Oct 25, 2022 ▶ 31:23 Emil Michael: How I Negotiated the $4B Uber-China Deal, Why DoorDash Caught Up to Uber | 20VC #941 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
20VC Insight
Morris: Ignoring unit economics for customer growth leads to disaster
“Now, we have seen fintech companies that have eschewed the whole notion of unit economics. Hey, what does it matter? I've got a net promoter score that's off the scale. I can book customers for five bucks. I have no idea what the attrition rate's going to be, …”
Nigel Morris May 24, 2021 ▶ 26:05 20VC: Why Bundling Does Not Work, How The Best Founders Analyse Unit Economics, Why The Way We Approach Mental Health in Venture and Startups is Wrong with Nigel Morris, Co-Founder & Managing Partner @ QED Investors
20VC Insight
Weinberg: Founders considering preemptive rounds must do realistic bottoms-up milestone planning
“The conversation usually with them is a, what I would call like a private one-on-one of, take your sales hat off, For a second, take your hype person hat off. Cause as a founder, you know, you're selling every single day, whether it's to recruits or customers …”
Zach Weinberg Nov 6, 2020 ▶ 23:56 20VC: Zach Weinberg on Whether A Company is a Democracy, The Importance of Ownership, The Rise of Pre-Emptive Rounds, Multi-Stage Funds Entering Seed and How he Approaches Both Risk and Personal Capital Allocation
TOP FOUNDERS Assertion Not checkable as stated
Bullhorn survived a 2002 down round with a 50% valuation haircut
“And we did a very small, like 700 K round. At a 50% haircut to the prior round.”
Art Pappas Sep 2, 2019 ▶ 6:28 1500 BullHorn Sold 60% Early On, Now $200m in ARR, E50+

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