Covenants

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Sam Lessin: Structured shell company deals offer investors asymmetric downside protection
“The reality is there's all sorts of like covenants and deals that go into these types of situations where like, if you really want to be wonky about the finance of it, it's pretty hard to lose money. And there's a ton of asymmetry on them, right?”
Sam Lessin Apr 17, 2026 ▶ 11:14 Allbirds Pivoted to AI Data Centers | SpaceX $1.5T IPO, Anthropic $800B, $175M Seed Rounds
Milgram: Wider covenants mean distressed companies require bigger operational turnarounds
“Today, covenants are much more, much wider, and as a consequence, when you violate a covenant or get to a place where you need to restructure one way or another, the business is just worse off generally and needs a much bigger operational reworking.”
Andrew Milgram Aug 5, 2025 ▶ 14:33 The Data on America's Economic Split | Andrew Milgram Interview · Invest Like The Best
Modern High-Yield Restructurings Are Driven by New Capital, Not Covenants
“The covenants are nice to have. They allow you to reprice risk along the way. We still have them in most of our middle market deals, but the big quality companies, syndicated loan market, et cetera, the high yield market, they don't have covenants. So the rest…”
Kipp deVeer Jul 24, 2023 ▶ 1:02:39 Kipp deVeer – The World of Private Credit at Ares (EP.329)
Owl Rock Assigns Independent Covenant Specialists to Every Deal
“Every deal we do, we have someone who is focused exclusively on covenants. They don't talk to any PE firms. They are just trying to understand if things go wrong, what is the art of the possible?”
Doug Ostrover Jul 26, 2021 ▶ 33:26 Private Equity Masters 6 – Doug Ostrover – Blue Owl Capital (Capital Allocators, EP.205)
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Debt covenants will dominate financial market conversations by 2024
“And that capital structure, things like covenants, these are going to be a major part of the conversation over the next three to five years. And I don't think people are ready for what that means.”
Jordi Visser Mar 25, 2019 ▶ 1:08:53 Jordi Visser – Next Generation of Manager Allocation (Capital Allocators, EP.92)

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