Chinese Open Source Models
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Shao: Self-hosting Chinese open-source AI eliminates China data flow risks
“Essentially if you self host these models or you use them through these inference service providers like fireworks, these models become yours or American, if you want to put it right. So the whole fear mongering around does the data or whatever go to China doe…”
Hays: Cloud providers would likely drop Chinese AI models under sanctions
“You would ultimately see a lot of these, you know, Neo clouds unable, I imagine to serve the, you know, traditional Chinese open source models. I imagine that even open router would probably have to. Maybe stop supporting.”
O'Driscoll: Chinese open-source AI caps profitability for US closed-source vendors
“Many US companies are starting to build their own model based on the open source alternative, so it's providing some kind of, it's providing a ceiling on profitability for some of the US closed source vendors.”
Friedberg: American open-source AI models lag behind Chinese models
“The American open source models are not as good as the Chinese open source models.”
Friedberg: Anthropic restrictions force startups and enterprises to Chinese models
“So the restrictions that Anthropic and others are putting upon themselves and upon the industry is forcing a lot of companies to go and get open source Chinese models and run them. We're seeing this across the landscape with startups. We see it with large scal…”
Gurley: Silicon Valley companies are widely using Chinese open-source AI models
“I would say it's kind of a quiet secret, just because I haven't read it on the front page of the journal, that, you know, especially from a breadth standpoint, like a volume, the companies are using these models all over Silicon Valley.”
Sachs: Chinese open-source AI models lag US frontier models by six months
“We know that like, let's say the Chinese open source models like Kimi K two, it's about six months behind.”
Simon Last: Notion Now Uses Cheaper Chinese Open-Source AI Models
“We actually just released one of them in our agent last week, and we're gonna do all four for sure. They're actually quite good, and they're way cheaper than the Frontier models.”
Ramaswamy: Snowflake tests and learns from Chinese open-source AI models
“So we test them. We use them. We try to we try to learn from them. We also partner with US companies that are trying to create open source models. There's actually a company that's based in in, in Brooklyn and San Francisco that is that, that, that we work wit…”
Madra: Chinese open-source AI offers 90% of top quality at 90% discount
“One of the things that you see with the leading open source models now, which are the Chinese is 90% of the quality in terms of intelligence, but at a 90% price discount.”
Madra: Enterprise usage will shift back to US models if OpenAI open-sources
“With OpenAI's release and, you know, Meta charges back, or even if some of these startups emerge that, you know, we can point at, I think we'll see a huge shift back towards those models versus, versus the Chinese ones.”