IBM

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24 statements across 23 episodes · 4 bullish · 11 bearish · 19 people on the record · first statement Jan 4, 2016 by Morten Lund · said 185 times in 107 episodes since 2015 · across every show →

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Jan 4, 2016 positive
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Legacy bank contracts with IBM will unwind, creating fintech opportunities
“The web bank is a media, and nobody's using it as a media, and it could do a lot of interesting things, from accounting to all kind of interesting things, and the banks are just sleeping, and they're locked in in stupid contracts with IBM, managing their whole…”
Morten Lund Jan 4, 2016 ▶ 16:19 20 VC: Morten Lund on Skype, Bankruptcy, Fintech and Why "Banks Are Full Of Lots Of Stupid People Doing Nothing"
Sep 14, 2018
Insight
Lerman: History's Greatest Companies Are Built Organically Bottom-Up
“I will say that I think if you historically look back at the greatest companies in history, they typically have come from more of a grassroots organic type of feel like Microsoft or Apple or even IBM or going back to the Ford Motor Company, going back eons ago…”
Howard Lerman Sep 14, 2018 ▶ 5:03 20VC: Behind The Scenes of a $Bn IPO Process, What Startups Can Learn From Teddy Roosevelt's "Five Minute Meetings" and What John Lennon Teaches Founders About Storytelling with Howard Lerman, Founder & CEO @ Yext
Apr 19, 2019
Assertion Supported
IBM's engineer-to-designer ratio dropped from 72:1 to 8:1 in five years
“For IBM, for example, we saw a shift from 72 engineers to every one designer in 2012. Again, 72 engineers to every one designer. And then in 2017, five years later, they were at eight engineers to every one designer across the company. And on mobile, they were…”
Dylan Field Apr 19, 2019 ▶ 25:50 20VC: Figma Founder Dylan Field on The Biggest Mistakes Young Founders Most Often Make, How To Go Slow To Go Fast With Venture Dollars & How The Design Process Will Fundamentally Change Over The Next 5-10 Years
Jul 8, 2019 negative
Opinion
IBM acquired Red Hat because AWS was crushing them in public cloud
“This record acquisition by IBM of Red Hat is really all about Amazon Web Services crushing them in public cloud, them trying to make a play for hybrid cloud more aggressively and essentially draw a buffer line where they can be relevant and aspirationally they…”
Byron Deeter Jul 8, 2019 ▶ 7:35 20VC: Bessemer's Byron Deeter On Lessons From Investing in 14 $Bn Companies, What The Heck Is Going On In Cloud Today and Why Cloud IPO Floodgates Are About To Burst Open
Feb 14, 2020 negative
Opinion
Modern tech ad monopolies are stronger than historical tech incumbents
“I think so. The scale of the market, and the way that the kind of advertising auctions and data asymmetry is in place is just much stronger than kind of these previous generations.”
Gabriel Weinberg Feb 14, 2020 ▶ 11:28 20VC: How Founders Should Think Through Distribution and Customer Acquisition Today, The Challenges of the Digital Advertising Duopoly Currently & How To Structure Company Post Mortems Effectively with Gabriel Weinberg, Founder & CEO @ DuckDuckGo
Jan 4, 2021
Assertion Supported
Marks: Supposedly invincible Nifty 50 giants eventually collapsed or lost dominance
“Kodak and Polaroid lost their market. IBM and Xerox got killed by competitors. AIG went bankrupt in the global financial crisis.”
Howard Marks Jan 4, 2021 ▶ 26:34 20VC: Bill Gurley and Howard Marks: What Happened In 2020? What Can We Expect Looking Forward to 2021?
Mar 11, 2021 bullish
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Sandell: Tech startups founded today will rival ExxonMobil and GM
“The result will be that some very iconic companies are being built today that will be the Exxon's and General Motors of tomorrow, or the IBMs, and we've already seen a handful of examples. The FANG companies have already shown us what kind of upside is availab…”
Scott Sandell Mar 11, 2021 ▶ 10:14 20VC: NEA's Scott Sandell on SPACS and Why Liquidity is One of the Challenges of our Time, Why We Are At An Inflection Point For Secondaries & Why There Is Nothing To Suggest The Boom Will Not Continue
Aug 23, 2021 negative
Disclosure
Job Candidates Inspired by IBM Are Not a Fit for Coinbase
“I will often ask people that I'm interviewing, what other companies would you interview at? What other companies are you inspired by? Now, no offense, but if they say something like IBM, which I've definitely had, they're not going to be a fit for Coinbase. If…”
Emilie Choi Aug 23, 2021 ▶ 37:08 20VC: Coinbase President & COO Emilie Choi on Building Coinbase Ventures into One of the Best Performing Funds with 0 Employees, How Coinbase Thinks Through Internal Resource Allocation and Prioritisation & Why, When and How To Hire Your COO and Head of C
Jul 18, 2022
Insight
Des Traynor: Follow-the-Money Forces Horizontal Software Into Enterprise B2B
“Inevitably, like, the problem with most of those use cases is, once you start to follow the money, you end up back in B to B SaaS land, right? Like, or at least B to B land anyway, right? There's not a lot of money selling software to wedding planners. There's…”
Des Traynor Jul 18, 2022 ▶ 34:32 Des Traynor: How I Founded Intercom; Product Marketing Tips; Feature Creep | 20VC #907 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 25, 2022
Assertion Contradicted
Emil Michael: No US consumer tech company operated in China before Uber
“Think about what consumer tech companies operate in China. Zero. There was, there's enterprise tech like Hewlett Packard and IBM and all those guys, but no one else had done that.”
Emil Michael Oct 25, 2022 ▶ 25:29 Emil Michael: How I Negotiated the $4B Uber-China Deal, Why DoorDash Caught Up to Uber | 20VC #941 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 11, 2023
Insight
Masad Shares Zuckerberg's Test for Meaningful Corporate Values
“Zuck said something very interesting. He said, one heuristic to know whether you're saying something meaningful is that, like, reasonable people can disagree with it, and the opposite of it is also reasonable. So, like, move fast and break things could be, lik…”
Amjad Masad Mar 11, 2023 ▶ 0:00 Amjad Masad: How I Founded Replit; Zuck's Famous Saying; Will TikTok be banned? | E987 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 22, 2023 positive
Insight
Fillmann: Competitive Sales Roles Build Bulletproof Skin for Beginners
“And then my first role at IBM was a competitive sales rep. So every account I talked to didn't want to talk to me. So you get to kind of have this like bulletproof skin on you, which is a really, really great way to get into sales.”
Frank Fillmann Mar 22, 2023 ▶ 1:12 Frank Fillmann: How I Boosted Revenue by $500M at Salesforce; Tips for Hiring Salespeople | E992 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 22, 2023 negative
Opinion
Seibert: IBM ridiculously charged enterprises for useless blockchain consulting
“And like IBM's at fault. IBM was consulting, like charging for services to consult on how to adopt blockchain into your enterprise. That's ridiculous.”
Jeff Seibert Nov 22, 2023 ▶ 31:20 Jeff Seibert: Why OpenAI Will Become an Infrastructure Play | E1085 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 3, 2024 bearish
Assertion Supported
Lemkin: Only two SaaS companies have gone public since late 2021
“I'm concerned that we've only had two SaaS-ish IPOs since twenty-twenty-one. We've only had two since HashiCorp was the last one of the bubble of December of twenty-twenty-one, right? Just got bought for IBM. If only had two, we've only had Klaviyo and Rubrik.”
Jason Lemkin Jun 3, 2024 ▶ 26:42 Jason Lemkin: PluralSight S*** the Bed & The Next IPO Candidates | E1160 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Aug 23, 2024 negative
Opinion
Leaving startups for legacy tech companies permanently disqualifies sales reps
“Hey, you were at this startup company and you did really well, and then you went to IBM to use an extreme example. You went to IBM for five years. We're never talking. I'm never recruiting you. Not because you're not a good rep, because by that move, I know wh…”
Chad Peets Aug 23, 2024 ▶ 40:52 Chad Peets: Why Most Sales Reps Underperform & Remote Reps Ignore Development | E1193 · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 10, 2025 bearish
Opinion
If Jake Saper Were to Short a Public Stock, It Would Be IBM
“If I were to short a stock publicly, it'd be IBM.”
Jake Saper Mar 10, 2025 ▶ 1:01:34 Jake Saper, GP @ Emergence Capital: "We Sold Salesforce Early and Lost Out on Billions" · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Mar 21, 2025 negative
Opinion
Torres: 400,000-person corporations cannot move fast despite Lou Gerstner's claims
“What I learned was that a four-hundred-thousand-person company just can't move as fast. Lou Gerstner was the CEO at the time and wrote a book called, like, Why Elephants Can Dance, right? And I don't think, I disagree with him. Elephants can't dance.”
Elias Torres Mar 21, 2025 ▶ 11:12 Elias Torres, Co-Founder and CEO @ Agency: What No One Tells You About Selling Your Company · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Oct 9, 2025 negative
Opinion
O'Driscoll: Microsoft enabled OpenAI just as IBM enabled Microsoft 30 years ago
“The role of IBM has been played by Microsoft. They set this Viper in motion, and they've allowed it to exist, and in one sense for a while it looked like Microsoft got a good deal because they got access to OpenAI's technology early on, and they got a little b…”
Rory O'Driscoll Oct 9, 2025 ▶ 7:58 OpenAI's Multi-Billion Deal with AMD & Polymarket, Vercel and Supabase Raise Mega Rounds · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Nov 7, 2025 negative
Disclosure
Startup Reps Who Join Legacy Tech Will Never Be Recruited Again
“You went to IBM for five years. We're never talking. I'm never recruiting you. Not because you're not a good rep, because by that move, I know what I need to know. You're done with, you don't want to do the heavy lifting anymore.”
Chad Peets Nov 7, 2025 ▶ 40:48 20Sales: Why You Need a CRO Pre-Product | Why Remote Sales Teams Do Not Work | How Snowflake Built a Sales Machine with Chad Peets
Apr 16, 2026 bearish
Opinion
O'Driscoll: Salesforce risks becoming another IBM if its AI agents fail
“Unless it gets its shit together and makes great agents, it's another IBM.”
Rory O'Driscoll Apr 16, 2026 ▶ 37:46 SpaceX's Financials Leaked: Is it Worth $2TN | Meta Debuts Muse Spark: Are They Back in the AI Race? · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 11, 2026 neutral
Prediction Not checkable as stated
O'Driscoll: Anthropic Sales Force Will Resemble Oracle's Within 5 Years
“The entropic sale force in five years will look like the Oracle sales force, the Microsoft sale force, and the IBM sale force, 50 years ago”
Rory O'Driscoll Jun 11, 2026 ▶ 46:19 SpaceX Launches Largest Ever IPO | OpenAI Files to Go Public | Uber Cuts 23% of HR · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 15, 2026 neutral
Opinion
IBM's brand is irrelevant, but its business will flourish
“I don't think the IBM brand is that relevant anymore in terms of like evoking an emotion and people to go use their products. But as a business, it's going to be awesome.”
Aravind Srinivas Jun 15, 2026 ▶ 1:18:27 Perplexity CEO: Micron Will Be More Valuable Than Meta & How Export Controls Helped Not Hurt China · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jun 15, 2026 positive
Assertion Open · timeframe Jun 2026
IBM survived by acquiring Red Hat and HashiCorp
“IBM is still around because they went and bought Red Hat and HashiCorp, and now they're buying Confluent.”
Aravind Srinivas Jun 15, 2026 ▶ 1:18:10 Perplexity CEO: Micron Will Be More Valuable Than Meta & How Export Controls Helped Not Hurt China · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
Jul 9, 2026 neutral
Insight
O'Driscoll: Every Tech Company Either Fails or Becomes Next-Gen IBM
“Every technology company either goes bust or lives long enough to become next generation's IBM.”
Rory O'Driscoll Jul 9, 2026 ▶ 1:10:09 Enterprises Fear Frontier Models | Sam Altman Offers Trump 5% of OpenAI | DeepSeek Builds Own Chips · 20VC with Harry Stebbings
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