product-market fit

also referred to as: product market fit

44 statements across 25 episodes · 6 bullish · 13 bearish · 24 people on the record · first statement May 1, 2017 by Sam Altman · across every show →

Everything said about product-market fit, oldest first

May 1, 2017 positive
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Altman: Founders can ignore non-product tasks until product-market fit
“All of these things are things that are not writing code or talking to users. Which means, with a few exceptions that I'll try to note, you can ignore them until after you have product market fit.”
Sam Altman May 1, 2017 ▶ 0:38 Later Stage Advice with Sam Altman (How to Start a Startup 2014: Lecture 20) · Y Combinator
May 1, 2017 neutral
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Altman: Scaling issues typically emerge around 25 employees post-PMF
“Most of these things for most companies become important between months 12 and 24. But it's really more about stage than anything else. These are things that usually hit around 25 people, ah, and definitely post product market fit.”
Sam Altman May 1, 2017 ▶ 0:50 Later Stage Advice with Sam Altman (How to Start a Startup 2014: Lecture 20) · Y Combinator
Sep 8, 2017
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Bernstam: Founders should not raise capital before finding product-market fit
“I'm not going to raise money until I have strong product market fit and I know what I'm doing.”
Tikhon Bernstam Sep 8, 2017 ▶ 45:39 The Challenges a Repeat Founder Faces - Tikhon Bernstam · Y Combinator
Sep 8, 2017 negative
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Bernstam: Fundraising too early prevents startups from finding PMF
“The folks who do fundraise too early typically get into real trouble cause they never are able to get the product market fit.”
Tikhon Bernstam Sep 8, 2017 ▶ 47:33 The Challenges a Repeat Founder Faces - Tikhon Bernstam · Y Combinator
Sep 8, 2017 positive
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Bernstam: Anything other than product and PMF is a waste of time
“Everything that's not working on your product and finding product market fit is a waste of time. Like that's the only thing that you should be doing.”
Tikhon Bernstam Sep 8, 2017 ▶ 47:23 The Challenges a Repeat Founder Faces - Tikhon Bernstam · Y Combinator
Sep 8, 2017
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Bernstam: Without a fanatic niche, a startup likely lacks product-market fit
“If you can't find some niche that is absolutely like fanatic about your product then you likely don't have strong product market fit.”
Tikhon Bernstam Sep 8, 2017 ▶ 18:54 The Challenges a Repeat Founder Faces - Tikhon Bernstam · Y Combinator
Sep 8, 2017 negative
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Bernstam: Startup studios struggle to find product-market fit due to split focus
“If you're building out, having teams that are working on like six, seven different projects, it's hard to figure out that, that really strong product market fit, which is what most startups fail.”
Tikhon Bernstam Sep 8, 2017 ▶ 46:48 The Challenges a Repeat Founder Faces - Tikhon Bernstam · Y Combinator
Mar 2, 2018
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Thompson: Product-market fit solves friction so completely users have no choice
“Stripping it down for me again, I think about it from a consumer standpoint, product market fit has to do with the fact that you're solving their problem. You're solving their problem, the friction that they experience in their lives so well, so completely tha…”
Avni Patel Thompson Mar 2, 2018 ▶ 36:18 The Number One Goal is Getting Started - Avni Patel Thompson of Poppy · Y Combinator
Sep 5, 2018
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Rusenko: Founders must ignore conferences and news until reaching product-market fit
“Number one, there's only one thing that matters. Think about that startup journey from idea to growth stage. Focus only on the thing that gets you to that next stage. Don't focus on anything else. Don't go to conferences. Don't like write blog posts. Don't rea…”
David Rusenko Sep 5, 2018 ▶ 27:35 David Rusenko - How To Find Product Market Fit · Y Combinator
Sep 5, 2018 neutral
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Rusenko: Building high-demand products is much harder than monetizing them
“It is usually a lot harder to build a product that a lot of people really, really want than it is to figure out how to make money from that product.”
David Rusenko Sep 5, 2018 ▶ 11:40 David Rusenko - How To Find Product Market Fit · Y Combinator
Sep 5, 2018
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Rusenko: An NPS above 50 likely signals product-market fit
“Your NPS, some people say 40, I think about 50. If it's above 50, then you probably achieve product market fit.”
David Rusenko Sep 5, 2018 ▶ 30:06 David Rusenko - How To Find Product Market Fit · Y Combinator
Sep 5, 2018 neutral
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Rusenko: The only two hard startup challenges are PMF and hiring
“And I'm convinced that there's basically, ah, only two hard things. Number one is finding product market fit. It's really, really, really hard. Most companies will not be able to find product market fit. It's incredibly challenging. Number two is hiring and bu…”
David Rusenko Sep 5, 2018 ▶ 11:09 David Rusenko - How To Find Product Market Fit · Y Combinator
Sep 6, 2018 positive
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Reinhardt: Experiencing genuine product-market fit feels like you are losing control
“And it feels very much like losing control, right? Like, Previously, you're like building a thing, and you roll it out, you're building a thing, and you're pushing it out, and all of a sudden you like put a thing out there, and people start running away with i…”
Peter Reinhardt Sep 6, 2018 ▶ 11:48 Peter Reinhardt on Finding Product Market Fit at Segment · Y Combinator
Sep 6, 2018 neutral
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Reinhardt: Finding initial product-market fit is not a repeatable process
“The problem with the first product And product market fit is that you can move the product and you can move the market because it's fit between these two things. And so what's unclear and they move in some crazy multidimensional space. And so what's the issue …”
Peter Reinhardt Sep 6, 2018 ▶ 28:27 Peter Reinhardt on Finding Product Market Fit at Segment · Y Combinator
Sep 6, 2018
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Reinhardt: Minor messaging tweaks will never create product-market fit
“I don't think minor changes that it will make the difference. Now, once you have product market fit, then sure you can optimize the messaging.”
Peter Reinhardt Sep 6, 2018 ▶ 27:49 Peter Reinhardt on Finding Product Market Fit at Segment · Y Combinator
Sep 26, 2018 neutral
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Bosmeny: Product-market fit is discovered through customer yeses, not noes
“I don't think you discover product market fit from the no's. I think you only discover it from the yes's. So, I think when you get no's, there's a lot of reasons people could give, be giving you no's, and I wouldn't even necessarily believe, you know, the reas…”
Tyler Bosmeny Sep 26, 2018 ▶ 40:54 How to Sell by Tyler Bosmeny · Y Combinator
Oct 3, 2018 neutral
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Founders anchor on rare praise and ignore overwhelming negative feedback
“You need to be so brutally honest with yourself and with your team about what's working and not working. I think startups are so hard that there is Almost like as a human being, you want to be happy. And so you don't necessarily want to face every reality caus…”
Mathilde Collin Oct 3, 2018 ▶ 42:43 Mathilde Collin on Feature Prioritization and Employee Retention at Front · Y Combinator
Oct 3, 2018
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Collison: Product-market fit is when you bottleneck on serving demand
“And when we launched we were basically immediately bottlenecked on sort of being able to serve user demand rather than generating user demand. And I think sort of directionally that's kind of the sort of the inversion that happens where sort of, you know, in t…”
Patrick Collison Oct 3, 2018 ▶ 11:53 Running Your Company by Patrick Collison · Y Combinator
Oct 3, 2018
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Collison: Lack of iteration speed is the primary pre-PMF startup failure
“The main thing that I think companies screw up at the pre-product market fit stage is sort of speed of iteration.”
Patrick Collison Oct 3, 2018 ▶ 34:41 Running Your Company by Patrick Collison · Y Combinator
Oct 3, 2018 negative
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Collison: Quantitative metrics are actively unhelpful before achieving product-market fit
“Generally speaking, I think that sort of pre product market fit metrics are actually relatively unhelpful. I think you sort of, you really want to bias very strongly towards kind of as much sort of inspection and kind of high throughput qualitative feedback as…”
Patrick Collison Oct 3, 2018 ▶ 17:02 Running Your Company by Patrick Collison · Y Combinator
Oct 10, 2018 positive
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Chou: Early startups should use familiar tech until product-market fit
“It's more important in the early days to be able to Iterate quickly, and usually that comes from using the technology that you know the best and building things in a modular way such that once you actually find that product market fit and know what your audien…”
Lillian Chou Oct 10, 2018 ▶ 22:14 Startup Technology - Technical Founder Advice · Y Combinator
Oct 18, 2018
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Gil: High user retention on broken products proves product-market fit
“If your product is broken and people are still using it very actively, or you have high retention on a broken product, that's a clear sign of product market fit. When Twitter was constantly going down in the farewell days, and yet nobody moved off of Twitter, …”
Elad Gil Oct 18, 2018 ▶ 8:57 A Conversation with Elad Gil · Y Combinator
Oct 18, 2018
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Gil: Organic paid adoption by major brands signals SaaS product-market fit
“If you're a SaaS company and you have major brands finding and using you organically and paying for your product that's a sign of product market fit.”
Elad Gil Oct 18, 2018 ▶ 9:13 A Conversation with Elad Gil · Y Combinator
Oct 18, 2018
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Gil: Compounding 20% monthly organic growth on small bases signals PMF
“People tend to discount growth off of small bases, even though the growth is compounding. So if you're growing organically, 20% a month, even if you're going from a hundred to a 120 users, That is a real sign of product market fit that a lot of people tend to …”
Elad Gil Oct 18, 2018 ▶ 10:37 A Conversation with Elad Gil · Y Combinator
Oct 24, 2018 negative
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Buchheit: Raising massive capital before product-market fit kills startups
“If they get a huge round of funding before they have product market fit, it kills the company. Like it because it's just too hard for the founders to resist That, because actually going out and dealing with the fact that you don't have product market fit is re…”
Paul Buchheit Oct 24, 2018 ▶ 39:02 The Path to $100B by Paul Buchheit · Y Combinator
Jan 16, 2019
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Cindy Mi: VIPKID took 18 months to reach product-market fit
“It took us a year and a half to understand that product market fit.”
Cindy Mi Jan 16, 2019 ▶ 15:09 Cindy Mi and Qi Lu Share Advice for Entrepreneurs Building Global Companies · Y Combinator
Jul 3, 2019
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Kevin Hale: If you must ask if you have PMF, you don't
“If you have to ask the question, you definitely don't have it.”
Kevin Hale Jul 3, 2019 ▶ 40:46 Updates for Startup School 2019 and Office Hours with Kevin Hale · Y Combinator
Jul 25, 2019 negative
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Graham and Andreessen's product-market fit definitions are lagging indicators
“Paul Graham's definition for product market fit is when you've made something that people want. Marc Andreessen also has an amazing blog post about product market fit where he describes it as when the product is just being pulled out of you, when you no longer…”
Eric Migicovsky Jul 25, 2019 ▶ 25:33 Eric Migicovsky - How to Talk to Users · Y Combinator
Aug 15, 2019
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Alströmer: Unbiased data is the best way to assess product-market fit
“I think that the best way to figure out if product market fit is to use data, unbiased data to understand if you basically have made something that people want.”
Gustaf Alströmer Aug 15, 2019 ▶ 9:09 Gustaf Alströmer - Growth for Startups · Y Combinator
Aug 15, 2019 negative
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Alströmer: Free usage does not indicate PMF for paid products
“Something that should be a paid product, you're giving away for free, is not a good sign of product market fit. Like, you want to figure out if people are willing to pay for it, because price, if someone says, I love this, if it's free, but if it costs money, …”
Gustaf Alströmer Aug 15, 2019 ▶ 16:06 Gustaf Alströmer - Growth for Startups · Y Combinator
Aug 15, 2019 negative
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Alströmer: Working on growth before product-market fit is a bad idea
“It's because working on growth before you have product market fit and good retention is not a good idea.”
Gustaf Alströmer Aug 15, 2019 ▶ 0:27 Gustaf Alströmer - Growth for Startups · Y Combinator
Dec 18, 2019
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Masood: Product-market fit is a stepladder you repeatedly gain and lose
“Product market fit is a stepladder. So, you're going to have it for a little bit, and then you're gonna suddenly lose it, and then you have to change your product again, and so, that's really how it is.”
Iba Masood Dec 18, 2019 ▶ 54:01 Amber Atherton of Zyper and Iba Masood of TARA on Raising a Series A as a Female Founder · Y Combinator
Jan 24, 2020 positive
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Migicovsky: Founders should iterate on target market before adding features
“Instead of iterating on the product, like building more features, they actually iterate on the market.”
Eric Migicovsky Jan 24, 2020 ▶ 26:49 YC SUS: Michael Seibel and Eric Migicovsky discuss How to Launch an MVP · Y Combinator
Feb 23, 2022
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Seibel says pre-PMF struggles stem from wrong hires, not missing executives
“More often than not in this pre-product market fit phase, the mistake is that there's the wrong person in the company, not there aren't enough people. The mistake is like, you've got an engineer that no one wants to work with, or no one's measuring any of the …”
Michael Seibel Feb 23, 2022 ▶ 6:22 Why Investors Can’t Fix Your Company – Dalton Caldwell and Michael Seibel · Y Combinator
Mar 2, 2022 neutral
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Caldwell: Wondering if you have product-market fit usually means you lack it
“If you have time to wonder about it, if you're like, gee, do I have product market fit? Let me, let's pontificate on this. That probably means you don't.”
Dalton Caldwell Mar 2, 2022 ▶ 12:57 Elon Musk & The Midwit Meme – Dalton Caldwell and Michael Seibel · Y Combinator
May 6, 2022 negative
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Seibel: Spending more money does not accelerate product-market fit
“Spending more money allows product market fit to happen faster.”
Michael Seibel May 6, 2022 ▶ 16:05 Save Your Startup During an Economic Downturn · Y Combinator
Sep 15, 2022 negative
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Taggar: Easy Early Funding for Repeat Founders Acts Like Taking Out Debt
“I'll say you find that eventually though, it's a little bit like taking out debt, honestly, where it's like maybe early on as a second time founder, like maybe the seed rounds easier, maybe even a series A is easier, but the later, the longer you work in your …”
Harj Taggar Sep 15, 2022 ▶ 10:35 Advantages Of A First-Time Founder · Y Combinator
Apr 21, 2023 positive
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Pre-product-market fit startups should tolerate technical debt and broken code
“Tech debt is totally fine. You gotta get comfortable a little bit with that heat of your tech burning. Totally okay. You're gonna fear the right things, and that is towards getting you product market fit.”
Diana Hu Apr 21, 2023 ▶ 23:01 Tips For Technical Startup Founders | Startup School · Y Combinator
Jan 10, 2025 negative
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Conrad: Startup advice to 'never give up' is terrible—give up immediately
“You know, there's a lot of advice out there to kind of stick with it, Keep going. Don't give up. And I think it's terrible advice. I think if it's not working, like give up immediately.”
Parker Conrad Jan 10, 2025 ▶ 17:52 How To Build The Future: Parker Conrad · Y Combinator
Feb 12, 2025 negative
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Dessaigne: Hiring more people before PMF slows startups down
“The more people, the slower you get to product market fit. Because you become slow, there's a lot of inertia that you have to fight against. Like if you have a big team, then comes the problem of like, hey, and you want to pivot for whatever reason, then you h…”
Nicolas Dessaigne Feb 12, 2025 ▶ 4:43 The Right (And Wrong) Way To Spend Money At Your Startup · Y Combinator
Feb 12, 2025
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Alströmer: Pre-PMF startups only need founders, computers, and one engineer
“When startups get funded, every single dollar, every single energy effort should go towards trying to find product market fit, which usually is The two founders or the three founders, their computers, their apartment, and maybe one more engineer who's also pro…”
Gustaf Alströmer Feb 12, 2025 ▶ 20:38 The Right (And Wrong) Way To Spend Money At Your Startup · Y Combinator
Feb 12, 2025 negative
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Koomen: Pre-PMF money only buys time, and higher burn destroys it
“When you're pre-product market fit, to your point, The only goal is to find product market fit, and money can't help with that. The only thing money can buy you pre-product market fit is time to figure it out. Every time you increase your burn, you're decreasi…”
Pete Koomen Feb 12, 2025 ▶ 23:57 The Right (And Wrong) Way To Spend Money At Your Startup · Y Combinator
Feb 12, 2025 negative
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Dessaigne: Do Not Hire Sales or Marketing Before Product-Market Fit
“Don't have a hire for sales or marketing until product market fit.”
Nicolas Dessaigne Feb 12, 2025 ▶ 3:12 The Right (And Wrong) Way To Spend Money At Your Startup · Y Combinator
Jun 25, 2026
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Pincus: True product-market fit requires no metrics because all feedback is positive
“There's a funny thing about, I call it true signal, but, or heat, you know, about the right product, the lightning in the bottle moment. When you have it, you know it. And when you don't know. What I mean is, you don't know it's not. You know positively when y…”
Mark Pincus Jun 25, 2026 ▶ 18:06 Zynga Founder: Consumer Is Not Investible Right Now - Thats Why You Should Build It · Y Combinator
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