product-market fit
also referred to as: product market fit
44 statements across 25 episodes · 6 bullish · 13 bearish · 24 people on the record · first statement May 1, 2017 by Sam Altman · across every show →
Everything said about product-market fit, oldest first
May 1, 2017 positive
May 1, 2017 neutral
Altman: Scaling issues typically emerge around 25 employees post-PMF
“Most of these things for most companies become important between months 12 and 24. But it's really more about stage than anything else. These are things that usually hit around 25 people, ah, and definitely post product market fit.”
Sep 8, 2017
Sep 8, 2017 negative
Sep 8, 2017 positive
Sep 8, 2017
Sep 8, 2017 negative
Mar 2, 2018
Thompson: Product-market fit solves friction so completely users have no choice
“Stripping it down for me again, I think about it from a consumer standpoint, product market fit has to do with the fact that you're solving their problem. You're solving their problem, the friction that they experience in their lives so well, so completely tha…”
Sep 5, 2018
Rusenko: Founders must ignore conferences and news until reaching product-market fit
“Number one, there's only one thing that matters. Think about that startup journey from idea to growth stage. Focus only on the thing that gets you to that next stage. Don't focus on anything else. Don't go to conferences. Don't like write blog posts. Don't rea…”
Sep 5, 2018 neutral
Sep 5, 2018
Sep 5, 2018 neutral
Rusenko: The only two hard startup challenges are PMF and hiring
“And I'm convinced that there's basically, ah, only two hard things. Number one is finding product market fit. It's really, really, really hard. Most companies will not be able to find product market fit. It's incredibly challenging. Number two is hiring and bu…”
Sep 6, 2018 positive
Reinhardt: Experiencing genuine product-market fit feels like you are losing control
“And it feels very much like losing control, right? Like, Previously, you're like building a thing, and you roll it out, you're building a thing, and you're pushing it out, and all of a sudden you like put a thing out there, and people start running away with i…”
Sep 6, 2018 neutral
Reinhardt: Finding initial product-market fit is not a repeatable process
“The problem with the first product
And product market fit is that you can move the product and you can move the market because it's fit between these two things.
And so what's unclear and they move in some crazy multidimensional space.
And so what's the issue …”
Sep 6, 2018
Sep 26, 2018 neutral
Bosmeny: Product-market fit is discovered through customer yeses, not noes
“I don't think you discover product market fit from the no's. I think you only discover it from the yes's. So, I think when you get no's, there's a lot of reasons people could give, be giving you no's, and I wouldn't even necessarily believe, you know, the reas…”
Oct 3, 2018 neutral
Founders anchor on rare praise and ignore overwhelming negative feedback
“You need to be so brutally honest with yourself and with your team about what's working and not working. I think startups are so hard that there is Almost like as a human being, you want to be happy. And so you don't necessarily want to face every reality caus…”
Oct 3, 2018
Collison: Product-market fit is when you bottleneck on serving demand
“And when we launched we were basically immediately bottlenecked on sort of being able to serve user demand rather than generating user demand. And I think sort of directionally that's kind of the sort of the inversion that happens where sort of, you know, in t…”
Oct 3, 2018
Oct 3, 2018 negative
Collison: Quantitative metrics are actively unhelpful before achieving product-market fit
“Generally speaking, I think that sort of pre product market fit metrics are actually relatively unhelpful. I think you sort of, you really want to bias very strongly towards kind of as much sort of inspection and kind of high throughput qualitative feedback as…”
Oct 10, 2018 positive
Chou: Early startups should use familiar tech until product-market fit
“It's more important in the early days to be able to Iterate quickly, and usually that comes from using the technology that you know the best and building things in a modular way such that once you actually find that product market fit and know what your audien…”
Oct 18, 2018
Gil: High user retention on broken products proves product-market fit
“If your product is broken and people are still using it very actively, or you have high retention on a broken product, that's a clear sign of product market fit. When Twitter was constantly going down in the farewell days, and yet nobody moved off of Twitter, …”
Oct 18, 2018
Oct 18, 2018
Gil: Compounding 20% monthly organic growth on small bases signals PMF
“People tend to discount growth off of small bases, even though the growth is compounding. So if you're growing organically, 20% a month, even if you're going from a hundred to a 120 users, That is a real sign of product market fit that a lot of people tend to …”
Oct 24, 2018 negative
Buchheit: Raising massive capital before product-market fit kills startups
“If they get a huge round of funding before they have product market fit, it kills the company. Like it because it's just too hard for the founders to resist That, because actually going out and dealing with the fact that you don't have product market fit is re…”
Jan 16, 2019
Jul 3, 2019
Jul 25, 2019 negative
Graham and Andreessen's product-market fit definitions are lagging indicators
“Paul Graham's definition for product market fit is when you've made something that people want. Marc Andreessen also has an amazing blog post about product market fit where he describes it as when the product is just being pulled out of you, when you no longer…”
Aug 15, 2019
Aug 15, 2019 negative
Alströmer: Free usage does not indicate PMF for paid products
“Something that should be a paid product, you're giving away for free, is not a good sign of product market fit. Like, you want to figure out if people are willing to pay for it, because price, if someone says, I love this, if it's free, but if it costs money, …”
Aug 15, 2019 negative
Dec 18, 2019
Jan 24, 2020 positive
Feb 23, 2022
Seibel says pre-PMF struggles stem from wrong hires, not missing executives
“More often than not in this pre-product market fit phase, the mistake is that there's the wrong person in the company, not there aren't enough people. The mistake is like, you've got an engineer that no one wants to work with, or no one's measuring any of the …”
Mar 2, 2022 neutral
May 6, 2022 negative
Sep 15, 2022 negative
Taggar: Easy Early Funding for Repeat Founders Acts Like Taking Out Debt
“I'll say you find that eventually though, it's a little bit like taking out debt, honestly, where it's like maybe early on as a second time founder, like maybe the seed rounds easier, maybe even a series A is easier, but the later, the longer you work in your …”
Apr 21, 2023 positive
Jan 10, 2025 negative
Feb 12, 2025 negative
Dessaigne: Hiring more people before PMF slows startups down
“The more people, the slower you get to product market fit. Because you become slow, there's a lot of inertia that you have to fight against. Like if you have a big team, then comes the problem of like, hey, and you want to pivot for whatever reason, then you h…”
Feb 12, 2025
Alströmer: Pre-PMF startups only need founders, computers, and one engineer
“When startups get funded, every single dollar, every single energy effort should go towards trying to find product market fit, which usually is The two founders or the three founders, their computers, their apartment, and maybe one more engineer who's also pro…”
Feb 12, 2025 negative
Koomen: Pre-PMF money only buys time, and higher burn destroys it
“When you're pre-product market fit, to your point, The only goal is to find product market fit, and money can't help with that. The only thing money can buy you pre-product market fit is time to figure it out. Every time you increase your burn, you're decreasi…”
Feb 12, 2025 negative
Jun 25, 2026
Pincus: True product-market fit requires no metrics because all feedback is positive
“There's a funny thing about, I call it true signal, but, or heat, you know, about the right product, the lightning in the bottle moment. When you have it, you know it. And when you don't know. What I mean is, you don't know it's not. You know positively when y…”