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Sep 1, 2018 · 15m · top-founders

1134 Ad Network Pivots to On Demand Video Generation

Lauren Wilson · 8m spoken Nathan Latka · 5m spoken
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In this interview, host Nathan Latka talks with Lauren Wilson, co-founder and CEO of Answer Media, about managing an eight-figure programmatic video ad network and scaling a decentralized, on-demand video creation studio for digital publishers.

How this conversation actually went

Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Nathan holds 42.3% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Nathan as informed peer 5.8 Guest teaching 3.8 Guest disagreement 1.3 Nathan pushing back 4.0
05100:0010:001:41–4:03 · Nathan as informed peer 5/10 Answer Media's Business Model and Strategic Diversification Nathan probes the core focus of the company, questioning how they manage multiple business lines when most competitors specialize in just one. Lauren explains the supply-chain pressures that led them to diversify away from being purely an ad network.4:03–7:22 · Nathan as informed peer 6/10 Programmatic Video Ad Volumes, CPMs, and Margins Nathan drills into the unit economics, clarifying the difference between total processed ad dollars and the platform's actual take-rate margin. Lauren provides CPM ranges across mobile and video and establishes their 20-25% gross margin profile.7:25–11:50 · Nathan as informed peer 7/10 Mid-Episode Sponsor Break: Monday.com Following the sponsor read, Nathan directly challenges Lauren's scale by contrasting Answer Media's eight-figure volume with Bill Wise's MediaOcean handling multi-billions. Lauren defends their niche by explaining how volume aggregation and publisher tech allow smaller players to compete.11:51–15:37 · Nathan as informed peer 5/10 Virtual Video Studio Model and Publisher Strategies Lauren explains the distributed model of their 200-person freelance contributor network and advises mid-sized publishers on studio costs. The conversation concludes amicably through the standard Famous Five questions.1:41–4:03 · Guest teaching 4/10 Answer Media's Business Model and Strategic Diversification Nathan probes the core focus of the company, questioning how they manage multiple business lines when most competitors specialize in just one. Lauren explains the supply-chain pressures that led them to diversify away from being purely an ad network.4:03–7:22 · Guest teaching 4/10 Programmatic Video Ad Volumes, CPMs, and Margins Nathan drills into the unit economics, clarifying the difference between total processed ad dollars and the platform's actual take-rate margin. Lauren provides CPM ranges across mobile and video and establishes their 20-25% gross margin profile.7:25–11:50 · Guest teaching 4/10 Mid-Episode Sponsor Break: Monday.com Following the sponsor read, Nathan directly challenges Lauren's scale by contrasting Answer Media's eight-figure volume with Bill Wise's MediaOcean handling multi-billions. Lauren defends their niche by explaining how volume aggregation and publisher tech allow smaller players to compete.11:51–15:37 · Guest teaching 3/10 Virtual Video Studio Model and Publisher Strategies Lauren explains the distributed model of their 200-person freelance contributor network and advises mid-sized publishers on studio costs. The conversation concludes amicably through the standard Famous Five questions.1:41–4:03 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Answer Media's Business Model and Strategic Diversification Nathan probes the core focus of the company, questioning how they manage multiple business lines when most competitors specialize in just one. Lauren explains the supply-chain pressures that led them to diversify away from being purely an ad network.4:03–7:22 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Programmatic Video Ad Volumes, CPMs, and Margins Nathan drills into the unit economics, clarifying the difference between total processed ad dollars and the platform's actual take-rate margin. Lauren provides CPM ranges across mobile and video and establishes their 20-25% gross margin profile.7:25–11:50 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Mid-Episode Sponsor Break: Monday.com Following the sponsor read, Nathan directly challenges Lauren's scale by contrasting Answer Media's eight-figure volume with Bill Wise's MediaOcean handling multi-billions. Lauren defends their niche by explaining how volume aggregation and publisher tech allow smaller players to compete.11:51–15:37 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Virtual Video Studio Model and Publisher Strategies Lauren explains the distributed model of their 200-person freelance contributor network and advises mid-sized publishers on studio costs. The conversation concludes amicably through the standard Famous Five questions.1:41–4:03 · Nathan pushing back 3/10 Answer Media's Business Model and Strategic Diversification Nathan probes the core focus of the company, questioning how they manage multiple business lines when most competitors specialize in just one. Lauren explains the supply-chain pressures that led them to diversify away from being purely an ad network.4:03–7:22 · Nathan pushing back 4/10 Programmatic Video Ad Volumes, CPMs, and Margins Nathan drills into the unit economics, clarifying the difference between total processed ad dollars and the platform's actual take-rate margin. Lauren provides CPM ranges across mobile and video and establishes their 20-25% gross margin profile.7:25–11:50 · Nathan pushing back 7/10 Mid-Episode Sponsor Break: Monday.com Following the sponsor read, Nathan directly challenges Lauren's scale by contrasting Answer Media's eight-figure volume with Bill Wise's MediaOcean handling multi-billions. Lauren defends their niche by explaining how volume aggregation and publisher tech allow smaller players to compete.11:51–15:37 · Nathan pushing back 2/10 Virtual Video Studio Model and Publisher Strategies Lauren explains the distributed model of their 200-person freelance contributor network and advises mid-sized publishers on studio costs. The conversation concludes amicably through the standard Famous Five questions.

speaking balance: gold is Nathan, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Nathan 66.8% · guest 33.2%0:00 · Nathan 66.8% · guest 33.2%3:00 · Nathan 22.9% · guest 77.1%3:00 · Nathan 22.9% · guest 77.1%6:00 · Nathan 67.1% · guest 32.9%6:00 · Nathan 67.1% · guest 32.9%9:00 · Nathan 27.4% · guest 72.6%9:00 · Nathan 27.4% · guest 72.6%12:00 · Nathan 20.3% · guest 79.7%12:00 · Nathan 20.3% · guest 79.7%15:00 · Nathan 70.5% · guest 29.5%15:00 · Nathan 70.5% · guest 29.5%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 11:07 Defending relevance against industry giants

Lauren pushes back against the premise that Answer Media is too small to compete by arguing their focus on publisher solutions and yield optimization provides unique leverage.

 Hardest push from Nathan ▶ 10:52 Nathan calls out small scale relative to MediaOcean

Nathan bluntly challenges the guest by stating they are fairly small compared to industry leaders processing billions.

 Biggest teaching moment ▶ 9:27 Explaining TAC and public company revenue accounting

Lauren explains traffic acquisition costs (TAC / X-TAC) to clarify how gross ad volume differs from net retainable revenue in digital advertising.

 Nathan holds their own ▶ 9:00 Nathan dissects vanity ad tech revenue figures

Nathan demonstrates ad tech financial literacy by calling out inflated top-line numbers and isolating true gross margin at 20%.
the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicNathan as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementNathan pushing backWhy
Answer Media's Business Model and Strategic Diversification 5413 Nathan probes the core focus of the company, questioning how they manage multiple business lines when most competitors specialize in just one. Lauren explains the supply-chain pressures that led them to diversify away from being purely an ad network.
Programmatic Video Ad Volumes, CPMs, and Margins 6414 Nathan drills into the unit economics, clarifying the difference between total processed ad dollars and the platform's actual take-rate margin. Lauren provides CPM ranges across mobile and video and establishes their 20-25% gross margin profile.
Mid-Episode Sponsor Break: Monday.com 7427 Following the sponsor read, Nathan directly challenges Lauren's scale by contrasting Answer Media's eight-figure volume with Bill Wise's MediaOcean handling multi-billions. Lauren defends their niche by explaining how volume aggregation and publisher tech allow smaller players to compete.
Virtual Video Studio Model and Publisher Strategies 5312 Lauren explains the distributed model of their 200-person freelance contributor network and advises mid-sized publishers on studio costs. The conversation concludes amicably through the standard Famous Five questions.

Statements from this episode (8)

Insight
Wilson: Ad Networks Constantly Face Disintermediation Pressure From Both Sides
“When you're an ad network, you're very squarely in the middle of the ecosystem, right? In the supply chain. And so what we've recognized is that you know, ad network oftentimes has a negative connotation. People on either end of the spectrum want to figure out…”
Lauren Wilson Sep 1, 2018 ▶ 3:11
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wilson: Answer Media monetizes hundreds of millions of video impressions monthly
“Yeah, so it's, you know, it's hundreds of millions of impressions every month. You know, there's a lot of traffic that goes through, so, you know, in the billions of opportunities as we call it, that goes through there, and then monetizing, you know, hundreds …”
Lauren Wilson Sep 1, 2018 ▶ 4:13
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wilson: Answer Media processes well into eight figures in ad spend
“Ad dollars well into the eight figures.”
Lauren Wilson Sep 1, 2018 ▶ 4:37
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wilson: Video ad CPMs are three to ten times higher than display
“You know, the CPMs for video are quite a bit higher, oftentimes three to 10 times higher than standard display. So, you know, you're oftentimes talking about, you know, double digits CPMs.”
Lauren Wilson Sep 1, 2018 ▶ 5:56
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Wilson: Answer Media takes 20% to 25% margins on ad revenue
“So you know, we're talking, you know, 20, 25% margins typically.”
Lauren Wilson Sep 1, 2018 ▶ 6:48
Insight
Wilson: Advertisers often dismiss high-quality ad inventory if it lacks volume
“Oftentimes, you know, you hear things related to quality and when you approach advertisers with things that are pristine quality, but it's on the lower end of the volume spectrum, a lot of times it gets ignored or dismissed entirely, and so volume is a big par…”
Lauren Wilson Sep 1, 2018 ▶ 10:32
Disclosure
Lauren Wilson: Answer Media manages 200 freelance creators with three staff
“So we've got about 200 contributors across the country. These are freelancers that are mobile and can be anywhere that we need to be. otherwise we've got a very small team of about three folks that are running that.”
Lauren Wilson Sep 1, 2018 ▶ 12:01
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Lauren Wilson: 90% of Answer Media's publisher clients have in-house studios
“You know, 90% of the publishers that we're working with have their own studio in house.”
Lauren Wilson Sep 1, 2018 ▶ 12:28
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