Mar 31, 2022 · 20m · top-founders

Raising $6m Now? Software Platform Helps 70 SaaS Companies Hire Sales Reps

Corey Kossack · 11m spoken Nathan Latka · 6m spoken
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Aspireship founder and CEO Corey Kossack breaks down the unit economics, candidate sourcing funnels, and revenue trajectory of his software sales talent marketplace. He details how the platform trains non-traditional candidates, charges 9,000-dollar hiring fees to SaaS employers, and prepares for an upcoming Series A round.

How this conversation actually went

Every chapter scored 0–10 on four independent dynamics. Hover any point for the reasoning behind the score. Nathan holds 35.7% of the talking time here. How this is scored →

Nathan as informed peer 4.9 Guest teaching 2.0 Guest disagreement 1.0 Nathan pushing back 2.0
05100:0010:0020:003:24–6:24 · Nathan as informed peer 7/10 Unit Economics, Payback Periods, and Marketplace Pricing Models Nathan takes Corey's stated numbers and performs real-time unit economics calculations, translating revenue per active user into a 32-to-1 candidate placement ratio. Corey confirms the math and elaborates on the subscription discount model.6:25–8:47 · Nathan as informed peer 5/10 Scaling Candidate Volume and Viral Acquisition Channels Nathan presses on where the scaling bottleneck is if unit economics are so profitable. Corey clarifies that candidate supply was historical friction until unlocking niche organic channels like teacher transitioning courses.8:48–11:32 · Nathan as informed peer 6/10 Revenue Scaling, Subscription Adoption, and Historical Placement Figures Nathan cross-checks Corey's $700k revenue against placement fees to estimate exact hiring volume. Corey explains how pricing changes and subscription tiers impacted the total placement figures.11:34–14:36 · Nathan as informed peer 5/10 Pricing Elasticity, Monthly Run Rates, and Sales Compensation Benchmarks Nathan explores candidate market compensation dynamics and role types placed by the platform. Corey details specific market benchmarks for remote SDR base salaries and OTE packages.14:37–17:17 · Nathan as informed peer 6/10 Capitalization History, Convertible Notes, and Executive Team Structure Nathan dissects the round tranches from the initial $1.4M pre-seed to the recent $20M valuation cap note, estimating Corey's remaining equity ownership.17:17–20:05 · Nathan as informed peer 5/10 Past M&A Track Record with Frederick and Upcoming Series A Target Nathan reviews Corey's multi-step exit track record from Frederick to MindBody to Vista. Corey pushes back against maximizing valuation on the next round, emphasizing investor alignment over top dollar.20:06–20:53 · Nathan as informed peer 0/10 Founder Summary and Episode Conclusion Host closing monologue summarizing Aspireship's business model, fundraising history, and financial metrics.3:24–6:24 · Guest teaching 2/10 Unit Economics, Payback Periods, and Marketplace Pricing Models Nathan takes Corey's stated numbers and performs real-time unit economics calculations, translating revenue per active user into a 32-to-1 candidate placement ratio. Corey confirms the math and elaborates on the subscription discount model.6:25–8:47 · Guest teaching 3/10 Scaling Candidate Volume and Viral Acquisition Channels Nathan presses on where the scaling bottleneck is if unit economics are so profitable. Corey clarifies that candidate supply was historical friction until unlocking niche organic channels like teacher transitioning courses.8:48–11:32 · Guest teaching 2/10 Revenue Scaling, Subscription Adoption, and Historical Placement Figures Nathan cross-checks Corey's $700k revenue against placement fees to estimate exact hiring volume. Corey explains how pricing changes and subscription tiers impacted the total placement figures.11:34–14:36 · Guest teaching 3/10 Pricing Elasticity, Monthly Run Rates, and Sales Compensation Benchmarks Nathan explores candidate market compensation dynamics and role types placed by the platform. Corey details specific market benchmarks for remote SDR base salaries and OTE packages.14:37–17:17 · Guest teaching 2/10 Capitalization History, Convertible Notes, and Executive Team Structure Nathan dissects the round tranches from the initial $1.4M pre-seed to the recent $20M valuation cap note, estimating Corey's remaining equity ownership.17:17–20:05 · Guest teaching 2/10 Past M&A Track Record with Frederick and Upcoming Series A Target Nathan reviews Corey's multi-step exit track record from Frederick to MindBody to Vista. Corey pushes back against maximizing valuation on the next round, emphasizing investor alignment over top dollar.20:06–20:53 · Guest teaching 0/10 Founder Summary and Episode Conclusion Host closing monologue summarizing Aspireship's business model, fundraising history, and financial metrics.3:24–6:24 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Unit Economics, Payback Periods, and Marketplace Pricing Models Nathan takes Corey's stated numbers and performs real-time unit economics calculations, translating revenue per active user into a 32-to-1 candidate placement ratio. Corey confirms the math and elaborates on the subscription discount model.6:25–8:47 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Scaling Candidate Volume and Viral Acquisition Channels Nathan presses on where the scaling bottleneck is if unit economics are so profitable. Corey clarifies that candidate supply was historical friction until unlocking niche organic channels like teacher transitioning courses.8:48–11:32 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Revenue Scaling, Subscription Adoption, and Historical Placement Figures Nathan cross-checks Corey's $700k revenue against placement fees to estimate exact hiring volume. Corey explains how pricing changes and subscription tiers impacted the total placement figures.11:34–14:36 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Pricing Elasticity, Monthly Run Rates, and Sales Compensation Benchmarks Nathan explores candidate market compensation dynamics and role types placed by the platform. Corey details specific market benchmarks for remote SDR base salaries and OTE packages.14:37–17:17 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Capitalization History, Convertible Notes, and Executive Team Structure Nathan dissects the round tranches from the initial $1.4M pre-seed to the recent $20M valuation cap note, estimating Corey's remaining equity ownership.17:17–20:05 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Past M&A Track Record with Frederick and Upcoming Series A Target Nathan reviews Corey's multi-step exit track record from Frederick to MindBody to Vista. Corey pushes back against maximizing valuation on the next round, emphasizing investor alignment over top dollar.20:06–20:53 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Founder Summary and Episode Conclusion Host closing monologue summarizing Aspireship's business model, fundraising history, and financial metrics.3:24–6:24 · Nathan pushing back 2/10 Unit Economics, Payback Periods, and Marketplace Pricing Models Nathan takes Corey's stated numbers and performs real-time unit economics calculations, translating revenue per active user into a 32-to-1 candidate placement ratio. Corey confirms the math and elaborates on the subscription discount model.6:25–8:47 · Nathan pushing back 3/10 Scaling Candidate Volume and Viral Acquisition Channels Nathan presses on where the scaling bottleneck is if unit economics are so profitable. Corey clarifies that candidate supply was historical friction until unlocking niche organic channels like teacher transitioning courses.8:48–11:32 · Nathan pushing back 2/10 Revenue Scaling, Subscription Adoption, and Historical Placement Figures Nathan cross-checks Corey's $700k revenue against placement fees to estimate exact hiring volume. Corey explains how pricing changes and subscription tiers impacted the total placement figures.11:34–14:36 · Nathan pushing back 2/10 Pricing Elasticity, Monthly Run Rates, and Sales Compensation Benchmarks Nathan explores candidate market compensation dynamics and role types placed by the platform. Corey details specific market benchmarks for remote SDR base salaries and OTE packages.14:37–17:17 · Nathan pushing back 3/10 Capitalization History, Convertible Notes, and Executive Team Structure Nathan dissects the round tranches from the initial $1.4M pre-seed to the recent $20M valuation cap note, estimating Corey's remaining equity ownership.17:17–20:05 · Nathan pushing back 2/10 Past M&A Track Record with Frederick and Upcoming Series A Target Nathan reviews Corey's multi-step exit track record from Frederick to MindBody to Vista. Corey pushes back against maximizing valuation on the next round, emphasizing investor alignment over top dollar.20:06–20:53 · Nathan pushing back 0/10 Founder Summary and Episode Conclusion Host closing monologue summarizing Aspireship's business model, fundraising history, and financial metrics.

speaking balance: gold is Nathan, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Nathan 56.4% · guest 43.6%0:00 · Nathan 56.4% · guest 43.6%3:00 · Nathan 23.8% · guest 76.2%3:00 · Nathan 23.8% · guest 76.2%6:00 · Nathan 23.9% · guest 76.1%6:00 · Nathan 23.9% · guest 76.1%9:00 · Nathan 48.1% · guest 51.9%9:00 · Nathan 48.1% · guest 51.9%12:00 · Nathan 26.2% · guest 73.8%12:00 · Nathan 26.2% · guest 73.8%15:00 · Nathan 21.4% · guest 78.6%15:00 · Nathan 21.4% · guest 78.6%18:00 · Nathan 51.9% · guest 48.1%18:00 · Nathan 51.9% · guest 48.1%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 18:37 Corey rejects valuation optimization framing

Corey rejects Nathan's push for a target valuation range, asserting that prioritizing high valuation over partner quality causes severe founder scar tissue.

Hardest push from Nathan ▶ 6:24 Nathan challenges the growth bottleneck

Nathan refuses to accept passive growth claims, directly confronting Corey on why expansion isn't much faster given fast payback and high gross margins.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 13:54 Corey outlines sales compensation reality

Corey provides concrete industry data on modern remote SDR and BDR salary bands, variables, and exceptions for strategic roles.

Nathan holds their own ▶ 5:30 Nathan reverse engineers unit economics

Nathan synthesizes disjointed revenue and acquisition metrics live on air to calculate the platform's exact candidate conversion rate.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicNathan as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementNathan pushing backWhy
Unit Economics, Payback Periods, and Marketplace Pricing Models 7212 Nathan takes Corey's stated numbers and performs real-time unit economics calculations, translating revenue per active user into a 32-to-1 candidate placement ratio. Corey confirms the math and elaborates on the subscription discount model.
Scaling Candidate Volume and Viral Acquisition Channels 5313 Nathan presses on where the scaling bottleneck is if unit economics are so profitable. Corey clarifies that candidate supply was historical friction until unlocking niche organic channels like teacher transitioning courses.
Revenue Scaling, Subscription Adoption, and Historical Placement Figures 6212 Nathan cross-checks Corey's $700k revenue against placement fees to estimate exact hiring volume. Corey explains how pricing changes and subscription tiers impacted the total placement figures.
Pricing Elasticity, Monthly Run Rates, and Sales Compensation Benchmarks 5312 Nathan explores candidate market compensation dynamics and role types placed by the platform. Corey details specific market benchmarks for remote SDR base salaries and OTE packages.
Capitalization History, Convertible Notes, and Executive Team Structure 6213 Nathan dissects the round tranches from the initial $1.4M pre-seed to the recent $20M valuation cap note, estimating Corey's remaining equity ownership.
Past M&A Track Record with Frederick and Upcoming Series A Target 5222 Nathan reviews Corey's multi-step exit track record from Frederick to MindBody to Vista. Corey pushes back against maximizing valuation on the next round, emphasizing investor alignment over top dollar.
Founder Summary and Episode Conclusion 0000 Host closing monologue summarizing Aspireship's business model, fundraising history, and financial metrics.

Statements from this episode (18)

Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kossack: Aspireship has placed candidates with about 70 employers
“Yeah, I think we're up to about 70 now.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 2:29
Insight
Kossack: Talent marketplaces grow primarily through candidate network effects
“I'm actually more interested in the candidate side because it's a network driven business. So as more candidates come in they attract more candidates and then attract more companies.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 2:53
Disclosure
Kossack: Aspireship Generates $275 per Active User on a $20 CAC
“So it currently costs us about 20 bucks to get an active user, and within a 120 days at least over the last 12 months, we've averaged 275 dollars per active user.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 3:34
Disclosure
Kossack: Aspireship Operates at Around 80% Gross Margin
“It's actually like a 80% gross margin business.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 3:53
Disclosure
Kossack: Aspireship Charges Companies $9,000 per Hire
“Companies are paying 9000 dollars per hire to hire out of our kind of handpicked talent pool that we match with them.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 4:40
Disclosure
Kossack: Aspireship Monetizes Roughly 3% of Active Users Through Hires
“So from the top of active users, like three percent, at least at the current state of the marketplace is about what it looks like. There's a three percent get hired. Through our network where we actually monetize.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 5:51
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kossack: Aspireship did $120k revenue in 2020, mostly in Q4
“Like one, 20. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. And almost all of that was in Q four.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 7:08
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kossack: Aspireship reached 1,800 monthly candidate signups
“1800.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 7:40
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kossack: Aspireship generated $700,000 in revenue in 2021
“700,000.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 8:52
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Kossack: Aspireship will generate $2M to $3M in 2022 revenue
“It'll be in the twos. So two to three, you know, three would be three would be upside.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 9:11
Disclosure
Kossack: Only about 15% of Aspireship clients use subscription pricing
“So it's maybe like 15% of the base. So the majority, even ones that do repeat hiring, they just like a la carte. They like to pay when they hire”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 9:26
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Kossack: Aspireship placed ~100 candidates directly in 2021
“I think probably about a hundred. Directly through the network. So figure that there's two to three X that amount outside the network that are landing jobs in tech.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 10:08
Disclosure
Kossack: Aspireship changed pricing three times in 12 months
“Not to mention that we've changed pricing at least three times in the last 12 months. We used to charge five K per hire.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 10:33
Insight
Kossack: SaaS buyers are binary on paying rather than price sensitive
“It's basically, I think most SAS companies and people that look at this, they're either willing to pay something or they're willing to pay nothing. It's less about, ooh, that's too expensive. That's too pricey.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 11:55
Assertion Supported
Kossack: Remote SaaS SDR comp typically sits between $60K and $80K
“50 to 65 K on a base and, you know, 10 to 20 K in a variable. So you're looking at, you know, 60 to 80 is, you know, all in is, is typically what you're gonna see.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 14:03
Disclosure
Kossack: Aspireship has raised $4 million to date
“And then I basically taken inside money since then we've raised a total of four million. To date.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 15:25
Disclosure
Kossack: Aspireship raised $1M at $15M cap and topped off at $20M cap
“So I had I had about a million that was at a 15 cap, and then we had a top off at a twenty million gap.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 16:22
Disclosure
Kossack: Aspireship targets $6M to $8M for Series A round
“Yeah, I think six to eight million is what we're looking at.”
Corey Kossack Mar 31, 2022 ▶ 18:28
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