Expensify

48 statements across 5 episodes · 18 bullish · 2 bearish · 3 people on the record · first statement May 10, 2017 by David Barrett · said 103 times in 16 episodes since 2016 · across every show →

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Everything said about Expensify, oldest first

May 10, 2017 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Barrett: About 10% of Expensify's 4.5M users are paying business users
“Yeah, it's about 10% of our 4.5 million is a paying business user.”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 11:42 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017 positive
Opinion
Barrett: Expense management SaaS is underpriced and should be 10x higher
“Candidly, I view our entire space is vastly underpriced. Like the idea that you can get full expense management, mobile apps, all this automation for nine bucks for active and a third of your company's active. It's really like three bucks for head. That's like…”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 18:46 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify's core business breaks even while venture capital funds experiments
“So I would say the business itself is breakeven, but we are always raising and spending on big experiments.”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 9:53 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017
Disclosure
Barrett: Vast majority of Expensify customers and revenue are on $9 tier
“We actually have two, there's five and nine. The vast majority of our revenue and customers are on the nine dollar plan.”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 7:29 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Barrett: Expensify's support team is its primary revenue generator
“Actually, our primary revenue generator is our support team. The vast majority of our revenue comes after you've interacted once or twice with our support team, but almost never with, like, a salesperson going through a demo and things like that.”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 16:16 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017
Insight
Barrett: Expensify's biggest early adoption barrier was being free
“Literally, initially, we didn't charge, or the number one barrier to adoption was that we didn't charge. Because, like, we would think back, you know, years, we'd raise money, we're just a couple of people, we don't spend money on anything, everything just gro…”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 16:51 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Barrett: Uber, Atlassian, and most Silicon Valley unicorns use Expensify
“And that raises everything from like Uber, Yahoo Atlassian, a bunch of public companies like Evernotes, most of Silicon Valley, most of the unicorns or former unicorns all use Expensify.”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 10:33 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017 neutral
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Barrett: 90% of Expensify revenue is paid by credit card
“90% of our revenue is on a credit card, which means that the only way we get paid is after you've already fully deployed your entire company.”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 16:01 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Barrett: Expensify has about 25,000 company customers
“Well, I would say we've got about 25,000 companies that use expensive.”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 10:30 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017 neutral
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify does zero advertising or outbound sales
“We don't advertise. We're a hundred percent organic. There's no advertisement whatsoever. And so things like churn was like these numbers, which seems so absolutely critical to your business. They actually just don't really matter to us at least because they d…”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 12:58 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Barrett: Expensify maintains net negative revenue churn across all cohorts
“So then revenue churn is also complicated because we have negative revenue churn. Every customer, like every cohort pays us more today than they ever have.”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 12:32 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017
Insight
Barrett: Keeping subscription pricing low deters SaaS competitors
“It's like about dominating the space and maintaining an incredibly low price right now for the industry actually helps keep the competition out. And so yes, there will become a time where that's the most important thing, but it's just not right now.”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 19:56 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify started as Trojan horse to pass bank risk reviews
“So literally it was expensify the corporate card for the masses, just as a proof of concept for this prepaid technology I wanted to build. And the banks sort of like authorize this stuff. And so that's how I get pulled into this space was really as a Trojan ho…”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 2:51 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Barrett: Expensify does not employ commissioned salespeople
“We don't have any commissioned salespeople, and so that, like, that screws up everyone's models as well.”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 15:52 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017
Assertion Supported
Barrett: Expensify has raised approximately $25 million in outside capital
“Oh, no, we've raised capital, and so I started off for a couple of years just out of savings, and then we raised I think a total of, I think maybe twenty-five million”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 8:18 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017
Assertion Not checkable as stated
One-third of employees submit an expense report every month
“About a third of the company will actually submit an expense report on a given month. But it'll be a different third every month.”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 7:12 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
May 10, 2017
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Barrett: 99% of Expensify Traffic Comes From Direct Brand Searches
“I would say like 99% of our traffic is people searching for us.”
David Barrett May 10, 2017 ▶ 21:33 655: Expensify 450k Customers Paying $9/mo for Expense Reports that Don't Suck with CEO David Barrett
Nov 15, 2017 positive
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify does not intend to raise more capital and is profitable
“No, no, we haven't raised, we don't intend to raise anymore, I would say we're, you know, profitable, we're growing, and so we just.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 5:16 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017 positive
Assertion Not publicly verifiable
Barrett: Expensify has 42,000 paying business customers
“We have 42,000 customers, whatever, but that ranges everything from like fortune 500 on down.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 6:01 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Barrett: Expensify customer cohorts pay about 500% more after three years
“After three years, they pay us about 500% more.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 11:32 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017 positive
Insight
Barrett: Routing around decision makers is Expensify's core driver of success
“Routing around the decision maker has been our entire business model and is why we succeed.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 13:32 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify does not use any paid marketing channels
“Nothing. We don't have any paid channels.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 16:34 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017 positive
Assertion Supported
Barrett: Expensify has roughly five million total users
“So we've got about five million users total and then some subset of those pay for 40,000.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 6:22 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017 negative
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify would reject a $300 million buyout offer
“No.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 22:41 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify hosts an all-expenses-paid 100-person retreat in Bora Bora
“It's only a hundred people. It's invite only, and it's in Bora Bora, all expenses paid by us. And so it's basically, it's more like the Davos of accounting, if you will.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 17:41 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017
Insight
Barrett: Expensify outspends competitors on conferences by targeting brand loyalty
“Everyone else cares about the conferences for lead generation, and we don't, and so we can show up big, much bigger than anyone else, because the ROI of the lead's just not our goal. We're just viewing it, we're viewing the value of the conference very differe…”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 16:51 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017
Insight
Barrett: Great businesses originate from overlooked spaces
“I think like most great businesses, you sort of fall into something that everyone else has overlooked because if it weren't overlooked, it wouldn't be a great business. It would just be the thing that everyone else does.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 2:32 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017
Disclosure
Barrett: Vast majority of Expensify revenue is $9 per active user
“Most companies, the vast majority of revenue is on nine dollars per active user. And that's it. And there's no integration fees. There's no upgrade fees. There's no any of that.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 10:55 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Barrett: Expensify is growing just under 100% year-over-year
“So we're doing just under a hundred percent year on year still, which gets tough at the scale, but the nice thing is actually we've in this past year, we've actually made a bunch of product changes that have caused growth to sort of re-accelerate”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 9:14 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017 positive
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Barrett: Expensify's tech stack resembles consumer social more than Concur
“We've built in a tremendous technology stack. That's much more like Twitter or Facebook than it is like concur or something else.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 15:34 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify spends millions maximizing presence at every conference
“So it's like, yeah, we spend millions of dollars in conferences. Could we spend twice as much? There just aren't twice as many conferences to go to. We go to every conference. We go as big as we possibly can and that's it.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 21:53 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify began as a Trojan horse to help homeless people
“And so I actually had no intention of building the expense reporting system. It was just my Trojan horse To let me build this card so I could give money to the homeless safely.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 4:37 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017 neutral
Assertion Supported
Barrett: Expensify ARR is under $100 million
“We don't really share that, but I would say we're still under a hundred.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 8:21 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017 bullish
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Barrett: Expensify has over 100% net revenue retention across all cohorts
“The important one is revenue retention and we're way over a hundred percent revenue retention. And so I'd say like every every year customers pay us more on aggregate than they did the year before. And so every cohort we've ever acquired pays us more today tha…”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 11:14 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017
Assertion Contradicted
Barrett: Expensify launched the first mobile expense app
“We brought the very first mobile app to expense reports.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 3:04 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Nov 15, 2017 neutral
Assertion Supported
Barrett: Expensify employs around 120 people
“About a 120, I think.”
David Barrett Nov 15, 2017 ▶ 5:28 844: SaaS: How Ignoring CAC Works for ~$100m ARR Expensify
Apr 5, 2018 bullish
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify drives growth via customer volume rather than upselling
“We think that the path to growth is not so much by increasing sort of how much you extract from each customer, but just getting more customers. And so I, I'm much more focused on just massive scale than I am on trying to like, you know, squeeze harder.”
David Barrett Apr 5, 2018 ▶ 13:43 985 How Expensify Hit $60m+ Magic on Bottom Up Business Model
Apr 5, 2018
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify team size is around 110 employees
“Yeah, actually that number is maybe a little bit off. It's more like maybe a 110 right now.”
David Barrett Apr 5, 2018 ▶ 5:38 985 How Expensify Hit $60m+ Magic on Bottom Up Business Model
Apr 5, 2018 positive
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify Does Zero Paid Advertising, Grown 100% Word-of-Mouth
“No, we have no advertising going on whatsoever right now. It's all a hundred percent word of mouth.”
David Barrett Apr 5, 2018 ▶ 8:37 985 How Expensify Hit $60m+ Magic on Bottom Up Business Model
Apr 5, 2018 neutral
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify Pays Zero Sales Commissions to Its Team
“There's no commission sales component. So no one's paid a commission at all, but we certainly have a support team that stands by because it's activity based pricing.”
David Barrett Apr 5, 2018 ▶ 9:11 985 How Expensify Hit $60m+ Magic on Bottom Up Business Model
Apr 5, 2018
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify began as a fake product to win bank approval
“It was as a Trojan horse to get permission from the banks to launch an entirely different product. And then after we launched this product, everyone's like, yeah, your prepaid debit cards are cool and all, but your expense reports are amazing. And up until tha…”
David Barrett Apr 5, 2018 ▶ 2:29 985 How Expensify Hit $60m+ Magic on Bottom Up Business Model
Apr 5, 2018
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Barrett: Expensify has 45,000 paying companies, beating top four competitors combined
“I would say like, so we think about 45,000 paying companies. So basically... So we've got more More companies is expensified than the next four expense reporting companies.”
David Barrett Apr 5, 2018 ▶ 4:30 985 How Expensify Hit $60m+ Magic on Bottom Up Business Model
Apr 5, 2018 neutral
Disclosure
David Barrett says profitable Expensify is off the venture fundraising bandwagon
“Yeah, we're profitable. So we just, we don't, we're off that, that whole bandwagon.”
David Barrett Apr 5, 2018 ▶ 6:27 985 How Expensify Hit $60m+ Magic on Bottom Up Business Model
Apr 5, 2018 negative
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Barrett: Expensify's growth slowed only due to enterprise distraction
“The only reason We slowed down at all. It was because we got distracted by the enterprise.”
David Barrett Apr 5, 2018 ▶ 12:43 985 How Expensify Hit $60m+ Magic on Bottom Up Business Model
Apr 5, 2018
Disclosure
Barrett: Expensify ARR remains under $100 million
“Yeah, we're still under a hundred. That's right.”
David Barrett Apr 5, 2018 ▶ 5:10 985 How Expensify Hit $60m+ Magic on Bottom Up Business Model
Apr 5, 2018
Insight
Barrett: Software differentiation requires business model and acquisition, not just functionality
“Cause if you're gonna differentiate, you can't differentiate through functionality alone. It has to be through acquisition, through business model.”
David Barrett Apr 5, 2018 ▶ 4:11 985 How Expensify Hit $60m+ Magic on Bottom Up Business Model
Nov 8, 2019 neutral
Assertion Partly supported
Latka Shares Facebook and Expensify's Early User Activation Benchmarks
“When Facebook launched, they knew they had to get seven friends to a new user in the first week for you to be sticky, right? And then you're going to stick, Expensify, right? A B to B SaaS company. They know when an employee downloads their app, they've got to…”
Nathan Latka Nov 8, 2019 ▶ 6:13 1567 How New Employee Feedback Tool Plans to Monetize
May 17, 2021 bullish
Disclosure
Bean: Divvy offers free software by monetizing card interchange fees
“We make money just like the banks would. And then we give you the software that Expensify and others are giving you. So we really combine it into one platform.”
Alex Bean May 17, 2021 ▶ 4:50 Divvy Founder Sees Clear Path to $100m, 20k Customers, Most Revenue from CC fees, $1b+ in GMV
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