Apr 17, 2024 · 39m · the-pitch

Women-Led Startup Funding: Will Investors Bet on This $5M Bootstrapped Feminine Hygiene Brand?

Monica Williams · 9m spoken Josh Muccio · 8m spoken Mac Conwell · 6m spoken Charles Hudson · 2m spoken Beck Bamberger · 2m spoken Elizabeth Yin · 1m spoken Pascal Unger · 59s spoken Kenny Rose · 16s spoken
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Founder Monica Williams pitches Red Drop, a bootstrapped tween feminine hygiene startup that achieved $5 million in revenue, to a panel of venture capitalists on The Pitch. Despite typical investor hesitation toward consumer physical products and multiple portfolio conflicts, Williams secures backing from Rare Breed Ventures and The Pitch Fund.

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Josh as informed peer 5.0 Guest teaching 4.6 Guest disagreement 1.7 Josh pushing back 2.4
05100:0010:0020:0030:002:19–5:53 · Josh as informed peer 3/10 Monica Williams Pitches Red Drop Monica delivers her initial pitch for Red Drop, explaining the lack of age-appropriate feminine hygiene products for tweens and presenting her strong bootstrapped traction ($5M cumulative, $3M last year). The room is receptive and intrigued as they unpack the sample kit.5:53–9:10 · Josh as informed peer 5/10 Customer Acquisition, Margins, and Digital Strategy The investors drill down on unit economics, acquisition channels, and retention. Monica cleanly lays out her margins (65-80%), school acquisition channel through legislative mandates, and plans for a digital period tracker.9:10–11:25 · Josh as informed peer 6/10 VC Conflicts and Omni-Channel Challenges Charles and Elizabeth note direct portfolio conflicts with Aunt Flow and Ruby Love, while Pascal notes a software mandate. Charles offers deep industry analysis on the omni-channel retail transition and inventory balancing challenges.11:26–16:28 · Josh as informed peer 5/10 Expanding the Product Line and Long-Term Vision Mac pushes Monica on why she is only asking for $500k given her high revenue traction. Monica expands on her multi-product roadmap and thoughtfully articulates how as a Black woman founder from the South, she has had to temper her ambition to remain believable to traditional VCs.16:28–18:55 · Josh as informed peer 4/10 Investment Decision, Final Rebuttals, and Studio Exit Mac commits $50k to the round. Beck passes citing a crowded space, prompting Monica to firmly push back with market data showing competitor teen products are simply repackaged adult pads that fail to fit tweens.18:59–28:24 · Josh as informed peer 7/10 Investors Debate Consumer Startups and Pitch Ambition The investor panel engages in an extensive debrief on the systemic biases facing diverse and CPG founders, discussing the double standard where underrepresented founders are penalized whether they pitch too conservatively or too aggressively.28:24–35:51 · Josh as informed peer 5/10 Post-Show Diligence and The Pitch Fund Interest Josh conducts a post-pitch check-in where Monica describes successfully handling diligence questions about retail competition by hiring a veteran Target buyer. Josh reveals that The Pitch Fund intends to co-invest alongside Mac once terms are finalized.2:19–5:53 · Guest teaching 5/10 Monica Williams Pitches Red Drop Monica delivers her initial pitch for Red Drop, explaining the lack of age-appropriate feminine hygiene products for tweens and presenting her strong bootstrapped traction ($5M cumulative, $3M last year). The room is receptive and intrigued as they unpack the sample kit.5:53–9:10 · Guest teaching 5/10 Customer Acquisition, Margins, and Digital Strategy The investors drill down on unit economics, acquisition channels, and retention. Monica cleanly lays out her margins (65-80%), school acquisition channel through legislative mandates, and plans for a digital period tracker.9:10–11:25 · Guest teaching 2/10 VC Conflicts and Omni-Channel Challenges Charles and Elizabeth note direct portfolio conflicts with Aunt Flow and Ruby Love, while Pascal notes a software mandate. Charles offers deep industry analysis on the omni-channel retail transition and inventory balancing challenges.11:26–16:28 · Guest teaching 6/10 Expanding the Product Line and Long-Term Vision Mac pushes Monica on why she is only asking for $500k given her high revenue traction. Monica expands on her multi-product roadmap and thoughtfully articulates how as a Black woman founder from the South, she has had to temper her ambition to remain believable to traditional VCs.16:28–18:55 · Guest teaching 6/10 Investment Decision, Final Rebuttals, and Studio Exit Mac commits $50k to the round. Beck passes citing a crowded space, prompting Monica to firmly push back with market data showing competitor teen products are simply repackaged adult pads that fail to fit tweens.18:59–28:24 · Guest teaching 3/10 Investors Debate Consumer Startups and Pitch Ambition The investor panel engages in an extensive debrief on the systemic biases facing diverse and CPG founders, discussing the double standard where underrepresented founders are penalized whether they pitch too conservatively or too aggressively.28:24–35:51 · Guest teaching 5/10 Post-Show Diligence and The Pitch Fund Interest Josh conducts a post-pitch check-in where Monica describes successfully handling diligence questions about retail competition by hiring a veteran Target buyer. Josh reveals that The Pitch Fund intends to co-invest alongside Mac once terms are finalized.2:19–5:53 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Monica Williams Pitches Red Drop Monica delivers her initial pitch for Red Drop, explaining the lack of age-appropriate feminine hygiene products for tweens and presenting her strong bootstrapped traction ($5M cumulative, $3M last year). The room is receptive and intrigued as they unpack the sample kit.5:53–9:10 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Customer Acquisition, Margins, and Digital Strategy The investors drill down on unit economics, acquisition channels, and retention. Monica cleanly lays out her margins (65-80%), school acquisition channel through legislative mandates, and plans for a digital period tracker.9:10–11:25 · Guest disagreement 0/10 VC Conflicts and Omni-Channel Challenges Charles and Elizabeth note direct portfolio conflicts with Aunt Flow and Ruby Love, while Pascal notes a software mandate. Charles offers deep industry analysis on the omni-channel retail transition and inventory balancing challenges.11:26–16:28 · Guest disagreement 3/10 Expanding the Product Line and Long-Term Vision Mac pushes Monica on why she is only asking for $500k given her high revenue traction. Monica expands on her multi-product roadmap and thoughtfully articulates how as a Black woman founder from the South, she has had to temper her ambition to remain believable to traditional VCs.16:28–18:55 · Guest disagreement 4/10 Investment Decision, Final Rebuttals, and Studio Exit Mac commits $50k to the round. Beck passes citing a crowded space, prompting Monica to firmly push back with market data showing competitor teen products are simply repackaged adult pads that fail to fit tweens.18:59–28:24 · Guest disagreement 2/10 Investors Debate Consumer Startups and Pitch Ambition The investor panel engages in an extensive debrief on the systemic biases facing diverse and CPG founders, discussing the double standard where underrepresented founders are penalized whether they pitch too conservatively or too aggressively.28:24–35:51 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Post-Show Diligence and The Pitch Fund Interest Josh conducts a post-pitch check-in where Monica describes successfully handling diligence questions about retail competition by hiring a veteran Target buyer. Josh reveals that The Pitch Fund intends to co-invest alongside Mac once terms are finalized.2:19–5:53 · Josh pushing back 1/10 Monica Williams Pitches Red Drop Monica delivers her initial pitch for Red Drop, explaining the lack of age-appropriate feminine hygiene products for tweens and presenting her strong bootstrapped traction ($5M cumulative, $3M last year). The room is receptive and intrigued as they unpack the sample kit.5:53–9:10 · Josh pushing back 2/10 Customer Acquisition, Margins, and Digital Strategy The investors drill down on unit economics, acquisition channels, and retention. Monica cleanly lays out her margins (65-80%), school acquisition channel through legislative mandates, and plans for a digital period tracker.9:10–11:25 · Josh pushing back 2/10 VC Conflicts and Omni-Channel Challenges Charles and Elizabeth note direct portfolio conflicts with Aunt Flow and Ruby Love, while Pascal notes a software mandate. Charles offers deep industry analysis on the omni-channel retail transition and inventory balancing challenges.11:26–16:28 · Josh pushing back 4/10 Expanding the Product Line and Long-Term Vision Mac pushes Monica on why she is only asking for $500k given her high revenue traction. Monica expands on her multi-product roadmap and thoughtfully articulates how as a Black woman founder from the South, she has had to temper her ambition to remain believable to traditional VCs.16:28–18:55 · Josh pushing back 3/10 Investment Decision, Final Rebuttals, and Studio Exit Mac commits $50k to the round. Beck passes citing a crowded space, prompting Monica to firmly push back with market data showing competitor teen products are simply repackaged adult pads that fail to fit tweens.18:59–28:24 · Josh pushing back 3/10 Investors Debate Consumer Startups and Pitch Ambition The investor panel engages in an extensive debrief on the systemic biases facing diverse and CPG founders, discussing the double standard where underrepresented founders are penalized whether they pitch too conservatively or too aggressively.28:24–35:51 · Josh pushing back 2/10 Post-Show Diligence and The Pitch Fund Interest Josh conducts a post-pitch check-in where Monica describes successfully handling diligence questions about retail competition by hiring a veteran Target buyer. Josh reveals that The Pitch Fund intends to co-invest alongside Mac once terms are finalized.

speaking balance: gold is Josh, purple is the guest (3 minute bins)

0:00 · Josh 67.2% · guest 32.8%0:00 · Josh 67.2% · guest 32.8%3:00 · Josh 0% · guest 100%3:00 · Josh 0% · guest 100%6:00 · Josh 0% · guest 100%6:00 · Josh 0% · guest 100%9:00 · Josh 0% · guest 100%9:00 · Josh 0% · guest 100%12:00 · Josh 0% · guest 100%12:00 · Josh 0% · guest 100%15:00 · Josh 0% · guest 100%15:00 · Josh 0% · guest 100%18:00 · Josh 38.3% · guest 61.7%18:00 · Josh 38.3% · guest 61.7%21:00 · Josh 42.7% · guest 57.3%21:00 · Josh 42.7% · guest 57.3%24:00 · Josh 5.2% · guest 94.8%24:00 · Josh 5.2% · guest 94.8%27:00 · Josh 49.9% · guest 50.1%27:00 · Josh 49.9% · guest 50.1%30:00 · Josh 30.4% · guest 69.6%30:00 · Josh 30.4% · guest 69.6%33:00 · Josh 38.1% · guest 61.9%33:00 · Josh 38.1% · guest 61.9%36:00 · Josh 80.9% · guest 19.1%36:00 · Josh 80.9% · guest 19.1%39:00 · Josh 98.9% · guest 1.1%39:00 · Josh 98.9% · guest 1.1%
Sharpest disagreement ▶ 17:15 Rebuttal on market saturation

Monica directly challenges Beck's premise that the tween feminine hygiene market is crowded, pointing out that legacy brands only offer adult size 1 pads under teen branding rather than tailored products.

Hardest push from Josh ▶ 12:00 Mac challenges small raise amount

Mac refuses to accept Monica's modest $500k ask given her $3M run-rate, pushing her to reveal the full long-term vision she left out of the opening pitch.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 17:15 Educating on the illusion of teen feminine care

Monica educates the room on the reality of existing retail offerings, explaining that competitors do not make true tween-sized pads and leaving the category largely unaddressed.

Josh holds their own ▶ 10:17 Charles details omni-channel scaling pitfalls

Charles leverages his extensive portfolio experience in feminine hygiene and CPG to outline the inventory allocation and margin balancing required when expanding from D2C into big-box retail.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicJosh as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementJosh pushing backWhy
Monica Williams Pitches Red Drop 3511 Monica delivers her initial pitch for Red Drop, explaining the lack of age-appropriate feminine hygiene products for tweens and presenting her strong bootstrapped traction ($5M cumulative, $3M last year). The room is receptive and intrigued as they unpack the sample kit.
Customer Acquisition, Margins, and Digital Strategy 5512 The investors drill down on unit economics, acquisition channels, and retention. Monica cleanly lays out her margins (65-80%), school acquisition channel through legislative mandates, and plans for a digital period tracker.
VC Conflicts and Omni-Channel Challenges 6202 Charles and Elizabeth note direct portfolio conflicts with Aunt Flow and Ruby Love, while Pascal notes a software mandate. Charles offers deep industry analysis on the omni-channel retail transition and inventory balancing challenges.
Expanding the Product Line and Long-Term Vision 5634 Mac pushes Monica on why she is only asking for $500k given her high revenue traction. Monica expands on her multi-product roadmap and thoughtfully articulates how as a Black woman founder from the South, she has had to temper her ambition to remain believable to traditional VCs.
Investment Decision, Final Rebuttals, and Studio Exit 4643 Mac commits $50k to the round. Beck passes citing a crowded space, prompting Monica to firmly push back with market data showing competitor teen products are simply repackaged adult pads that fail to fit tweens.
Investors Debate Consumer Startups and Pitch Ambition 7323 The investor panel engages in an extensive debrief on the systemic biases facing diverse and CPG founders, discussing the double standard where underrepresented founders are penalized whether they pitch too conservatively or too aggressively.
Post-Show Diligence and The Pitch Fund Interest 5512 Josh conducts a post-pitch check-in where Monica describes successfully handling diligence questions about retail competition by hiring a veteran Target buyer. Josh reveals that The Pitch Fund intends to co-invest alongside Mac once terms are finalized.

Statements from this episode (16)

Assertion Not checkable as stated
Williams: Red Drop generated $5M total revenue, $3M last year
“We've generated five million dollars in revenue since our launch in 2021, three million dollars last year”
Monica Williams Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 3:14
Disclosure
Williams: Red Drop is raising a $500,000 seed round
“I'd love to invite you to join a five, I'm sorry, 500,000 dollar seed round that we're raising for scale”
Monica Williams Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 3:24
Disclosure
Williams: Red Drop markets directly to mothers to prepare tweens
“We market to moms to really get prepared and start having the conversation because what the situation I described happens in schools.”
Monica Williams Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 4:58
Assertion Partly supported
Williams: 26 states require public schools to buy feminine hygiene products
“26 states are required to buy feminine hygiene for students, and so we go and do conferences and school nurses spaces where we sell to schools as well, so it's really customer acquisition for which we are paid.”
Monica Williams Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 6:22
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Williams: Red Drop achieves 80% direct margins and 65% gross margins
“So our direct margin's at least 80%. Our gross margin is around 65% for this. For our school product, it's a little bit lower, because we pay commissions on that.”
Monica Williams Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 7:09
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Williams: 40% of Red Drop promotional sales come from repeat customers
“In terms of repeat customers, the best way I can answer that question for you right now is that when we have a sale event, 40% of our sales are from repeat customers.”
Monica Williams Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 8:05
Disclosure
Hudson: Precursor passed due to conflict with feminine hygiene startup Aunt Flow
“I'm an investor in a company called Antflow that's focused just on really the B to B in school”
Charles Hudson Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 9:39
Insight
Hudson: Scaled consumer brands must operate across DTC and retail
“Every company we have that's scaled, we have an incontinence brand focused on sort of the other Stage of life. You end up being multi-channel in the mix of D to C, B to B slash wholesale and retail. Every company ends up with a different formula, but that seem…”
Charles Hudson Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 11:01
Disclosure
Conwell: RareBreed Ventures commits $50,000 to Red Drop
“So yes, we, we've spent a couple minutes telling you how much we think this is incredible, and what you could do with it, so I'm in I'm gonna say I'm in for 50 K, I want to be in for a lot more if I could, I would tell you I'd give you the whole 500, but I can…”
Mac Conwell Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 16:12
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Williams: Legacy teen pad brands just repackage adult size-one pads
“Well, to your point, Beck, there's, honestly, there's only one tween brand. If you go into the store, there's always Kotex and Stay Free. They have a teen brand. If you open the package, It's a size one adult pad. It doesn't fit. That isn't tween, that's teen.…”
Monica Williams Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 17:16
Disclosure
Williams: Red Drop raised only $274k before first institutional check
“This is our first institutional investment ever. Like we bootstrapped... We've only raised two 74.”
Monica Williams Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 17:46
Insight
Conwell: VC is built for founders whose only problem is money
“Figuring out how to grow is a problem money solves. A lot of founders we see have other problems that money doesn't solve that we're trying to get to. When you got a founder where their only problem is I need money to solve this problem. That is something that…”
Mac Conwell Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 20:17
Disclosure
Yin: Missing Pepper prompted personal angel investments in DTC startups
“We also don't invest in DTC with our firm, but over the last couple of years, having had a bunch of misses like Pepper, I've now started writing those personal checks because actually there's a lot of really good companies in DTC, especially because there are …”
Elizabeth Yin Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 27:17
Disclosure
Hudson: Three of Precursor's best portfolio companies are direct-to-consumer
“Three of our best companies, Bobby, Pepper, and Pierre Ivo are all DTC, and they're all like real companies.”
Charles Hudson Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 27:34
Prediction Not checkable as stated
Williams: RedDrop will reach $100M revenue within three years
“I have no doubt that we will be Eight figures in 18 months, and nine figures in probably 24 to 36 for sure.”
Monica Williams Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 30:07
Disclosure
Williams: RedDrop partners with Girl Scouts, expects fall Ulta retail launch
“We are Girl Scouts partner now for feminine hygiene, and I think we'll have our first placement in retail in the fall at Ulta.”
Monica Williams Apr 17, 2024 ▶ 32:15
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