Jul 5, 2023 · 45m · saastr

Go to Market Strategies That Led To Divvy's $2.5B Exit with Divvy’s Former CRO, Sterling Snow

Sterling Snow · 37m spoken
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Former Divvy Chief Revenue Officer Sterling Snow breaks down the six core go-to-market operating frameworks and cultural principles that accelerated Divvy's trajectory to a $2.5 billion acquisition by Bill.com. He delivers practical strategies on funnel alignment, goal setting, operational cadences, bilateral feedback, clear accountability, and customer-first product validation.

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Jason as informed peer 0.1 Guest teaching 0.3 Guest disagreement 0.1 Jason pushing back 0.1
05100:0015:0030:0045:002:08–6:41 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Cultivating a High-Performance Team Culture and Core Values Monologue presentation by Sterling Snow detailing Divvy's core values, extreme ownership culture, and zero tolerance for excuses. Host scores are 0 as no host is actively speaking.6:42–9:54 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 1: Aligning the Funnel and Cross-Functional Accountability Solo presentation outlining the 'align the funnel' model and compensating teams one step deeper down the pipeline. Host scores remain 0 due to solo delivery.9:58–13:15 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 2: The Budget, Quota, and Goal Framework Presentation on the 'budget, quota, goal' framework to ensure reliable forecasting while maintaining stretch upside. No active host dialogue.13:16–16:24 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 3: Shortening Execution Cycles and Operational Cadence Sterling explains the benefits of shifting operating cadences from quarterly to monthly and weekly. No host participation.16:25–19:19 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 4: Implementing Bilateral T3B3 Performance Reviews Solo breakdown of the bilateral T3B3 feedback framework between leaders and direct reports.19:20–23:03 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 5: Name, Number, and North Star Accountability Sterling presents the Name, Number, and North Star framework for tracking clear cross-functional ownership.23:05–26:41 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 6: The Sell, Design, Build Product Validation Strategy Snow details the Sell, Design, Build product validation model using manual prototypes. Monologue format continues.26:43–32:51 · Jason as informed peer 0/10 Framework Recap: Driving Long-Term Execution Through Consistency Snow provides a comprehensive recap of all six models and emphasizes consistency of execution before starting Q&A.33:00–45:46 · Jason as informed peer 1/10 Audience Q&A: Applying GTM Strategies, Incentives, and Cross-Functional Alignment Audience members ask practical clarification questions regarding attribution, brand measurement, and buyer cycles. Sterling answers constructively with concrete examples.2:08–6:41 · Guest teaching 0/10 Cultivating a High-Performance Team Culture and Core Values Monologue presentation by Sterling Snow detailing Divvy's core values, extreme ownership culture, and zero tolerance for excuses. Host scores are 0 as no host is actively speaking.6:42–9:54 · Guest teaching 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 1: Aligning the Funnel and Cross-Functional Accountability Solo presentation outlining the 'align the funnel' model and compensating teams one step deeper down the pipeline. Host scores remain 0 due to solo delivery.9:58–13:15 · Guest teaching 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 2: The Budget, Quota, and Goal Framework Presentation on the 'budget, quota, goal' framework to ensure reliable forecasting while maintaining stretch upside. No active host dialogue.13:16–16:24 · Guest teaching 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 3: Shortening Execution Cycles and Operational Cadence Sterling explains the benefits of shifting operating cadences from quarterly to monthly and weekly. No host participation.16:25–19:19 · Guest teaching 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 4: Implementing Bilateral T3B3 Performance Reviews Solo breakdown of the bilateral T3B3 feedback framework between leaders and direct reports.19:20–23:03 · Guest teaching 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 5: Name, Number, and North Star Accountability Sterling presents the Name, Number, and North Star framework for tracking clear cross-functional ownership.23:05–26:41 · Guest teaching 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 6: The Sell, Design, Build Product Validation Strategy Snow details the Sell, Design, Build product validation model using manual prototypes. Monologue format continues.26:43–32:51 · Guest teaching 0/10 Framework Recap: Driving Long-Term Execution Through Consistency Snow provides a comprehensive recap of all six models and emphasizes consistency of execution before starting Q&A.33:00–45:46 · Guest teaching 3/10 Audience Q&A: Applying GTM Strategies, Incentives, and Cross-Functional Alignment Audience members ask practical clarification questions regarding attribution, brand measurement, and buyer cycles. Sterling answers constructively with concrete examples.2:08–6:41 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Cultivating a High-Performance Team Culture and Core Values Monologue presentation by Sterling Snow detailing Divvy's core values, extreme ownership culture, and zero tolerance for excuses. Host scores are 0 as no host is actively speaking.6:42–9:54 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 1: Aligning the Funnel and Cross-Functional Accountability Solo presentation outlining the 'align the funnel' model and compensating teams one step deeper down the pipeline. Host scores remain 0 due to solo delivery.9:58–13:15 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 2: The Budget, Quota, and Goal Framework Presentation on the 'budget, quota, goal' framework to ensure reliable forecasting while maintaining stretch upside. No active host dialogue.13:16–16:24 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 3: Shortening Execution Cycles and Operational Cadence Sterling explains the benefits of shifting operating cadences from quarterly to monthly and weekly. No host participation.16:25–19:19 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 4: Implementing Bilateral T3B3 Performance Reviews Solo breakdown of the bilateral T3B3 feedback framework between leaders and direct reports.19:20–23:03 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 5: Name, Number, and North Star Accountability Sterling presents the Name, Number, and North Star framework for tracking clear cross-functional ownership.23:05–26:41 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 6: The Sell, Design, Build Product Validation Strategy Snow details the Sell, Design, Build product validation model using manual prototypes. Monologue format continues.26:43–32:51 · Guest disagreement 0/10 Framework Recap: Driving Long-Term Execution Through Consistency Snow provides a comprehensive recap of all six models and emphasizes consistency of execution before starting Q&A.33:00–45:46 · Guest disagreement 1/10 Audience Q&A: Applying GTM Strategies, Incentives, and Cross-Functional Alignment Audience members ask practical clarification questions regarding attribution, brand measurement, and buyer cycles. Sterling answers constructively with concrete examples.2:08–6:41 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Cultivating a High-Performance Team Culture and Core Values Monologue presentation by Sterling Snow detailing Divvy's core values, extreme ownership culture, and zero tolerance for excuses. Host scores are 0 as no host is actively speaking.6:42–9:54 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 1: Aligning the Funnel and Cross-Functional Accountability Solo presentation outlining the 'align the funnel' model and compensating teams one step deeper down the pipeline. Host scores remain 0 due to solo delivery.9:58–13:15 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 2: The Budget, Quota, and Goal Framework Presentation on the 'budget, quota, goal' framework to ensure reliable forecasting while maintaining stretch upside. No active host dialogue.13:16–16:24 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 3: Shortening Execution Cycles and Operational Cadence Sterling explains the benefits of shifting operating cadences from quarterly to monthly and weekly. No host participation.16:25–19:19 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 4: Implementing Bilateral T3B3 Performance Reviews Solo breakdown of the bilateral T3B3 feedback framework between leaders and direct reports.19:20–23:03 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 5: Name, Number, and North Star Accountability Sterling presents the Name, Number, and North Star framework for tracking clear cross-functional ownership.23:05–26:41 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Go-to-Market Model 6: The Sell, Design, Build Product Validation Strategy Snow details the Sell, Design, Build product validation model using manual prototypes. Monologue format continues.26:43–32:51 · Jason pushing back 0/10 Framework Recap: Driving Long-Term Execution Through Consistency Snow provides a comprehensive recap of all six models and emphasizes consistency of execution before starting Q&A.33:00–45:46 · Jason pushing back 1/10 Audience Q&A: Applying GTM Strategies, Incentives, and Cross-Functional Alignment Audience members ask practical clarification questions regarding attribution, brand measurement, and buyer cycles. Sterling answers constructively with concrete examples.

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Sharpest disagreement ▶ 37:45 Reframing sales synchronicity over market conditions

Sterling firmly clarifies that swing does not mean smooth water, rejecting the notion that chaotic market environments excuse poor internal coordination.

Hardest push from Jason ▶ 41:51 Audience member challenges the calm water analogy

An audience member questions Sterling's rowing concept, pointing out that sales reality is often turbulent whitewater rafting rather than synchronized smooth rowing.

Biggest teaching moment ▶ 37:44 Assigning organic revenue quotas to brand marketing

Sterling explains how Divvy held brand creative teams accountable to organic revenue metrics despite conventional marketing dogma considering it heresy.

Jason holds their own ▶ 42:25 Resolving the whitewater rafting dilemma

Sterling demonstrates deep operational clarity by explaining how internal alignment eliminates wasted effort on policing internal data disputes during chaotic sprints.

the scores for every segment, with the reasoning behind each
ChapterTopicJason as informed peerGuest teachingGuest disagreementJason pushing backWhy
Cultivating a High-Performance Team Culture and Core Values 0000 Monologue presentation by Sterling Snow detailing Divvy's core values, extreme ownership culture, and zero tolerance for excuses. Host scores are 0 as no host is actively speaking.
Go-to-Market Model 1: Aligning the Funnel and Cross-Functional Accountability 0000 Solo presentation outlining the 'align the funnel' model and compensating teams one step deeper down the pipeline. Host scores remain 0 due to solo delivery.
Go-to-Market Model 2: The Budget, Quota, and Goal Framework 0000 Presentation on the 'budget, quota, goal' framework to ensure reliable forecasting while maintaining stretch upside. No active host dialogue.
Go-to-Market Model 3: Shortening Execution Cycles and Operational Cadence 0000 Sterling explains the benefits of shifting operating cadences from quarterly to monthly and weekly. No host participation.
Go-to-Market Model 4: Implementing Bilateral T3B3 Performance Reviews 0000 Solo breakdown of the bilateral T3B3 feedback framework between leaders and direct reports.
Go-to-Market Model 5: Name, Number, and North Star Accountability 0000 Sterling presents the Name, Number, and North Star framework for tracking clear cross-functional ownership.
Go-to-Market Model 6: The Sell, Design, Build Product Validation Strategy 0000 Snow details the Sell, Design, Build product validation model using manual prototypes. Monologue format continues.
Framework Recap: Driving Long-Term Execution Through Consistency 0000 Snow provides a comprehensive recap of all six models and emphasizes consistency of execution before starting Q&A.
Audience Q&A: Applying GTM Strategies, Incentives, and Cross-Functional Alignment 1311 Audience members ask practical clarification questions regarding attribution, brand measurement, and buyer cycles. Sterling answers constructively with concrete examples.

Statements from this episode (17)

Assertion Supported
Divvy went from first institutional round to $2.5B exit in four years
“We went from our first institutional round of funding to getting acquired in, in about four years, right? In a two and a half billion dollar exit.”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 0:16
What-if
Divvy could have added billions to its $2.5B exit with earlier lessons
“If I could go back to that moment in, in 2018, with everything that, that we've learned along the way, we could have added more, we could have added a couple billion more dollars, I believe, to that eventual exit.”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 0:56
Disclosure
Divvy required all revenue hires to write reports on Extreme Ownership
“We had everybody who joined the revenue team read the book and write a book report because we believed That extreme ownership at the end of the day was what was going to separate us in many regards.”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 4:01
Disclosure
Divvy compensated marketing on closed-won revenue, not MQLs or SQLs
“Marketing, we didn't talk about MQLs or SQLs. We actually talked about closed one new dollars. That's how marketing Was measured. That's how they were promoted and compensated, bonus, all of those kinds of things.”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 8:37
Disclosure
Divvy tied sales compensation to customer implementation success, not just logos
“Sales. It wasn't just on new logos. It was based on what they did during their first 90 days of implementation.”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 8:51
Insight
Pushing GTM accountability one stage deeper aligns behavior and accelerates growth
“We would force, we would push everybody's accountability one step deeper in the funnel, because what does that do? Well, automatically, now that, that sales rep who has responsibility for what goes on when they're at the next stage of the funnel and implementa…”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 9:02
Disclosure
Divvy set board budget numbers with an 80% certainty threshold
“The budget number is what we would essentially present on to the board. This is the board number. This is the number that come hell or high water, we are not going to miss. And there is some conservatism baked into this number, ok? This is the number that give…”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 10:45
Disclosure
Divvy consistently beat financial expectations by landing between quota and stretch targets
“This framework was incredibly powerful for us because we got to beat and raise at a very high frequency. Most of the time, we would Push ourselves and come in between that quota and that goal number, and then we got to raise our expectations.”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 11:45
Assertion Not checkable as stated
Divvy raised annual revenue targets 12 times in a single year
“When we would focus on a four week interval, we had years where we got to raise our annual target 12 times. And that allowed us to grow much faster than if we had operated in any other way.”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 14:20
Insight
T3B3 feedback frameworks must be bilateral between managers and direct reports
“Now, there's a trick to T-three, B-three. You not only do it for your direct reports, you have your direct reports do it for you. So it's bilateral, ok?”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 17:15
Insight
Snow: Initiatives without an assigned name and number will never happen
“A phrase that we circulated all the time was if it doesn't have a name next to it, and it doesn't have a number, it's not going to happen. Just book it. Like, it will not happen. It is a pipe dream.”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 19:25
Insight
Snow: Teams should sell a manual version of a product before building it
“When you think you've got the idea for the product or the service, you first go out and you sell it. Put together some duct tape and bailing wire version of it. Most of the time it looks like a manual process or service, and you go out and you sell it. And you…”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 23:55
Insight
Operating on a monthly cadence gives startups 12 chances to beat targets
“If your business today runs on quarters, figure out how to run it in months. You give yourself 12 chances To beat and raise, you give yourself 12 chances to correct mistakes, you give yourself 12 chances to have a higher growth rate at the end of the year.”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 29:38
Insight
Startups missing targets must immediately shorten operational reporting to daily cadences
“If something is getting really hard, If you're behind, you need to shorten the cycle even more. So if you're forecasting and you're saying, Hey, I don't think we're going to get there in, in whatever time period you've chosen. We're not going to get there this…”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 29:58
Insight
Snow: Great marketers embrace revenue quotas while bad marketers flee them
“In my experience great marketers love that, and bad marketers run away from that very, very fast. Like, I talk about it a ton in the interview, like, hey, this is how we structure it, and you know, you're gonna be a demand gen person here, and like, this is ho…”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 36:52
Disclosure
Divvy measured brand marketing performance by total organic revenue
“Brand would have a number and their number was the organic number. Okay. So like I'm saying, okay, you want credit for basically everything. That's fine. The organic number, right? So everything we didn't use performance marketing dollars for that starts to th…”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 37:44
Insight
Snow: Shared revenue targets must take priority over channel lead attribution
“The first thing you have to do is to make that matter just a little bit less. Make it more about the overall goal that you're chasing together than about what portion of this is marketing source? What portion of this is coming from outbound? What portion of th…”
Sterling Snow Jul 5, 2023 ▶ 38:50
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