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“Micah shares, don't play business until you have to. Especially when you're quite young, when you're less than 20 people, ah, it's really hard to have, to do everything that bigger organizations can do. You're gonna hear a lot from a lot of great folks today w…”

“Now, it's all great to have, ah, you know, shared values, shared purpose, shared mission, but as your org gets bigger and bigger and bigger, it can start to feel a little more lonely, and so one of the things that Linz's team done is they've branded the suppor…”

“There was multiple folks that had over four engineering managers in one given year.”

“Also, we've largely done this without a sales organization, which also makes us somewhat unique.”

“Often if you over-index on a year or two from now, you'll find that the solutions to your problems Don't actually solve the problems you have today, and so by all means, think about what's coming next, but make sure to really understand the problems you're fac…”

“It can be tempting to want to throw more bodies at problems and say, ah, if we just had one more person, if we just had 10 more people, we might be able to solve this. But if you don't have a clear perspective of how they're going to help, you're going to end …”

“As your organization grows, and if it grows faster and faster, your org growth might outpace an individual's ability to grow. And that's okay. So it's important to make sure each of your early folks really understand that there is a path for them inside your c…”

“For a long time, we asked every single one of our employees, no matter what function you worked in, to do some support, and what this meant is that all of our folks really understood the product that we were building and what was special about it, and they als…”

“Steve shares, keep the values, but change the mechanics. Companies change constantly, whether it's your code base, your org chart, your systems and processes, your go-to-market motion, all these things are going to change and evolve over time. So your organiza…”

“We raised about a million in a seed round, but beyond that, we've scaled the company with cash flows and our balance sheet.”

“Some of those things that we thought through at 20 people have scaled with us to 300 to 500 and have ripple effects over where we've gone. Those sets of core values have really helped us be intentional about where we're taking the company. If you contrast the …”

“He built this system over four years ago, and today it, ah, works with 20,000 different Zapp templates. And it's largely that same MVP he built four years ago.”

“Best practices are going to get you the same outcomes as everyone else. The best companies are outliers, and they're outliers in one or two key dimensions.”

“So one of the things we've done over time is said, you know what, we're gonna put in infrastructure to make sure code review's happy against some of the riskiest changes, and then we find another path to production for other types of changes.”

“And what started as a thing that helped us go fast, quickly as the engineering org grows from eight to 16 to 32 to 64, now becomes the very thing that slows you down over time.”

“If your founding team is the only ones that are thinking about innovation, and they're now focused on scale, what you can find is that innovation starts to stagnate. So it's really important in your organizations to bring in other folks that are thinking about…”

“When you're in the high growth stage, solutions to org problems are gonna have around a six month shelf life. Don't be tempted to overthink that first version, and also don't be tricked into thinking that it's going to be one and done. Instead, build mechanism…”

“The great news with a lot of no-code solutions, things like Airtable, Webflow, even Zapier itself, allow you to build things not just quickly, but also with quality. And so it's easier than ever to build these MVPs and actually have them go the distance for yo…”

“Zapier, way from Zapier, Never believed in fundraising, and I think that's why he hit default alive with one and a half million. He's never had to raise money. He doesn't need to because he prints cash.”

“As best you can do not specialize early, like focusing on hiring top-down that can navigate challenges and not just fill a role. That's the key thing here.”

“Anybody introducing a human into a PLG motion, use the humans to learn. That's what I'll, like, that's what I'll leave you with is, like, wherever you inject a human in a PLG motion, PLG is the most efficient model. You actually aren't using humans in there, r…”

“If you look at our rubric, even as we're hiring for sales, It has a little bit of that support and customer success mentality behind it. Partially because the nature of our product and the PLG motion where like customers have started already experiencing the p…”

“Give folks the full product. Let them experience the whole thing instead of limiting your trials. That's what I'd always tell folks is don't limit your trials to some diluted version of your product. Cause then your customer is going to get a diluted experienc…”

“Really what the way I encourage folks to think about PLG and sales is you want to add human engagement and it shouldn't be segmented by stage of customer journey, but really the complexity of the problem to solve across the customer journey.”

“When I arrived here, we actually had two salespeople and one customer success person, but we were still trying to prove out that model. We were not ready to scale.”

“When you're under resourced, this happens internally at Zapier and it's happened virtually everywhere else I've been at. You try to find a temporary solution. Contractors, consultants, these band-aids for things that seemingly that you would describe as one of…”

“The recommendation in something we have been doing internally a little bit is oftentimes you could look at competitors or, and you look at things that work, you try to do the thing that they did that worked, but we try to reverse engineer competitors' failures…”

“Over the past few years, we've started to integrate a sales or human touch motion, and this really caters to these higher complexity problems and use cases to solve for businesses, which in turn introduces all these things, different stakeholders buying proces…”

“And so we have a whole automation system agent system that like takes all that stuff. It then generates a bunch of themes based on that and then generates reports based on those themes. Then the second thing we have built up is a chat bot around all that stuff…”

“I think a reason a lot of folks are taking this approach of inserting the human at the last mile is the more agentic these workflows, the more imperfect it is.”

“Nowadays, that person can go use a Lovable or a Replit or whatever and get started. And so it's increasing the market for all of the tools in the stack because the entry point is just so much simpler.”

“We run these hackathons usually every four to six months just to keep fresh with it. And that's really important because AI moves crazy fast. And so every time we do that, we see the internal adoption just go higher and higher as people start to figure out new…”

“Our sales folks touch probably less than one percent of our total customers. And it's not meaningfully infringing on their job. It's just helping them like touch more accounts that otherwise we never could have touched.”